So, what are you working on right now?

[Bikerdude]

Man these are some sexy looking models!

[Capela]

What can one say.....you are really a true artist.

[Ralle321]

Amazing models Epifire!

 

To get my hands dirty with Substance Painter i'm creating a victorian period inspired radiator.

 

I used Blender for modeling and in the picture below you can see the normal mapped lowpoly sitting at 2126 tris inside SP.

Need to watch the Painter tutorial videos next and then i'll be off to texturing.

[Springheel]

Good model, but a little anachronistic for our setting.

[Sotha]

Good model, but a little anachronistic for our setting.

 

Didn't they have radiators in the Victorian era? I would certainly expect to see such a thing in an expensive manor with electric lights.

 

Nice looking model.

[Goldwell]

They are from the victorian era and they look like this

 

 

Which is very close to the model, as long as it's textured correctly I could see it fitting in with everything else.

[Ralle321]

Yes, radiators were introduced around 1880, see here for additional references: Link

 

I have spotted them in Thief-fms and since they were using steam or hot water, i assumed they would also fit in the steampunk part of the darkmod for use in homes of the wealthy.

Next time i'm gonna ask before to be sure.

[Springheel]

Yes, radiators were introduced around 1880

 

 

Yes, 1880 is a little late for our setting, especially when it's something that still in modern use.

 

That's later than vaccuums, typewriters and coal-powered motorcycles.

[Melan]

So much for my long-awaited dodgem-themed level.

[Bikerdude]

coal-powered motorcycles.

hmmm, sound like something i should build.. heh

[VanishedOne]

Nobody complained when I posted this, presumably because it doesn't particularly look like a real-world heating system (and in this screenshot you can't really see the pipes behind the grille):

 

[Springheel]

There's nothing wrong with some kind of steam-powered heating system, but it shouldn't look like the same radiator you could find in houses today.

[Aosys]

Actually, Wikipedia seems to think radiators originated in 1855, and in the US in the 1860's. I don't know if that's still too late for TDM's setting, but given we have both steam and electricity, I feel it wouldn't be too out of place in the home of some hyper-rich noble with ties to the Inventor's Guild, but that's just my two cents. Still, I understand how it might be out of place.

 

Nice work on the model, though!

[Springheel]

Anything invented in the 1800s has to be handled carefully, though the actual date of invention is less important than how it looks (top hats are older than 1800 but wouldn't fit our setting either).

 

The general rule is that you don't want things that look distinctively modern, but there's nothing wrong with making modern-ish things that look like they're made of steampunk parts.

[MirceaKitsune]

Yes, 1880 is a little late for our setting, especially when it's something that still in modern use.

 

That's later than vaccuums, typewriters and coal-powered motorcycles.

 

Coal powered motorcycles existed in real life?! Who would have thought TDM would teach me things I never knew about history.

[Goldwell]

For my maps I don't mind breaking the barrier a little bit and I wouldn't see a problem with a heater provided it had the right textures of course.

 

I know in a lot of Thief2 FM's they have very modern items like modern day toilets and so on however I find it usually breaks immersion a bit too much and sticks out like nuts on a bull.

 

But a little immersion breaking wouldn't hurt and I don't really see those heaters being out of place myself. What sort of heaters did you have in mind Springheel?

[Aosys]

Perhaps something like a warm air stove would be more appropriate?

 

http://www.hevac-heritage.org/victorian_engineers/arnott/Arnott%20Stove%201.jpg

 

http://www.hevac-heritage.org/equipment/warm_air_stoves/stove_10.jpg

 

Failing that, the Romans actually had central heating with hypocausts, which are pretty neat.

[Springheel]

But a little immersion breaking wouldn't hurt

 

 

Different people are bothered by it to differing degrees. Some people wouldn't be bothered by modern toilets. I personally found the typewriters and desk fans in Thief 4 extremely damaging to my suspension of disbelief.

 

 

What sort of heaters did you have in mind Springheel?

I don't quite understand the question. I didn't have any heaters in mind...?

[Goldwell]

I don't quite understand the question. I didn't have any heaters in mind...?

Sorry I meant did you have a better alternative in mind with the heaters or would you just be flat out opposed to them bar the steampunk creations you mentioned in a previous post.

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[Deadlove]

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[Obsttorte]

Good model, but a little anachronistic for our setting.

Isn't anachronismn what steampunk is all about T2 had mechs and security cameras, so ...

[Springheel]

Isn't anachronismn what steampunk is all about T2 had mechs and security cameras, so ...

 

 

Anachronistic, yes. Modern, no.

 

The more modern the technology is, the more effort should be put into making it look 'old fashioned'. While the steambeasts of the Inventor's Guild are clearly sophisticated robots, making them appear to be made of old fashioned gears, boilers and clockwork machinery allows them to fit into the steampunk setting. A robot that *looked* sophisticated--highly polished, no obvious working parts--would not. A normal gage might look too modern, but if it used an old-fashioned clock-hand for a needle and roman numerals, suddenly it seems to fit the setting.

 

[Ralle321]

Thanks for the clarification Springheel.

 

I understand the radiator is clashing with the setting, so i leave it out.

Instead you guys can still take a look at the finished model on sketchfab: https://skfb.ly/KYyC

[Deadlove]

"Glenham Stronghold"

Edited March 3, 2016 by Deadlove