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  1. After playing various Dark Mod FM’s, I become hooked to the game, like I was with Thief (and its FM’s). So, like I do to all games I love, I tried to find ways to improve it. Since my first contact with DM and after playing T1 and T2 with the fantastic “HD Mod”, it became apparent that graphically, TDM struck me strange. Of course, it is clearly a BIG improvement over T3 and it’s not worse then Thief 2014 -- if you remove all those post processing effects, the textures are actually very bad for today standards – but it could be a little bit better. So I started to change a texture here, a texture there, whenever I found a texture that could be improved. Initially, I made this for my own amusement, while i was playing, but as the changes increased, I started to think I it would only be fair to share it with the community. As a note, I really appreciate the amount of work done by the contributors to TDM. It’s amazing how an open source project of a game whose genre is unfortunately condemned to target a niche player base could attract so many talented people to work together and create what essentially is the Thief 4 we never had. So this is in no way a mean to disrespect the contributors and their work. What changed and how Currently, around 530 files were changed. The changes end up in one of the following categories: NOTE: “texture quality” noted below is subjective and represents only my point of view. Again, It is in no way a mean of disrespect for the original author and its work. The texture is good but is in a low resolution – upscale it using AI image enhancement methods. The texture is poor and low res, with poor AI upscale results – try to replace it using various free PBR or raw Image sources (1) or create my own. If necessary, adjust the image using (colors, saturation, contrast, …) The texture has a good resolution and its not quite good but can be improved – improve using gimp (ex: on textures with bur, use sharpen, noise reduction or/and other features) (2) The texture depicts an horrible stew – change it to a decent and delicious stew, because my Portuguese roots forced me to do it. Additionally, specular and normal maps were added to some textures. (1) Free textures and PBR sites already discussed on this forum (texturehaven.com, 3dtextures.me, cc0textures.com and so on). (2) Finding the right texture is not always easy. I always tried to follow the same “feel” and appearance of the original image, but i confess that this is not always the case. Again, very subjective. New version 2021.01.08 * Around 170Mb of textures processed Some tree barks enhanced Stucco change more enhancements on doors, paint paper, fire places, ground textures, curtains .. and much more Screenshots and Comparisons It’s obviously undoable to show the comparison for all changed textures, so keep in mind that the following screenshots are just a very small example of the whole project. Also, very important, keep in mind that there is so much you can do with screenshots and in game the differences are much more clear than what is shown below. Sir Talbot's Collateral https://imgsli.com/MTI2NDE https://imgsli.com/MTI2MzY https://imgsli.com/MTI2Mzc https://imgsli.com/MTI2Mzg https://imgsli.com/MTI2Mzk https://imgsli.com/MTI2NDA WS3: Cleighmoor https://imgsli.com/MTI1OTE WS1: In the North https://imgsli.com/MTI2MTY https://imgsli.com/MTI2MTc WS2: Home Again https://imgsli.com/MTI2MjM https://imgsli.com/MTI2MjQ https://imgsli.com/MTI2Mjc https://imgsli.com/MTI2Mjg https://imgsli.com/MTI2Mjk https://imgsli.com/MTI2MzE https://imgsli.com/MTI2MzM New (version 2021.01.08) Briarwood Manor https://imgsli.com/MzUwNDY https://imgsli.com/MzUwNDg https://imgsli.com/MzUwNTE https://imgsli.com/MzUwNjc The Builder's Influence https://imgsli.com/MzUxNjM https://imgsli.com/MzUxNjQ No honor among thieves: forest https://imgsli.com/MzU0ODE https://imgsli.com/MzU1NTQ https://imgsli.com/MzU1NTk How to install 1) download the pk4 file from here 2) drop it on your TDM game folder (where all the other pk4 files are) 3) Play! Uninstall Just remove z_TDM_HD.pk4 file from your TDM install folder. Disclaimer If you are a purist, please don’t use this texture mod. Don’t bash it for not being “exactly the same as the original ones but hires”. If you find some texture that is copyrighted, please let me know and i will replace it. Fell free to suggest changes, but please don't make requests. Understand that i am doing this while playing and if i start feeling that i'm working instead, i will probably start to loose my interest. PS: I really don't know if this is the right thread to make this post. Let me know if i need to change it to another thread.
  2. Is there something wrong with the forums lately, or is it my browser? I've been having trouble formatting posts, and just now I couldn't format anything at all.

    I'm using Vivaldi.

    Usually I have to: select text, click bold, nothing happens, select again, click bold, then it works. 

    Same for other stuff, like creating spoilers, bullet points, links. Nothing works the first time. 

    1. datiswous

      datiswous

      I have no problem. I use Firefox. @Zerg Rush also uses Vivaldi. Have you tried without extensions, or in another browser?

      (btw. bold, italic and underline have shortcut keys: Ctrl B, Ctrl I and Ctrl U, you could try that)

       

  3. I think I just saw a quote I once made for one of Peter_Spy's texture projects, in the mission "A Night in Altham".

    The quote ends with "He does watch thee and give thee ordeals of his tasks".

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    2. peter_spy

      peter_spy

      They have different art style, and typically they're using all 3 major texture slots (diffuse, normal specular, while most TDM assets use only diffuse and normal), and textures were fairly hi-res (1k-2k) in comparison to stock assets.

    3. The Black Arrow

      The Black Arrow

      Oh I see, I've always wondered if TDM would ever have a plan to redo or improve the current assets, though to be honest it has some "charm" to it by now...But damn, it's been more than 20 years now.

    4. peter_spy

      peter_spy

      Long time ago, I presented a POC of reworking the loot items first, but it was rejected by TDM team on grounds that "it would make original assets look bad". A total conversion project would be way too much work to do IMO, even for several people.

  4. I spent the morning aligning my windows inside and out with the wall brick textures, but after saving and dmap, it still looks off in-game. It's quite bizarre. I tried deleting the .cm and .proc, and running dmap again (several times) but it didn't help. I don't have any dmap errors either. Any ideas what is going on? additional info: rather than adjusting the textures I edited the brushes, grabbed all the relevant vertices and adjusted the height of the window recesses. On the outside of the house I moved the window facades. Everything is appears to be aligned perfectly in DR, but is way off when I run the game.
  5. Since Aluminum directed me here ( https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/9082-newbie-darkradiant-questions/page/437/#comment-475263 ) can we have unlimited renderer effects? Well, maybe not unlimited, by maybe 3-5? Thanks.

     

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    2. Nort

      Nort

      Since I wasn't the one mainly asking, I'll just cite you in the original thread instead.

    3. AluminumHaste

      AluminumHaste

      There already is a kind of sorting, sort nearest, sort decal, sort <n>. For things like windows and such, sort nearest should probably have the desirable affect, though looking through multiple translucent shaders might kill performance.

    4. Nort

      Nort

      Is having multiple render effects really killing performance that badly? I don't understand. You're saying that if I have two transparent objects side-by-side, then they'll just count as two render effects, but when combined, they somehow become something much more difficult to render?

      Never-the-less, unless we're talking some kind of infinite portal problem, why not let the mapper choose how much he wants to kill performance? Just warn him against putting too many effects close together.

  6. Woo!! 2.10 Beta "Release Candidate" ( 210-07 ) is out:

    https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21198-beta-testing-210/

    It wont be long now :) ...

  7. I don't think there's a link to thedarkmod.com on forums.thedarkmod.com ...

    1. datiswous

      datiswous

      Yeah and the wiki and moddb. It should have those links in the footer I think. Probably easy to add by an admin.

      Edit: And a link to the bugtracker. I'm always searching for a post in the forum that links to that because I can't remember the url.

    2. Petike the Taffer

      Petike the Taffer

      I drew attention to this several times in the last few years. No one payed it any attention, so I just gave up.

    3. duzenko

      duzenko

      Reluctance to improve the forums is matched by reluctance to allow more people to work on it. Talk about trust and power.

  8. Hey all, I just noticed on the TTLG forums that Xorax released a large (1600+) set of textures for public use. I browsed through them and they match well with TDM. While they don't have normal maps, I'd still recommend giving them a once-over. Here's the TTLG thread: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151606
  9. I have a map, with a stone texture. I want to replace it with a new texture I made. However, there's 4,430 faces with this texture. I can use the find and replace to swap the textures, however, now the scale is wrong. How can I select all faces with the same texture? EDIT: Solved, check solution on next post
  10. This issue has been occurring in the last few weeks, and my first thought was that it is due to a regression that happened during the code reorganisation and the necessary changes to GL context handling. In my Ubuntu 20.10 machine I walked back the git history up to the point of the DR 2.8.0 release, but as it turns out, the problem is happening there too. When switching between Media and Texture tabs, the GL widget is not refreshed, unless you resize the tabs using the splitter between cam and orthoview: So I launched my other VM running Ubuntu 19.10 and was rather surprised that this problem does not happen there, even with the latest git checkout: I'm not sure where this behaviour is coming from all of a sudden. While I can't rule out that DR is doing something wrong in terms of context handling, there sure seems to be a difference between the two Ubuntu 19/20 setups. Any suggestions on how to go ahead and find out where the problem is rooted? The one idea I have: Since Ubuntu 19 is using wxGTK 3.0.4 and Ubuntu 20 is using the latest wxGTK 3.0.5, I will try to compile the older wxWidgets 3.0.4 release from source and use that in the newer Ubuntu 20 version, to see if the problem goes away.
  11. EDIT: EVGA 980ti on latest drivers, if that matters. I've been plugging away at my cave map, but I keep running into issues so it's taking a long time. Now, the skybox isn't working. Basically the sky texture is just transparent. I fixed it by deleting the brushes, creating new ones and texturing just one face as sky. After DMAP that worked. So I then textured the other 3 sides and then it was broken again. Changing the other 3 sides back to regular textures didn't fix the broken sky rendering. Now, even deleting the skybox prefab, the offending textures/brushes etc, won't fix it. I created a test map, and copied and pasted the same brushes and prefab and it's also broken there. Deleting the prefab and readding it, and texturing new brushes with sky, won't work. In 2.08: In SVN: You can see the prefab is very close to the sky texture. I've also tried moving the skybox prefab outside the map and at various places, even to 0,0,0 but that didn't help. The skybox looks fine in game, I can noclip into it and see all the little details. I've attached the map file, you'll have to rename the file from maps.zip.txt to maps.zip to extract it. skytest.zip
  12. This is something I had in mind a while back. To me, both names and usage of those tabs is kind of overlapping and confusing, especially to newcomers. First off, the naming convention. Media tab lists all available material shaders (and not any other media, like sound shaders), while Textures tab is a list of material shaders currently used in the map. Not only the tab names are technically wrong, but also the functionalities could be merged into one tab, I think. If you ever worked in other engines, a typical content/material browser does load all materials used in current map, but it also has a folder structure list on the left hand side (this would be the equivalent of Media tab). Double clicking a package name loads the material and displays its preview tile in the pane on the right hand side. To achieve similar functionality, I imagine the Media and Textures tabs would have to be merged into one Materials tab. I only have doubts about having it as a embedded window in Regular or Regular Left window layout (i.e. under the perspective view and sharing its width lock with it). Having it as separate floating window, as with other inspectors, would probably work better. In general, this should speed up mappers work and make the use of materials more intuitive (I hope). Your thoughts? @greebo, @OrbWeaver are there technical blockers in terms of DR coding? Edit, a mock up:
  13. I was wondering if there's a special DarkRadiant technique/tool for adjusting a texture orientation by an edge. A level designer I'm working with made a demo video describing this: Basically, right now he is doing some calculator work to angle a texture along an edge -- is there a shortcut of some kind to do this? Thanks!
  14. Not so long ago I found what could make a pretty good profile picture and decided to try it out on these new forums. But I couldn't find a button anywhere that would let me change it. I asked on Discord and it seems Spooks also couldn't find anything anywhere. So I logged into an old alternative account and, lo and behold, that account has a button. This is on the first screen I get when I: 1) click on my account name in the top-right of the browser -> 2) click on 'profile'. Compared to my actual account: Are you also missing this button on your account? It'd be very much appreciated if that functionality could be restored to any of the affected accounts.
  15. Hello, I want to discuss DR's texture tool and the way Radiant handles texture mapping in this topic. The texture tool is a window (Ctrl+Alt+T) where you can fine tune how a given texture gets mapped on a brush's face. I have noticed that, oftentimes when selecting multiple sides of a brush, the unwrapped UV islands are placed way too far from each other. Not something you'd care about during regular mapping, but I think this is a problem in theory, which can become a problem in practice when exporting models from DR. This is actually my impetus for starting this thread, as I imported a DR model in Blender only to find its UV map being all over the place. Here is an example of what I consider problematic. You can see that the face I've selected, behind the Surface Inspector, is already in the negative quadrant of the UV coord grid. Yet the surface inspector shows both horiz. and vert. shift to be at 0. Moreover, if I start changing those values with the arrow keys, the shifts will go up to 255 and then wrap back to zero, while the UV map will continue to scroll through the UV grid infinitely, instead of looping back to where it was. Couple this with the arcane way in which the Paste Shader commands work, and you have situations where two brush faces might look aligned in 3D but have their UV maps be thousands of units apart in 2D. Is there an explanation for why this works the way it does? Any way to make it better? Obviously, I'm not asking for DR to magically clamp all UV maps to the 0-1 UV space or unwrap brushes' sides like a modelling app would. It does, however, seem weird why there'd no apparent anchor for mapping faces to the UV space and they keep straying from the origin constantly.
  16. Hi, I need to know what the code is to use Spoiler Tags. I am using my tablet and I don't have the options to use anything, like spoiler tags, quote tags, text changes etc. Thanks
  17. This just started today with my update of SVN to 15737/8388 followed by a rebuild. Some textures (not limited to the door texture shown) are painted black in-game. (Working fine prior to the latest update.) For textures on frobable items, normal highlighting appears when the item is frobbed. For textures on non-frobable items, the texture remains black regardless of distance from the object. Backing away to turn off highlighting paints the texture normally. Anyone else seeing this?
  18. Still spreading the word about TDM on forums to new peops... Funny to see people say "Awesome, I loved playing Thief back in the day!"

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    2. kano

      kano

      Yes it was in a discussion where someone was saying how unhappy they are with the way game companies grant themselves permission to do whatever they like to your PC and personal info today. I pointed out that giving up games completely is an unnecessarily overkill solution when there are free games like TDM to play.

    3. Epifire

      Epifire

      Honestly the mod/Indie genre is still really booming right now. And they aint got no reason to do shady invasive privacy bs.

    4. Petike the Taffer

      Petike the Taffer

      What Epifire said. :-)

    1. Tarhiel

      Tarhiel

      Awesome, congratulations!!! :o

    2. Bikerdude

      Bikerdude

      Yup, all the remianing bugs were ironed out, so it nigh on perfect now.

    3. AluminumHaste

      AluminumHaste

      version 2.1 is now uploaded to mirrors ready to download.

  19. @Springheel/Melan I have uploaded the pack to mega, could you guys when you get a minute have a look through and let me know which textures we can dump. - mega There are currently 83 unique textures in there, so Im hoping we can reduce that number. I can then make a start on getting them added to svn etc. ta.
  20. Hi guys, through the "cheats" topic I got the idea, that it would be quite useful, if there were tags for missions (the post was about removing the killing restriction in some missions to suit the prefered play style). I don't know how easy or difficult this is, but with them, it would be quite convenient to pick missions with playstyles, environment, etc one does want to use. This could also be expanded to other mission properties. I remember a discussion about climbable drains, handles on doors, that cannot be picked and other things the map author chooses for himself. That way these things would be clearer and as I said before, it is easier to choose missions with playstyles that suit oneself. What do think?
  21. can somebody fix the mainpage of our site? http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/19469-new-layout-error/

    1. nbohr1more
    2. Springheel

      Springheel

      It's under construction at the moment.

       

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