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Poll: Betrayal by Fieldmedic (2010/08/17) Summer FM Vertical Contest Entry (56 member(s) have cast votes)

1. Gameplay: Enjoyment. Fun duration. Smooth flow, ect. Versus Bugs. Frustration, Boredom, framelag

  1. Poor (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Tolerable (11 votes [19.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 19.64%

  3. Good (14 votes [25.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  4. Excellent (23 votes [41.07%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 41.07%

  5. Near Perfect (8 votes [14.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

2. Appearance: Vertical use, Visual pleasure, lighting, visual style, deduct bad texturing etc.

  1. Poor (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Tolerable (2 votes [3.57%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

  3. Good (25 votes [44.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 44.64%

  4. Excellent (21 votes [37.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

  5. Near Perfect (8 votes [14.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

3. Story & Text: Story. Text. Briefing. Graphic storytelling

  1. Poor (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Tolerable (7 votes [12.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  3. Good (22 votes [39.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 39.29%

  4. Excellent (21 votes [37.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

  5. Near Perfect (6 votes [10.71%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.71%

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#176 Obsttorte

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 03:58 PM

@ thiefette: as far as I recognized it this is a new 1.08 feature :D
didn't tried it out yet, but I guess I'll have to :P
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#177 TheUnbeholden

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 05:01 PM

Fun mission although some parts are tough, just require adequate exploration. I found the story to be alright eventhough it would be nice to really get to the bottom of things and necromancy behind it but maybe I'm just being to greedy. There is something that I liked alot and thats probably escape & and climbing up to that tower. I always love towers/castles in general so that may be just me.

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Edited by TheUnbeholden, 18 December 2012 - 05:36 PM.


#178 Fieldmedic

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:33 PM

Fun mission although some parts are tough, just require adequate exploration. I found the story to be alright eventhough it would be nice to really get to the bottom of things and necromancy behind it but maybe I'm just being to greedy. There is something that I liked alot and thats probably escape & and climbing up to that tower. I always love towers/castles in general so that may be just me.

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Glad you liked it!

I actually played my mission the other day and got frustrated over my keyhunts. The level look bland with uninspiring patrols and lots of unoptimized and boring areas. And the architecture is just WUTA, but it was an experiment as well as the story...But it's nice to see how I've improved my work over my small mapping career :) My current mission is WAY more realistic in every sense :)

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WTF is WUTA?
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Edited by Fieldmedic, 18 December 2012 - 09:34 PM.


#179 Bridge

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 06:04 PM

I found this to be very boring and frustrating to play. It is way too long especially because there is an utter lack of proper pacing and the way it is designed is maddening. For example, the key to the priest's drawer being hidden under the towels in the cubboard. There are no clues whatsoever that would suggest it would be there. I would accept it if it were a secret, but it is an essential objective. How was I supposed to know the priest had the only key to the tower? I did not even come close to getting all of the loot despite looking pretty much everywhere and for some reason the objective to find out the secret behind the strange happenings would not complete even though I found out the secret. The mapping was quite inspired in places but for most of it it was just too samey (that is to say if you could even see the mapping seeing as the level was so dark). I think the map could have done with some more reading material as well.

I gave it 2/3/2. There was a lot of potential but it was just squandered IMO. If this really was your first mission though then I have to say it's an impressive start.

#180 Fieldmedic

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 07:31 AM

Thanks Bridge, that was an honest review :) Yes, it's my first map and yes, it's (mostly) uncoherent crap :)

#181 Jon Irenicus

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 09:09 PM

This is my first map and it is a quite unique map, architecturally speaking.


This is your first map?! Holy crap man, you are truly talented! Indeed, a unique map.
I enjoyed playing this for the most part. Just finished on Expert.
The difficulty is just right most of the time, but there were times when things got really tough or boring.
And I agree with what Bridge said about the key to the priest's drawer. That definitely needed some kind of clue. Luckily, I was able to find the key with relative ease because of my habit of frobbing itens.
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Awesome work Fieldmedic, thanks!

Edited by Jon Irenicus, 30 November 2013 - 09:30 PM.


#182 Gussak

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 04:41 PM

I found it very cool to play!

1 - (ok - http://youtu.be/qtx4rAtNkDg?t=43m55s hehe) But I cannot complete the objective that tells us to discover about what causes the abnormality? (can someone pm me on that? what triggers it?) I am not sure if it bugged here or if I missed something because I have already walked everywhere (from prison to top tower) two times and nothing changed...

2 - (ok) [EDIT: just found it :blush:] Btw, I could not find the key to the control tower, so I had to shoot a rope arrow at the ceiling edge from a window eaves (after jumping on it from a cannon). That was actually very cool and difficult (required many loadgames) but I am not sure it was intended tho? :)

thx!

Edited by Gussak, 29 October 2014 - 02:23 PM.

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#183 Wallace

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 12:58 PM

How do I finish this level? Ive done all objectives and reached the lighthouse. Should activating the light be the trigger for completing the mission?



#184 MirceaKitsune

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Posted 04 October 2015 - 05:34 PM

This was very nice, one of the most fun missions I played lately! I actually tried it months ago first, but gave up when I couldn't climb the tower with rope arrows (I was still a noob at the time).

 

What I enjoyed most of all and think this mission did a great job at was diversity: You start in a mine filled with undead, make your way out to a collapsed wooden tower, then eventually to what looks like a clean modern castle. Most TDM levels are monotonic and don't offer much change in scenery, and with it a better feeling of progress. Additionally you have to use multiple types of skills and mechanics, such as climbing and moving objects out of the way. I'd gladly offer this as an example of what I want to see in TDM more often :)

 

Overall, the mapping and quality were good, the gameplay pretty fun and not boring, and the story was okay for what you can expect in a single TDM mission. Very good work!


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#185 assembler

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 04:26 PM

I just finished this mission. It was one surprise after another. I expected something like: get out of the mine full of zombies and then - change! Ok, wooden structure full of zombies - change again! :-)

You have definitely +1 point for various environments packed seamlessly into one level. I also like the vertical design of the level and especially need to use rope arrows.

 

Just one complain: jumping and climbing in mines was difficult as hell due to a bit wrong geometry I think.

 

But it was very good mission and I enjoyed it, thank you!



#186 CountMorillonite

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 02:17 PM

LOOT

 

Playing on Expert, I couldn't end the mission because I only retrieved 2344 out of 2700 needed. I found a loot list and apparently I'm missing 175 in Jewels ( I have 0), but the list doesn't mention any gems at all. Also, 2 items mentioned I'm pretty sure I missed but I don't know where the location is....

 

1. A Dresser in Curio's bedroom contain a purse. Where is Curio's Bedroom ? Is this the small bedroom at the base of the stairs leading to the Priest's Attic ?? I checked the dresser there but found nothing.

2. 2 Wine Bottles located at the "North Battlements Hatch" (by a "Ledge Crate"). I don't know where this is and it doesn't help not having a compass to differentiate North Battlement from the other 3 battlements.

 

Together, these would put me over 2700.

 

Loving the mission regardless.

 

 



#187 The Dark One

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 02:29 PM

LOOT

 

Playing on Expert, I couldn't end the mission because I only retrieved 2344 out of 2700 needed. I found a loot list and apparently I'm missing 175 in Jewels ( I have 0), but the list doesn't mention any gems at all. Also, 2 items mentioned I'm pretty sure I missed but I don't know where the location is....

 

1. A Dresser in Curio's bedroom contain a purse. Where is Curio's Bedroom ? Is this the small bedroom at the base of the stairs leading to the Priest's Attic ?? I checked the dresser there but found nothing.

2. 2 Wine Bottles located at the "North Battlements Hatch" (by a "Ledge Crate"). I don't know where this is and it doesn't help not having a compass to differentiate North Battlement from the other 3 battlements.

 

Together, these would put me over 2700.

 

Loving the mission regardless.

 

 

 

If I recall correctly...

 

Spoiler

 

That should be where those two pieces are, though I could be wrong.


Because in mystery novels, the first suspect is almost certainly never the murderer. No matter how much unmovable evidence there is, it will all be smashed in pieces by the wrath of the remaining number of pages of the story.

 

-"The Evil Spirit of the Zushi Clan" from Virtual Carnal Pleasure by Yamada Fuutarou


#188 CountMorillonite

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 03:03 PM

 

If I recall correctly...

 

Spoiler

 

That should be where those two pieces are, though I could be wrong.

 

You're right on the first one. That's a great location for loot. AND it was the 175 in jewels I was missing. 

 

I'm not sure that you're right about the second one. The lootlist is generally linear and the "battlement" reference comes after the Priest's Dining room stuff ( cutlery, etc on the dining room table). So I'm thinking the Battlement Hatch is in the area after the Priest's Dining room but before the chapel.  

 

Later.....

 

I found it but it's not where you suggested. 

 

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Thanks for your help. It would have been a long time before I figured them out. 


Edited by CountMorillonite, 22 November 2017 - 03:23 PM.





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