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#1 oDDity

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Posted 23 January 2005 - 05:36 PM

From the looks of it, this game is going to be every bit as gorgeous for 2006 as the previous incarnation was for 2002.
Morrowind was almost a brilliant game, but the poor AI and questing turned it into a boring joke.
Let's hope they fix them this time round :ph34r:

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#2 oDDity

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Posted 23 January 2005 - 05:36 PM

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Posted 23 January 2005 - 05:38 PM

Is that the article where they talk about how they actually modeled their landscapes based on realistic *soil erosion*?

Those are pretty stunning. I've never seen deciduous trees so real.
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#4 oDDity

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Posted 23 January 2005 - 05:41 PM

Didn't see that article, I'd like to read it though. Bethseda do make incredibly detailed and intricate gameworlds, you have to grant them that.
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Posted 23 January 2005 - 06:09 PM

And with Emil Pagliarulo working on the stealth aspects of the game, we can expect it to be a bit more Thiefish.

From what I've read it seems you actually have to stick to the shadows and move around at night if you wanna be a successful thief.

#6 oDDity

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Posted 23 January 2005 - 07:00 PM

Yup, it could be potentially the best game ever, if they don't fuck it up with blatant laziness in some areas like the last time, but the main problem area in Morrowind is sounding pretty good in Oblivion at least...

'Oblivion features a groundbreaking new AI system, called Radiant AI, which gives non-player characters (NPCs) the ability to make their own choices based on the world around them. They'll decide where to eat or who to talk to and what they'll say. They'll sleep, go to church, and even steal items, all based on their individual characteristics. Full facial animations and lip-synching, combined with full speech for all dialog, allows NPCs to come to life like never before.'

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#7 Ishtvan

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Posted 23 January 2005 - 07:34 PM

I heard in STALKER that the AI will actually be competing with you on quests for items and stuff, or taking the quest if you don't do it. Looking forward to that one.

I'm looking forward to letting an AI go into the Zone and get my item, then ambushing him on the way back and taking my item from his corpse. :)

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Posted 23 January 2005 - 08:05 PM

STALKER is gonna be freaking awesome if GSC can pull off even half of what they've promised.

Between it and Gothic 3 I'm gonna be spending tons of time playing games. I'd throw ES4 in there but it probably isn't gonna come out til 06, unfortunately.

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Posted 24 January 2005 - 04:58 AM

I'll just buy it for the fact that it's doing what I've wanted a graphics engine to do since forever - it draws practically all the way into the distance, just getting ridiculously simpler and simpler to compensate - so that mountain range you can see in the distance in that picture up there? You can actually walk there, if you wanted... :)

And they are doing forests that actually look like real dense forests.

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Posted 24 January 2005 - 05:54 AM

YOu can ride your horse there Domarius) About time we saw some decent free roaming horses in games. I wonder if you;'ll be able to fight from horseback and chop peoples heads of with your sword as you run them down.
I've always wanted to do that :ph34r:
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#11 sparhawk

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Posted 24 January 2005 - 06:38 AM

The screenshots look awesome. I hope that the story is better though. In the "Elder Scrolls 3" I somehow lost track of what I should do or where to go to continue. And I have playe a number of RPGs, so that's not something new to me.
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 08:55 AM

yeah the screenshots look really amazing. here're some new ones:
http://www.gamestar....p?galleryId=954

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Posted 25 January 2005 - 03:17 AM

This is pretty much the only game i'm looking forward to, i reallly liked Morrowind even though it was very flawed in some departments. The most impressive shot ive seen so far is the Daedroth, that looks incredible. I just hope they have better animations this time round, i'd be such a shame to have characters that look that good but still walk like robots.

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Posted 25 January 2005 - 03:35 PM

Umm, can someone translate? :P I went to that site, BlackThief, and tried clicking thru the images... but I get this message:
"Für dieses Bild müssen Sie bei GameStar.de Premium eingeloggt sein. Alle Bilder stehen einen Tag lang öffentlich zur Verfügung, danach sind Sie auschließlich den Abonnenten unseres Online-Abonnements vorbehalten. Zum Schließen bitte in das Bild klicken!"

It's probably saying I need a GameStar login or something, eh?

EDIT: But those shots I do see above look stunning.

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#15 sparhawk

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Posted 25 January 2005 - 03:38 PM

Yes. You need an account, and you have to pay for it. :(
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#16 BlackThief

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Posted 25 January 2005 - 03:40 PM

yeah - forgot that they're only free for just one day :( GS sucks in this regard....

#17 SneaksieDave

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Posted 25 January 2005 - 06:44 PM

Try here.

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Posted 25 January 2005 - 08:33 PM

Very cool! I love the grass, hills and forests.

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 10:26 AM

After Morrowind I am slightly dubious about the gameplay aspects of any future Bethesda game.

(Not the visual aspects so much, obviously! Morrowind is the only recent game I have where the art direction really impressed me.)

Having people acting realistically is good - however it seems like Oblivion will have the same problem as Morrowind, which is that actual world is very small - less than 1,000 npc's, which would be ok except that the game is supposed to cover an entire province. Daggerfall was much better at simulating immersion into an entire society.

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 03:49 PM

My first experience with Bethesda was some "Wayne Gretzky's Hockey" game for the Amiga 500 or Commodore 64. Whatever it was for, it was pretty sweet for its time :) If they made Morrowind: ESIII, then yeah, they sucked that up big-time. What a boring game.

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 04:02 PM

ESIII was fun for the first few days of playing it, then I realised that I can have just as much fun by doing such exciting quests in real life, such as: "filling out tax forms and taking them to the mailbox" "going to the grocery store," etc.

#22 oDDity

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 04:31 PM

Well, they're certainly talking the talk when it comes to the improved AI and questing in ESIV, and I'm sure we're all hoping they can walk the walk, because if they do it'll be one hell of a game.
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#23 Dram

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 04:45 PM

You know it's funny, cos tbefore morrowind there was Redguard. Redguard had one of the most innovative sword fighting IMO. No "sorry you're only level 56, you miss" crap. But that's my opinion. Though the puzzles in the game were so immersive and challenging that their hotline had around 200 calls a day asking for help with the puzzles :o . But sadly, (as mostly RPG players loved daggerfall and arena, redguard did'nt sell as well as it should have. I bought it myself too) it was'nt as recognised as it should have been. Before Redguard they wanted to make Morrowind to have "vast armies marching the lands" and "over 10000 cells" though technology prevented it. But if you play Redguard, you get a lot more in-depth info on the gods ,etc. (lol, there was one part where you got to another dimension to talk to Clavicus Vile - freaky). There was also this Dark Elf Assassin whose name was Dram (hence my nickname). LOL, it was funny in some points too - governor says "what do i pay you for, Dram?" Dram says "for my chilling countenance, of course". and also - "should we continue with the attack? (Dram said this when explosions were heard from the harbour as the redguards were attacking Stros M'Kai) and the governor replies "who do you think is blowing up our ships, Dram?" :lol: . Also, EVERY word said in the game was voice acted. Also, the actual voice acting was superb, the imperial voice actor voice acted for Morrowind too.

So basically, Morrowind was meant to be spectacular because of it's armies, though technology (and money) was not so readily available, and as redguard had'nt sold well to the RPG-ers, they did'nt want another dropped game. Hence why Morrowind is as it is.

Upon saying this, I wish to say that I have bought Morrowind and all it's expansions (Tribunal, Bloodmon [my favourite!!!]) and my mod count for it is well over 100 (downloaded ones that is). So I think you should give it some slack as it was the RPG-ers that wanted it to be an RPG. Though, the reason of low-environment-detail is that the editor needed placement of EVERY friggin object, so yeah.

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 07:55 PM

Before Redguard they wanted to make Morrowind to have "vast armies marching the lands" and "over 10000 cells" though technology prevented it.

...And ISA said they wanted T3 to have "swimmable water," "rope arrows" and "large levels" though technology prevented it :D

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 07:10 AM

LOL




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