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  1. Does not appear to be smoking any weed... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udlMSe5-zP8
  2. Indeed and we're doing exactly that. Radiant is still one of the fastest "level-creators" I'm personally aware of, once it's set up correctly. There are also a lot of other mappers out there who know how to use it and would love to get involved in a new project, so plenty of opportunity for recruitment. There's just nothing faster than dragging a brush and slapping textures on its faces. I have a workflow that mostly automates the process of exporting from Radiant(s) and into Blender, which I'd be happy to share privately. A custom OBJ importer and Python scripts that clean everything up and texture everything. The one thing anyone needs to be aware of is that you'd be exporting ASE/OBJ from Radiant, not the BSP/PROC files that carve and merge all geometry during compile. This has a lot of implications for all mappers to understand, especially however you'll end up portalising your worlds, but certainly not a deal-breaker. There are some fuzzy legal grey-areas about using BSP/PROC formats commercially, but everything else is fine. If you're going to use an engine that can make heavy use of vertex-buffer LOD stages, then check this out as something that can be automated for LOD sake:- http://www.violationentertainment.com/temp/VE_patchtess_190714.mp4
  3. If I really don't want to touch Blender?:- http://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/20008-brushwork-generators-mapgen/&do=findComment&comment=438388 I already agreed with you, batching and atlasing is important. Where I disagree is the implication that it's something that suddenly became an issue within this thread, because of this technique. You could still LOD these chunks of details like anything else, but it comes down to TDM not having a very good LOD implementation (from the HDD with limited stages VS from within vertex-buffer using more stages) and/or smooth distance-culling. You're actually pointing out issues with the engine itself rather than issues with any editing approaches or tricks. Takes much much longer, it's not very noob-friendly, and you end up with something that can't be edited in Radiant afterward, which is actually the whooole point of this (and my other terrain thread) in the first place. To do as much as possible in Radiant. Anyway, use it or don't, whatever, I just posted it here because somebody else might find it nifty. Sorry to be a nuisance. . . .
  4. But have you actually thought it through? Scatter _where_? What's the difference between exporting all the mapobjects after they've been placed in Radiant, and exporting large chunks of map (that won't be textured) into Blender, so you can see exactly where each object will be positioned in the map? Either way it would take the same amount of time, unless you're blindly littering objects on a flat surface. This is also something that should be done right at the final moment of the creation of a map, so you can always tweak these things right there in Radiant instead of having to go back to Blender and export everything over again. This is why I ask if you've actually thought this through or not. In my experience, this is easier to do in Radiant than in Blender, so a better approach is to merge and atlas everything after you have positioned them. This is mainly because texture features of a map can matter in terms of where small objects would be positioned, along with positions of other entities, and in Blender you'll just be seeing flat grey geometry everywhere and be at a disadvantage. Some folks are just more comfortable with Radiant than Blender anyway and don't wish to constantly jump back and forth between them. The other thing is, it would take longer to prep (import and fix material headers, etc) all your mapobjects in Blender, that you wish to scatter around - meanwhile they are already set and ready in Radiant. I also said in the first post this works with brushes and patches too, and other entities, it's not only concerning mapobjects. So the argument that it's somehow worse than any other approach has flopped. All this is doing is making an existing creation process quicker, it's not some bad voodoo that suddenly makes your triangles choke your GPU more. Once again - this is absolutely no different than any other occasion a mapper copy+pastes large amounts of mapobjects around manually. This is just quicker and simply just another technique I decided to try and share...
  5. Well that's true for any bunch of objects and in any real-time engine, regardless of how they're put in. If a mapper is put off using this technique by alarm bells about batches and drawcalls so instead places 50 mapobjects in, one at a time, it's not going to change anything except how long it took them to do it.
  6. There are a few reasons why this is different from SEED. You can control where you position objects exactly using CTRL+MMB during pasting, not just up to 25 you bring from the clipboard, but collections of objects. You can then adjust each one individually from within Radiant, as I was doing in the video, just because I accidentally placed objects in the same location. As far as I understand, SEED operates during the map compile process and each object can't be fine-tuned in Radiant. It's the same with the concept of bringing terrain in from Blender as individual brushes, so mappers have control over everything right there in Radiant.
  7. I probably haven't explained it clearly enough, so here's a video of what I'm talking about with this:- http://www.violationentertainment.com/temp/VE_Radiant&101_1907.mp4
  8. Thought I might mention a handy piece of software that I've started using to complement Radiant... It's called 101 Clips - https://101clips.com/freeclip.htm v22.10 - http://www.violationentertainment.com/files/software/101%20Clips%2022.10.zip It works with both (collections of) brushes, patches and mapobjects. Likely other entities too. It's pretty straight-forward to use but one thing I recommend is to go into 'Edit > Keyboard Shortcuts' and swap 'Paste' and 'PasteToCamera' entries, although you might prefer not to, I just find it less confusing that way. The main reason for this is to use in combination with CTRL+MMB in the orthographic view, usually Z, after getting the camera aligned with the surface you want to paste to. You can place the camera instantly and paste to that location, instead of pasting in 1 location and then manually moving the object around, it's much faster than that. You would also want to get a keyboard shortcut for "Floor Selection" in there to hit right after pasting, if the camera isn't perfectly aligned or where you're pasting isn't flat. The whole point is for decorating a lot of different details like trash, rubble, vegetation, etc, where you want to quickly cycle different objects and paste like crazy. One downside is that there is no quick preview, each entry shows up as "Version 3" in the list, but you can get used to recognising mapobject names and material headers in the preview that pops up. If you make copies carefully in a specific order, it's still very usable. On a side note - you might find it interesting to use this in combination with AutoHotkey and X-Mouse. If you have a 5-button mouse you'd be able to do stuff like automate the pasting/list-cycling/floor-drop process in 1 click. This would make the whole technique very rapid and spitfire your details. So yeah anyway, hope some of you find this handy too... Happy mappin'. ____________________________________________ (EDIT: Please be aware that because of the hackety Visual Basic involved, it does get 2 alerts on OPSWAT MetaDefender as a worm/backdoor. I believe it's a false positive and even why this software does work with Radiant while alternatives don't, but it's up to you if you want to take risks or not... Just saying, I do know.) . . .
  9. Beyond creepy... Also notice the reflection as they touch the mirror, there should be at least a few millimeters of glass there. If the reflections are flush together then it could likely be a two-way mirror. Darkening that room and shining a strong enough light through the mirror (up against it and fairly powerful) should make the opposite side visible.
  10. Oh, some interest? I should make a video, but will get around to that later. For now I'll try my best to talk through the steps. I'm exporting from 2.69 but whichever version supports the 'Quake MAP' exporter, should be all the same. _________________________________ --> On the right-hand tool panel of the 3D view, under 'Display', set the grid scale to 0.64 with subdivision of 8. --> Create a plane, go to 'Edit Mode' and 'Subdivide', then CTRL+T to triangulate. (instead of scaling your plane (before subdivide) use 'Dimensions' (under Transform) and set X and Y to "81.920"). --> Displace & Sculpt (etc) as desired... (keep in mind you can do these first steps in any software, so long as the grid is the same, which is very important). (above I used a heightmap and 'Displace' modifier, but only a little sculpting, but there are plenty of other ways to deform your mesh). (be sure to click 'Apply' on the modifier when you're happy with it so it actually takes). (stay within 4096 units from origin (=40.96) because 'Q3toD3' doesn't seem to like anything bigger than this (*needs more testing!)). (workaround is to just split your terrain into pieces and export them separately)... --> Edit Mode > select all > Edges > Edge Split. --> Select all faces in Edit Mode and 'Flip Direction'. --> Go to side/front view and 'Extrude Region' down. (you've essentially just turned your deformed plane into individual solid (8-poly) objects = brushes). --> Select all bottom vertices and scale 0 on Z axis. (S > Z > 0). (*make sure you're using grid snapping and all vertices below align with the above). --> Set grid scale to 'a decimal left' (=0.064). --> Snap all vertices to grid. (select all vertices > SHIFT+S > Selection to Grid). --> Tris to quads. (select all faces and ALT+J). --> Select all in Object Mode and CTRL+A to actualise. (Location\Rotation & Scale\Visual Transform). --> Select all in Object Mode and go to File > Export > Quake MAP (.map). (check 'Grid Snap' and click 'Export MAP'). (if all goes well, you now have a .MAP file with your brushes from Blender!) --> Use 'Q3toD3' to convert your MAP file into the Doom3 format. (http://www.violationentertainment.com/files/software/q3tod3+gui.zip). --> Open the MAP file in a text editor and change 'version 2' to 'version 3', remove worldspawn name and other comments. --> CTRL+H to replace " 0 0 0 with ", so the trailing 'tokens' on each brush are removed. --> Remove the last entity entries, so the file ends at the final brush and the bottom of the file ends with 3 }s. (3 closing curlies). _________________________________ Open the map in DarkRadiant and in the 3D view, CTRL+SHIFT to select a face below the surface, then while holding CTRL+SHIFT you can drag-click to texture all of these multiple faces with caulk. This could probably be done in Blender but I didn't try that because this works well enough, for the most part. This is not even really important, except to avoid confusion during editing. You can now select multiple brushes, press V and select multiple vertices, and (with care) adjust them around to deform your terrain. Note that texturing hasn't come into it yet because ideally once you're happy with the formation, you would export as ASE and bring it back into Blender to unwrap and vertex-paint etc. to polish it up for the final product. Here's an example of how I began to create "lips" that overlap each other and fold into themselves, to create features like cliff-faces and caves:- . . .
  11. ...and just incase anyone is wondering why this is a big deal:-
  12. So here we go, someone on the #etlegacy IRC channel was able to help me dig this up... Freehand Adaptive Terrain Editor:- http://www.violae.net/temp/FATE_0_13_Win32_setup.zip I read that it doesn't export, but after playing with it I found that indeed it does, it's just not in the menu. Go to 'Edit Mode' and 'Export', but just put in a name for the 'Export Map' field and omit the map type extension. It does indeed export brushes in a map file, which can be loaded into Q3Radiant, which can be converted to brushDef3 which can be loaded into DarkRadiant. I had some trouble controlling the deform widget on Win7, but it does work with WinXP. Whether it's the OS or some dependency or my particular setup or whatever, I have no idea. It does work, however. I'll have to try it again with compatibility mode. And yes, like the screenshot above, it can do concave shapes. The shot above was just pointing out that the widget itself should be more like a standard 3-axis graphic, but despite it pointing up you can indeed drag it on the XY axis, just make sure the base of the widget is highlighted, not the arrow. Anyway, I've been looking for a way to get terrain into Radiant as brushes, even though they would inevitably be exported again as mesh tiles. The reason is so that individual brushes can be tweaked right there in Radiant, instead of needing to go back to a heightmap or program and export again, or just trying to be content with placing other structures or mapobjects on the terrain as a static mesh that can't be edited on-the-spot. The alternative is the Quake map exporter for Blender, which does also work, and is far more powerful, but far more tricky to make work. In the long-run, I'd rather get that working perfectly than to stick with this, but I'm still happy this could be dug up...
  13. Thanks to ToKu over at Q3W forums who posted a 'stairwell generator' - That actually really did help a lot, because I threw the filename into Google and hoping to find some old lost FTP folders, and sure enough:- http://urtmaps.prkl.org/tools/ SurfaceGenerator is something that does pretty much what I was remembering. I read it even was based on the previous 'Mapgen' so I think it does everything. There are also a couple of terrain tools I was looking for, something called FATE. Sounds like it might be marginally better than EasyGen or GenSurf, but I'm not sure because I can't find it anywhere. (edit: a treasure-trove of Quake-mapping tools here:- https://www.quaddicted.com/files/tools/ ----------------------------- (edit: all I can find of FATE is this screenshot, but anyone who knows anything should instantly see why this tool would have been great to preserve! But I think it really is gone...)
  14. So you used the same HDD to format and reinstall Windows, or do you still have the drive with the borked MBR? This also happened to me and I had a lot of luck recovering files using this:- https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
  15. I agree completely, and I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what these tools could do... If I remember correctly, they could generate things like spiral staircases and corkscrew tunnels and funnels and other formations that would be very tricky to do manually. These are not "map generators", more like "brushwork generators". The focus is that it would spit out these formations created from individual brushes, not patches or models, so they can still be textured and edited in Radiant. Not to be 'brushed aside' as someone looking for a 1-click make-a-map-for-me solution.
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