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#351 Albert

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 01:42 PM

I think Sofa has said it better than I. Basically, it's up to the mappers foremost. And for them, they wanted a different set of brushes to work with, than what TDM has given them. I agree, it feels that you've greatly limited yourselves.

Hell, maybe I should just delete my mess of a last post. But, I'm tracing my steps and realizing that the best idea is to leave it. Leave it as an example of my evolution on this issue. I'm highly opinionated still, but willing to meet people halfway at least. If we can just get over the fact that entire projects must go about as they were originally intended, and go with that "chaotic surreal magic", as Demagogue said...

Then just maybe, we can see things finally moving as we all hoped for.

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#352 Tels

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 01:53 PM

I don't think you can generalize like that. I am a Thief player of the first hours, and I am a member of TTLG far longer than I can remember. But then, I have moved on to TDM. So, why do you think that TDM hasn't been what I wanted?

Also, I disagree on the "TDM has to prove more". We are WAAAY past that stage. And to be honest, TDM isn't going to change anymore radically, it might get even better, but if it hasn't won someone over yet, then this will not happen.

People who still fault TDM (for whatever) will never be happy until it is 100% what they want (e.g. what they envision T2 to be), but we will never go that route. TDM is not Thief, and this is perfectly fine and actually what I want.
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#353 Springheel

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 02:01 PM

I agree, it feels that you've greatly limited yourselves.
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from who I've talked to, and what I've gathered, PEOPLE are not universally in on this game
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there's alot of honest things you guys aren't picking up on.
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alot of veteran map-makers have felt opposed to the whole look and feel of the game


Specifics?

Just not what everyone on TTLG was hoping for


Nothing is going to be what "everyone on TTLG was hoping for". Thief 2 wasn't. TDS wasn't, Thief 4 won't be, and TDM isn't either.

what you've done is you've run with this well-developed idea, and have not exactly been on the same page with the TTLG community.


See above.

But for the record, this project began on TTLG, and most of the people who worked on it are TTLG members.
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#354 AluminumHaste

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 02:53 PM

The last 2 posts pretty much sum up that conversation, can someone remove this blight of a thread from the forums now? It must be distressing to new forum members to see one of the most active threads is one entitled "The End is Nigh".
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#355 grayman

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 02:58 PM

The last 2 posts pretty much sum up that conversation, can someone remove this blight of a thread from the forums now? It must be distressing to new forum members to see one of the most active threads is one entitled "The End is Nigh".


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