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#7901 Boiler's_hiss

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 09:53 AM

Both missions will be arriving at the same time bundled in a 2 mission mini-campaign.

Does it mean, that player will retain loot from the first mission to spend it during the second as well?



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Posted 07 February 2019 - 10:42 AM

Does it mean, that player will retain loot from the first mission to spend it during the second as well?

 

I have not looked into that mechanic yet, but I am planning some things to carry over from the first mission to the next.


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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:07 AM

 

I have not looked into that mechanic yet, but I am planning some things to carry over from the first mission to the next.

 

http://wiki.thedarkm...Inventory_Items

 

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:15 AM

 

http://wiki.thedarkm...Inventory_Items

 

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:)

 

Thank you for that! I had read through that before, however it says that the loot carries over for the menu shop of the next mission. But my missions have an ingame shop the player visits rather than the traditional system.

 

But one problem there is that if the loot carries over from the first mission, the second mission can't really have a loot objective as it might be reached by the time the player starts the mission.

 

Unless I somehow turn the loot the player gets from mission 1 into an item called "fence credit" or something in mission 2, and then I could edit the ingame shop script so that it uses the fence credits before it burns into the players loot.

 

It sounds like a lot of messing around though, and i'm not sure if that setup is even possible.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 04:40 AM

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You can now slide down climbable surfaces. :-) 

This video demonstrates the following things in successive order:
1) The new slide is performed by holding crouch and looking at the climbable surface
2) If you don't look at the climbable surface when holding crouch, you will simply detach and fall.
3) The ladder jumping bug, as reported in issue #4989.
4) Howto fall to your death when sliding and the climbable surface ends. :-)



If there are any sound content creators among you, please consider adding material dependent slide sounds, as tracked under issue #4991.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 10:14 AM

That’s fantastic!

Btw how is that setup where you got onto the ladder so easily? A frequent problem I have is the player seems to overshoot my ladders easily and then fall to their death.
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#7907 Amadeus

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 10:32 AM

A frequent problem I have is the player seems to overshoot my ladders easily and then fall to their death. 

 

This is me in just about every video game with a ladder. Needless to say, I don't go on many ladders in real life.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 12:18 PM

I think there is nothing special about how I placed the ladders. The secret is to approach the ladder backwards so that you face the ladder when going down, just as you would in real life. With this trick, you really cannot fall down, at least I never managed to. ^^
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 02:47 PM

That’s fantastic!

Btw how is that setup where you got onto the ladder so easily? A frequent problem I have is the player seems to overshoot my ladders easily and then fall to their death.

 
Hehehe :D Some games solve that by putting special rails so players don't fall down. 
 

I think there is nothing special about how I placed the ladders. The secret is to approach the ladder backwards so that you face the ladder when going down, just as you would in real life. With this trick, you really cannot fall down, at least I never managed to. ^^

 
Yes that is one way, another is to remove control from the player and play a "get on stair" animation, used on FEAR, another that Penumbra uses for example, is to pull the player into position when he clicks/frobs the ladder.   What to use depends on the gameplay and game.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 06:37 PM

I tend to dislike having control taken away from me. Imagine you run from a guard and want to jump down a ledge. That ledge has a ladder however, so you're sucked into the climbing animation. Sucks!

We could make it a little bit clearer to players, though, that approaching a ladder backwards is the failsafe way to do it.
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 07:31 PM

The correct way to approach ladders should be explained in the training mission. The mechanic itself is fine as it is now though. Some years ago i sometimes struggled to get on and off ladders. But in the last few versions it just works as expected.



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Posted 14 February 2019 - 10:47 AM

current map am woking on has a lot of pipes you can climb up/down but testing goes, oops used wrong pipe and fell to my death.

 

in finished map there will be zombies wandering around on the ground, so climbing pipes will be the only way to bypass them


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Posted 15 February 2019 - 05:57 AM

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Added some temporary lights to FM that is just entering beta - I guess there is not much to show if all lights are off in your mission...

 

http://forums.thedar...a-beta-testing/

 

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Posted 15 February 2019 - 12:12 PM

Nice.


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Posted 15 February 2019 - 12:36 PM

Added some temporary lights to FM that is just entering beta - I guess there is not much to show if all lights are off in your mission...

 

http://forums.thedar...a-beta-testing/

 

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Those are fantastic looking scenes!

 

Especially that last one  :wub:


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Posted 14 March 2019 - 12:24 PM

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Working on a window for Builder environment. Not sure what to put in the arch section. I already have hammer and gear symbols on wall panels, but it seems appropriate here as well.

 

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#7917 VanishedOne

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 01:09 PM

An anvil, maybe? Or figures implied to be saints, angels, etc. as in textures/darkmod/window/ornate/stainglass_saint_*


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Posted 14 March 2019 - 05:39 PM

Working on a window for Builder environment. Not sure what to put in the arch section. I already have hammer and gear symbols on wall panels, but it seems appropriate here as well.

 

You can always subdivide. It seems tall cathedral windows don't normally have big, unsegmented panes up top.

 

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 07:31 PM

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I think my skybox needs more consistently thick-looking particle fog to go with the middleground, but the city lights have come out nicely. They're actually particles too, so the player will occasionally notice some randomly fading in/out; perf cost is probably similar to a weather patch:

 

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Since volumetric lights are still being worked on, for this background scene with ambient characters I tried faking it with fog. In conclusion: faking it with patches is a lot more versatile and less finnicky. Still, behold what might be the only projected foglight ever to find a use:

 

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 10:53 AM

Loving that skybox and the way it works with the fog, quite an achievement. That first shot in particular is very impressive. Great use of lighting and architecture. 


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Posted 17 March 2019 - 01:23 AM

Vanished that's some of the best lighting direction for a street view I've seen in a long time. It's a very simple kind of color scheme that still pulls off loads of visual interest throughout. However the interior shots feel a bit stark in the comparison when sat side by side. I think it's mainly to do with the single lighting color giving a very even look. Whereas your exterior relies on kind of a three tone (very D1 Lady Boyle streets vibe) and I think your interiors could pop just the same with a similar treatment.

 

Certainly this comes down to whatever your artistic approach decides but I really like what you've got going in either case.  ;)


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Posted 17 March 2019 - 11:29 AM

Cheers. I'm not sure 'stark' isn't what I want here: those are rooms for very senior clergy, where you get to live if you're saintly good at climbing hierarchies, so I tried to make them look opulent yet at the same time keep a touch of strict religious regimen. The modular pieces are mainly from the mansion interior set (there's some church interior on the walls with windows, mostly unseen in these shots), and I was worried it could easily end up looking like a lavish nobleman's suite with the banners changed.

 

I do still need to add a touch of ambient light around the windows though. Also the oil lamp in the foreground of the last shot has a rather strong white glass part against the dark background (I think it's one of Dragofer's light assets, and probably stands out here because I'm not using them consistently as he might); I've since added a particle glow that softens the effect a bit.


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Posted 20 March 2019 - 04:30 PM

The thing you might want to consider is to give your lights a wider range. The darkness on the interiors looks almost oily, the flames can barely penetrate it. Some of the maps here do suffer from this "spotlight" heavy illumination setup. If you light up a torch inside a room, the whole place is gonna get lit up, even if its more subtle than the powerful electric lights we are used to. So I would experiment with bigger radius for the lights. It also increases the challege, as poorly lit places makes it a breeze for players to cross, and isnt very challenging.


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Posted 21 March 2019 - 04:01 AM

Delete this post please. My mistake.


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Posted 25 March 2019 - 06:56 PM

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