RPGista's mapping and modeling thread

[RPGista]

Okay my boys, time to dig out the old thread and share some of the models I had lying around, thought I should get them out finally.

Im releasing the medical tools I started modeling a while ago. Its a varied set:

 

4 kinds of needles;

2 operating hooks;

1 (ice)pick;

1 saw;

2 scalpels;

3 scissors.

 

Unfortunately, I wasnt able to make them moveable entities. They all possess a collision box, however, so it should be simple enough, I just cant get it to work for some reason, something is missing in my defs or pathing and I cant really remember how to set it up correctly. So Im only releasing the fixed models version. They are all ready for being included in maps.

 

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Al4XNpzYMsVva9OLawvtG0lAWsE

 

 

 

 

Edited February 19, 2018 by RPGista

[Springheel]

Looks like beautiful work!

[NeonsStyle]

Ooo those med tools are beautiful

Edited May 20, 2017 by NeonsStyle

[demagogue]

They look great!

A mapper can set any model up as a moveable, so don't worry about that.

[RPGista]

Thanks guys! And demagogue, thats great!

[RPGista]

I wanted to create some models that go a bit more in depth into the pagan culture and heritage. I thought about working on things that could make up for sacred shrines, scenes you would find in a clearing inside an old forest, or deep inside pagan country. A place marking where an ancient artifact was buried, or where you need to leave that amulet and summon the earth spirits, stuff like that. Im starting with a menir, this one has an engraving on it, just to make it extra clear this is something man made, but I should also provide one or two more variations with just the naked stone and slightly different texturing, if you want to make a circle, or group them. Im working on a dolmen as well. Things you can use to create sort of blessed, cerimonial grounds.

 

 

 

 

 

[RPGista]

 

Ok, so I tweaked the menir a bit, I thought I should just realease it and work on others later. Its 50% taller now, I thought it needed to be a bit more monumental. The texture is slightly darker. It has a low poly shadow mesh in there.

 

If the builders get a hold of this thing they will probably just take it down or carve a hammer on it and call it theirs from then on.

 

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Al4XNpzYMsVvb_9QYeKX43jkh_c

 

PS: I might darken the specular a little more and re-upload the model. But anyone can change the textures, its inside the the file, in the props folder. Just edit the tga images and the model will be refreshed next time you play the map.

Edited February 28, 2018 by RPGista

[Obsttorte]

Nice work.

If the builders get a hold of this thing they will probably just take it down or carve a hammer on it and call it theirs from then on.

They would probably just crush it. Makes me think that it would be nice to have broken versions of those (if it isn't too much work).

[RPGista]

Thanks my friend. Actually thats a pretty good idea, Ive been meaning to learn arcturus' tutorial on fracturing models, would be a good excuse to finally do it. Will work on it.

[HMart]

Okay my boys, time to dig out the old thread and share some of the models I had lying around, thought I should get them out finally.

Im releasing the medical tools I started modeling a while ago. Its a varied set:

 

4 kinds of needles;

2 operating hooks;

1 (ice)pick;

1 saw;

2 scalpels;

3 scissors.

 

Unfortunately, I wasnt able to make them moveable entities. They all possess a collision box, however, so it should be simple enough, I just cant get it to work for some reason, something is missing in my defs or pathing and I cant really remember how to set it up correctly. So Im only releasing the fixed models version. They are all ready for being included in maps.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/file/2o55we

 

testingmap_2017-05-19_20.55.34.jpg

 

testingmap_2017-05-19_20.56.19.jpg

 

testingmap_2017-05-19_20.56.26.jpg

 

testingmap_2017-05-19_20.58.11.jpg

 

 

They look very nice indeed.

 

About movables, are you sure the def file is well formatted? Does the dynamic physics hull has less then 16 polys? Is a requirement, btw imo is a really bad limitation from the physics engine.

 

[RPGista]

Thanks man. As for the moveables, I simply wasnt getting them to appear on DR, so there was something broken with my setup. I used the warhammer model I had done before as reference, but something was off, and I had no patience to look into it any further. Demagogue reminded me a mapper can turn any model into a moveable entity inside DR though, so that takes care of it (I did that myself in my own mission with a wood box, many moons ago). They do have collision boxes, simple 6 sided boxes, so it isnt that.

Edited June 14, 2017 by RPGista

[NeonsStyle]

Oooo really feeling those stones. I can just see a clearing through the trees at night, mushroom lights, with some fireflies flying around, lots of birds and

forest sounds.

[Bikerdude]

About movables, are you sure the def file is well formatted? Does the dynamic physics hull has less then 16 polys? Is a requirement, btw imo is a really bad limitation from the physics engine.

@The team, is there any reason why these arent part of the core mod...?

[Springheel]

They are.

[Bikerdude]

They are.

2.05 or to be released in 2.06?

[RPGista]

They are.

Yay!

 

PS: Any adjustments you guys feel is needed, just let me know.

Edited June 16, 2017 by RPGista

[Springheel]

2.05 or to be released in 2.06?

 

The models were only released a month ago.

[HMart]

Thanks man. As for the moveables, I simply wasnt getting them to appear on DR, so there was something broken with my setup. I used the warhammer model I had done before as reference, but something was off, and I had no patience to look into it any further. Demagogue reminded me a mapper can turn any model into a moveable entity inside DR though, so that takes care of it (I did that myself in my own mission with a wood box, many moons ago). They do have collision boxes, simple 6 sided boxes, so it isnt that.

 

I never made a movable using DR I did it on Modo (my 3D tool of choice), bellow is what i did that worked, I'm sure being a 3D modeler your self (and a very good one) you know all of this but perhaps you forgot something.

 

MODO side:

 

1 - Made a collision hull around the object, trying to be as faithful to the object shape the most i could, without going above 16 triangles (you can go above, i went as far as 24 triangles but it will crash the game eventually, afaik idsoftware never went above 16 triangles on all its movables collision hulls).

 

2 - assign the green collision material to this collision hull.

 

3 - Make sure the collision hull (shadow mesh, etc) makes part of the original model layer (idtech 4 requires the model to be a single layer object)

 

5 - triangulate the model, make sure the object transforms/origin is at 0 0 0 and export to the engine ( in my case Modo only supports .lwo ).

 

idTech 4 side:

 

write a entityDef something like the one bellow, put it into a map and enjoy.

entityDef moveable_furniture_chair_thin01 {
	"inherit"					"moveable_base_fixed"
	"model"						"models/furniture/furniture_chair_thin01.lwo"
	"density"					"0.01"
	"friction"					"0.2"
	"bouncyness"				        "0.3"
}

And that is that is not complicated at all.

Edited June 17, 2017 by HMart

[RPGista]

Yeah, I remember doing something like that, was even trying to bring in stuff from other moveables like the saw and kitchen stuff (impact sound and the like)... Dont worry my friend, its just my slow, weary mind, its not that the process is that difficult or anything. I would though cynically invite you to team up with me and writte those defs if you want, the files are just there for you to grab and re-release, if you find the time.

 

Right now Im working on that dolmen model, and some more forest assets for the mod.

Edited June 17, 2017 by RPGista

[Bikerdude]

The models were only released a month ago.

I could have worn they were made last year, 2.06 it is then

[RPGista]

So work continues on those forest assets and the stone age dolmen. But Im going to feature them on a new concept map Im working on, so they should still take a while. It started as a scene I wanted to create so as to show them off in a cool environment, and the idea grew and grew. Its getting smaller and smaller again, because of the lack of time and the amount of effort.

 

Parallel to it, I was looking into learning more about animation. As in a couple of times before, I tried to see if I could change the study material a little bit so I could come up with something useful for us by the end of it. I was looking into a fixed animated prop first, but I couldnt really find anything that I felt like doing/was worth the effort. So I (unwisely) jumped straight to character animation, which I had flirted with at the time TDM needed a new zombie model (greebo beat me to it). So, I thought "you know what would be cool? A simple, robotic character that wont be out of my reach to animate". Because of all the potential for dark sciences and unholy stuff going on in the game, I felt that a Golem would fit in pretty well in the setting. Something of a horror monster, unstoppable killing machine the player simply cant beat in any way other than to avoid. Im not a fan of over the top stone golems you see in most games, those hulking figures. I prefered a minimalistic aproach and went for a realistic, classically inspired statue, that would be a normal piece of art until someone decided to give it magical life. Alternatively, it could be a dormant magical protector of something sacred and valuable, inside a forgotten tomb somewhere, like in many games and stories. It was based on a 3D scanned statue of Mars (who could be more appropriate?).

 

It was supposed to be a surprise, I would just release the full character. But since Im hitting tons of roadblocks, I thought I should simply post the progress here and let those into animation and character AI know that Im working on this and will probably need a lot of help getting this thing in TDM (damn you tdm, stealing my free time).

 

The ASE is in the game but the texture sucks, so Im posting blender viewport shots.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Right now Im working on the animations, trying to block them. Since this guy is pure stone, there shouldnt be any ragdoll stuff. He's big, so no point trying to use arcturus rig (wouldnt know where to begin anyway, its really complex). Hopefully the rigify rig will be usable in the game, its the one Im learning to use. Fingers crossed.

 

 

 

 

[Springheel]

Cool idea! We are definitely lacking good statues, so even the unanimated model would be useful. If you can turn it into a working character, so much the better!

[RPGista]

Hey guys, I was able to convert this cool lion statue model for TDM. Im not sure I got the textures right, I had to do a bit of editting on the uvs and a bit of texture painting and come up with some simple normals and speculars. I tested it in a map and it looks good enough I guess, still a bit plasticy, maybe the speculars should be toned down even more, but anyone can go into the file and edit the pictures in gimp and the model will be updated next time you play the map. I'll look at it later and will update the link in case I make more adjustments. Its about 4800 tris, about 900 tris for the shadow mesh plus 160 for the base (theres a no base version as well). If anyone can test it in game, let me know. Unfortunately there are some small UV sort of bleeding issues on the very botton of the meshes, but its hardly noticeable from a normal walking distance.

Credit goes to farly, from blendswap, for the model "Lion", released under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0. Downloaded from http://www.blendswap.com/blends/view/70444. (I should go there and send him a thanks). Anyway, have fun.

 

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Al4XNpzYMsVvbvzLXioB5-9cXu4

Edited February 25, 2018 by RPGista

[Bikerdude]

Looks fantastic!

[Amadeus]

Nice looking statue!

 

@RPGista So I was scrolling through some of the other stuff on this thread and was wondering if you could reupload your pagan shrine model (as the link is dead). I'd love to take a look at it and maybe use it for my (very slow going) WIP