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#5826 Tels

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 03:39 AM

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Thanks man, will do!

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Took about 2 hours for DR to convert it into 671mb .ase and looked like it was either gonna take as long just to inspect it or it had crashed while trying, so I shut it down. :P


Wow :o

It's probably better to export it bit by bit, for instance each arch or column.
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#5827 Kvorning

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 03:20 PM

It's already built in modules and no need to do anything as the map isn't going anywhere at the moment. It's a bother to concern myself with way down the line thankfully.^^

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 10:54 PM

Perhaps look into tessalation for the patches, that should bring the triangle count way down. Otherwise, fantastic work. Love the moonlight on the church's windows.

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 02:20 PM

Thanks! Specific divisions are already set for the parts that don't require as much detail (Mostly up high where players don't look that much), and the tri count is actually pretty suitable as a result :)

#5830 Obsttorte

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 12:33 PM

Started this a couple of days ago. Let's see where it takes me :)

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#5831 Obsttorte

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 04:03 PM

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I'm concluding my todays mapping work with some in game screenies. It is at a very rough state yet, but I hope you like it anyways.

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#5832 Goldwell

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 05:49 PM

@Obs is this for the Halloween contest? or just so?

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 05:50 PM

And some more shots from my current wip -

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#5834 Goldwell

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 06:18 PM

@Biker man why aren't you working at a game studio?

Your work is always so damn detailed!

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 12:24 AM

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Woow! It looks beauty!

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 02:42 AM

I really hope those textures end up into the core mod.

Gorgeous work!
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#5837 Obsttorte

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 03:32 AM

@Obs is this for the Halloween contest? or just so?

It's just so.

As I was unemployed for quite a while I've lost motivation to map in the last months. It's strange that if you have plenty of free time your interest in doing something decreases.

However, as I have a job now I feel that my motivation and inspiration rises again, and I always wanted to create a street mission, especially after playing the last Thief. But as it is going to be pretty large I doubt I can finish it before Christmas.

Maybe it will become a little present to the community than :)

I really hope those textures end up into the core mod.

Gorgeous work!

+1. Those textures look awesome.

@Biker man why aren't you working at a game studio?

Your work is always so damn detailed!

I guess if he would do so he would not have much interest in doing this stuff in his free time, too. ;) It's better for us if everything stays as it is now. :)
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#5838 Bikerdude

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 04:22 AM

I really hope those textures end up into the core mod.

Already done.

Woow! It looks beauty!

Ta.

Your work is always so damn detailed!

its just practise, eventually you will be cranking out nice detailed work etc.

I guess if he would do so he would not have much interest in doing this stuff in his free time, too. It's better for us if everything stays as it is now.

Yep, not going anywhere - the games industry is even more ruthless than my current career.

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 07:16 AM

My opinion is the gaming industry these days doesn't even deserve our talent. They have a reputation for treating devs like crap, and you have to compromise your standards anyway. I mean it's cool if someone is happy making a life out of it and finds a good studio to work for. I don't criticize people for doing what they love for a living. But I sometimes feel we can make a better contribution to the gaming scene staying homebrew.

Edit: That said, the one thing from a professional scene I can appreciate is those lush assets they get to work with. T4 had its issues, but the assets and art direction were still top notch, and Dishonored of course.
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Posted 13 September 2014 - 07:53 AM

Its always refreshing to do what you want instead of what you're told regardless of pay.

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 04:50 PM

It's not bad per definition if there is someone giving you a red line to follow. The problem is that it seems that publishers tend to follow polls containing teenage opinions or trying to reproduce things other publishers have been successful with instead of trusting in the creativity and experience of their developers.

I will and I cannot believe that most developers are only aiming for creating games that sells well. And if publishers would accept this and give their devs more freedom, I think it would help the gaming industry alot.

Btw.: Thief 4 and Dishonored are quite good games. And although Thief 4 has its downsides, I never regret that I've paid 50 Euro for it. Compared to the bullshit that gets released as "AAA games" nowadays, this is still one of the few worth the money, and it is a good inspiration for any TDM mapper.

Dishonored is a great game. The only downside is that you get far too much equipment. But beneath that, it's one of the best games I've played in the last years. I hope they make a second part.
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Posted 14 September 2014 - 05:19 AM

Dishonored is fucking amazing. If you haven't played it, you really should. The pace can be a lot faster if you wish it to be, because of blink. The Daud DLCs (Knife of Dunwall and Brigmore Witches) are great as well. If you get the base game, get those as well. And probably Dunwall trial's Thief challenge would be good fun for most as well. I like Bonfires a whole lot in that DLC.
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Posted 14 September 2014 - 05:53 AM

Im looking forward to Dishonoured 2.

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 09:44 PM

Btw it should be noted, that there's no external models used, it's all primitive patches and brushes, made into func_statics. The result is a higher load time, but the performance is excellent. The downside to this, is any change to an FS requires me to replace every similar FS, rather than just "reimport object". I've also been very careful about having verts line up, to avoid shimmering on surfaces, which seems to also have eased the strain on the engine as well.

That last part might be wishful thinking, but worth pursuing when building for the sake of good order and compatibility.


That is impressive work indeed, imo is among the best i've seen from the TDM mission makers, sad that you went to other engine, is it UE4 or Unity by chance? Btw don't know if this is something you already know but you should never do a single model for an entire level or room, that just kills the performance on any engine, because it prevents from culling systems to hide parts of it, if you want something like that catedrale on a game, then it should be cut in small manageable pieces and then reassembled on the game editor, that was what id did for some of their levels btw.
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Posted 20 September 2014 - 03:04 AM

...The Daud DLCs (Knife of Dunwall and Brigmore Witches) are great as well. If you get the base game, get those as well. And probably Dunwall trial's Thief challenge would be good fun for most as well. I like Bonfires a whole lot in that DLC.


A bit OT but was just curious how long each of these DLC is for a playthrough (in hours)?

#5846 skacky

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 03:40 AM

Took me about 3 hours each.

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 03:40 AM

They're 3 full levels each. How long they take depends on your playstyle.
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Posted 20 September 2014 - 04:07 AM

They're 3 full levels each. How long they take depends on your playstyle.


Sure. When someone like skacky says, "3 hours each", I generally double that because I like to walk around, explore, general gazing and dicking around. Just curious to get a guage on price/performance ratio.

@skacky, Thanks!

#5849 Kvorning

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 03:09 PM

@Hmart

Thanks man, very kind of you to say. UE4 has caught my attention. The new Unity is very impressive and I think there's already a few WIPs on it with early access (The Forest?), but everything about Unreal appeals to me, especially their distribution strategy, which is 20$ per month for a license and 5% of your net gain if ship a title.

The cathedral is built in modules and if you look closely at the wire frame bit, you can probably see where they meet. Each section is 6-8 unique models. In the video no optimization has been done in regard to visportals, though caulk brushes cut each section for a portal. Most performance vs visuals past this point, would probably come from good static lightning, particle effects and simple collision. I could go the extra mile and export them and make LOD versions, but it's currently not a concern. :P

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 09:10 PM

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So still plugging away, this time in making one of the two planned manor wings. I'm still new to building in the manor style, and I've tried to take into account everyone's feedback from my last batch of screenshots, so any more input/crits you guys can think of are greatly appreciated!

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