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#1 Bikerdude

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 12:23 PM

Between these Dark Walls by Skacky

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Story:
Things could potentially get messy tonight. I was on my way back home when some tough boys ambushed me. They weren't looking for money or anything, they just wanted to kill me right there in the street. Fortunately, I managed to run away unscathed, but these guys are still looking for me. I've managed to piece together something from rumours and hearsays; turns out Messer Beric, an usurer I've done jobs for in the past sold me out to Raputo, one of the City Wardens, in order to prove that he'll be loyal and pay his tributes. Apparently Beric's business collapsed with DeWall's demise, and now he seeks the protection of Raputo. Not to mention Beric's business was run right under Raputo's nose, but he was protected by DeWall at that time. In exchange for his 'good work', Beric received a priceless necklace as a reward, and keeps it stashed in his crumbling castle in Newmarket.

Now is time for some sweet revenge; I am going to steal Beric's necklace and humiliate him; that'll teach him never to double-cross me. I should also steal some valuables along the way, just to show Raputo how I deal with his reckless threats. Raputo doesn't like independents operating within his turf, so I'll make sure to plunder the neighbourhood. I got to be careful, though. With DeWall's downfall, The City became more dangerous than ever. Thugs and assassins are on the loose in the dark, and lawmen and Hammerites prowl the streets in search of heretics and criminals alike. Cragscleft has never been so full.

Download links:
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- Thiefmissions
- Southqaurter

Notes:
Please note that due to how TG behaves with New Dark, Darkloader incorrectly identifies this FM as a T2 mission. Follow these steps if you want to load the FM with Darkloader:
  • Install the FM in your FM archive directory as usual.
  • Launch Darkloader and select the FM, but don't launch the mission! Instead, close Darkloader once the FM is selected and shows the T2 gear icon.
  • In your Darkloader directory, open the file named darkloader.ini
  • Search for darkwalls, it should be at the very end of the file.
  • Replace the line type=2 with type=1. Save and close the file.
  • Launch Darkloader again and the FM should appear as a TG FM with the glorious Pagan eye! You're now ready to creep through the dark and gloomy cityscape of Newmarket!
Misc:
  • For obvious reasons, it is recommended you play this FM in dark conditions. This is a major part of the experience.
  • Given that this FM has a strong focus on verticality, keep one or two rope arrows with you at all times. Three additional rope arrows can be found on all difficulty levels.
  • Explore, explore, explore and see where the twisted rooftops of Newmarket take you.
  • Make sure to read everything you come across, hints and plot elements may be written somewhere.
  • Higher difficulty means less starting gear, less equipment to be found, a higher loot goal and more opponents. The main objective remains the same.
  • It is possible to Ghost this mission and get all the loot while doing so.
Comments:
Yet again Skacky has captured the old skewl feel of thief we all know and love,

Have fun :D

#2 Shadowhide

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 12:29 PM

great mission,better than anything for TDM in terms of city design except the RttC but this mission is few times bigger

Skacky is the member of these forums right ? i'd like to know about his future editing plans
Proceed with caution!

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 05:08 AM

I will have to install NewDark on my main PC. Looks like a mission I would love to have built.
Come the time of peril, did the ground gape, and did the dead rest unquiet 'gainst us. Our bands of iron and hammers of stone prevailed not, and some did doubt the Builder's plan. But the seals held strong, and the few did triumph, and the doubters were lain into the foundations of the new sanctum. -- Collected letters of the Smith-in-Exile, Civitas Approved

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:23 PM

Play report: I think everyone owes it to him- or herself to play this mission. In terms of pure rooftop gameplay, it is one of the best FMs out there. The visual style and sound design are also great, filling the environment with dark wonder. Maybe the relative lack of readables is a weak point, but really, with such an exquisite realisation of the City, that's not a negative mark.

Anyone building missions, or developing assets for TDM should also play this and take notes. I would like to see missions like this in the future, please.

Also, the easter egg in the priest's room was amusing. Ha! :D
Come the time of peril, did the ground gape, and did the dead rest unquiet 'gainst us. Our bands of iron and hammers of stone prevailed not, and some did doubt the Builder's plan. But the seals held strong, and the few did triumph, and the doubters were lain into the foundations of the new sanctum. -- Collected letters of the Smith-in-Exile, Civitas Approved

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:45 PM

Is there a walkthrough anywhere?
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#6 grayman

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:36 AM

What is "New Dark"?

#7 Sir Taffsalot

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:37 AM

What is "New Dark"?


Just another name for the T2 1.19 patch

I cant get TG FMs to work on Darkloader. I'm wondering if its because I'm using the disk with all 3 Thief games on it? I have an individual disk for T1 and T2 and they work fine with Darkloader.
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#8 Shadowhide

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:35 AM

I cant get TG FMs to work on Darkloader. I'm wondering if its because I'm using the disk with all 3 Thief games on it? I have an individual disk for T1 and T2 and they work fine with Darkloader.

unzip contrib.zip in your TG folder
unzip new_dark.zip in your TG folder
add " dark1 " line in the end of cam_ext.cfg
create "patch" folder in your TG folder and place intrface.crf from Thief1/doc/T1.7z

create T2.exe (yes,you have to launch T1 via T2.exe now) shortcut and add " -fm " parameter to it
then run game from that shortcut(new fm selector will open),configure fm folder and select wanted fm

Edited by Shadowhide, 20 November 2012 - 06:44 AM.

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#9 Sir Taffsalot

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:37 AM

Nice one SH! I'll give it a go when I get home from work today.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 10:35 PM

I played this today, and it's an exceptional mission. It seems that if you exhaust your rope arrows, you might as well go home, so be careful about that.

Unfortunately, I was unable to find the item I'm supposed to find, and I've spent the last hour going back through places I've already been, with no clue where the item might be. Can't find any new places, so this is probably it for me.

#11 Melan

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:30 AM

grayman: Have you been to
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If you haven't,
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Come the time of peril, did the ground gape, and did the dead rest unquiet 'gainst us. Our bands of iron and hammers of stone prevailed not, and some did doubt the Builder's plan. But the seals held strong, and the few did triumph, and the doubters were lain into the foundations of the new sanctum. -- Collected letters of the Smith-in-Exile, Civitas Approved

#12 grayman

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:39 AM

Melan:

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:58 AM

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#14 Melan

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:05 PM

Grayman: Another door should also be pickable (this threw me as well for some reason).
Come the time of peril, did the ground gape, and did the dead rest unquiet 'gainst us. Our bands of iron and hammers of stone prevailed not, and some did doubt the Builder's plan. But the seals held strong, and the few did triumph, and the doubters were lain into the foundations of the new sanctum. -- Collected letters of the Smith-in-Exile, Civitas Approved

#15 grayman

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:11 PM

@Melan/Gman

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#16 grayman

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:12 PM

Finished.

Terrific mission.

Now to revisit my rooftop mission with a different eye.

#17 skacky

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:59 PM

Thanks everyone, I'm glad you enjoyed it! I can't wait to see your rooftop mission, grayman.
I'd gladly join the Darkradiant ranks, alas I think I have a severe case of dromeditis for the moment. But who knows, someday I might return.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 07:18 AM

I'd gladly join the Darkradiant ranks, alas I think I have a severe case of dromeditis for the moment. But who knows, someday I might return.

That reminds me, at some point I have to crack on with WR....

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 01:13 AM

Hi everyone,

Has anyone been able to get fm's to play through Thief 1, Gold, 2, or 3 that were purchased through Steam? I've been trying to install/patch with no luck so far, and am wondering if Steam is the reason I can't get the fm to load.

Thanks in advance :)

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 03:02 PM

You can surely install FMs with the versions of TG, T2 and TDS from Steam. You don't even require Steam to run the games once you have purchased them. Install TFix first and launch the FM afterwards, I think the issue you're having is that you don't have New Dark installed.

TFix: http://www.ttlg.com/...ad.php?t=134733

#21 simplen00b

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 03:46 PM

I had a few problems getting this FM to work; the steps I went through (IIRC) were: -
1. New install of TDP
2. Applied the TFix patch
3. Applied the tgpatch_basic.exe patch (don't think you need this if you've already got Thief Gold)
4. Copied convict.osm from my T2 folder to the TDP folder
5. Ran the darkloader tweak (see the 'Notes' section in the OP).

All fine after that.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:56 AM

er SN, all you needed to do was install T1 then apply the 'newdark' update. I strongly recommend people start doing that instead of using old patches based on the previous version, because soon all new mission will require the newdark version.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:21 AM

all you needed to do was install T1 then apply the 'newdark' update

I did that, and though I could open the mission, I couldn't get any weapons activated (the weapon icon would show in the bottom LH corner, but nothing else would happen). I posted my problem on the TTLG thread and skacky said it sounded like I was "playing with a non-TG-patched TDP".

All I know is that after a fair bit of messing around (the number & type of Thief patches out there is quite confusing), it worked after going through the above steps. Which made me very happy cuz this is a really good mission. (Maybe it's just me getting used to it, but the climbing and mantling felt much easier than the T2 FMs I've played recently. In "Better Tomorrow" and "Ominous Bequest" I felt like had an 80-90% failure rate for jumping onto things - with this one it felt like an 80-90% success rate.)

#24 skacky

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:51 AM

Well, it's all pretty simple really.

If you own Thief: The Dark Project (T1/TDP), you will need to install TFix and the Thief Gold patch if you want to play the FM, since it uses assets from Thief Gold that are not present with The Dark Project.
If you own Thief Gold (TG), you just need to install TFix.

The version of Thief 1 that is distributed on Steam and Good Old Games is Thief Gold, but it's not patched with New Dark, so you're gonna need to install TFix.

Edited by skacky, 03 December 2012 - 11:53 AM.


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Posted 03 December 2012 - 12:26 PM

Skacky, are you saying your mission dosent work with Newdark..? as I Never noticed any problems with beta testing..




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