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Should water from a water arrow wake a sleeper?

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  1. 1. Should falling water wake up a sleeper?

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Springheel

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Do you mean should = "I would like it to" or should = "should already work this way but is broken"?

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GUFF

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More "would like it to" but a lot of less conspicuous behaviors such as light sounds from banging around while manipulating objects tend to alert AIs to higher levels than shooting them in the face with a water arrow currently does.

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I don't think any AI are aware of the water hitting them; just the sound if it hits close by. I'd support having it alert/wake them up though.

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Have you ever tried to sleep through a cup of water ot the face? :P

 

The people I've slept with are kinder to me than...nevermind... ;p

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I don't think any AI are aware of the water hitting them; just the sound if it hits close by. I'd support having it alert/wake them up though.

Would it be hard to implement full alert if (awake) guards are hit by a water arrow? I remember water arrowing a guard with a flare, to expunge it, and, as you said, he seemed to be only alerted by the sound, which was quite weird. ^_^

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I voted depends, if the water hits their boots, it shouldn't do anything. Face? Absolutely.

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I'm not sure it's worth making that distinction. It's not unreasonable to think they might wake up even if it hits their boots.

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The only issue I guess is that some maps have AIs sitting around a table with loot on it that you can only get without a high alert level by dousing a candle or overhead light fixture with a water arrow. Knighton Manor and The Builder Roads come to mind, with the latter having an actual objective to not raise your alert level to a certain level or fail the mission when at the highest difficulty.

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The only issue I guess is that some maps have AIs sitting around a table with loot on it that you can only get without a high alert level by dousing a candle or overhead light fixture with a water arrow. Knighton Manor and The Builder Roads come to mind, with the latter having an actual objective to not raise your alert level to a certain level or fail the mission when at the highest difficulty.

Can't we simply explain this away by the potency of the water in the water arrow, that it only requires a teeny-tiny bit to put out fire? I think something like that was mentioned in the arrow thread.

 

So you're both advocating that the water not bother AI that it hits?

 

It can be treated like a very mild version of getting hit by an object. More of an irritation than a suspected aggressive act.

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If I implement this (and at this point it looks like a resounding Yes), I'm going to have to first fix the bug where falling water doesn't stop at the floor.

 

I wouldn't want to douse a torch on floor 2 and have the falling water wake up a sleeper below it on floor 1.

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So you're both advocating that the water not bother AI that it hits?

 

It can be treated like a very mild version of getting hit by an object. More of an irritation than a suspected aggressive act.

Correct, though the proposed narrative fits with this proposal as well.

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I would be careful. Water particles fall through the floors, right? Therefore, one might awaken an AI that is one floor below the fireplace you are dousing.

This scenario should be investigated first.

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Psst...

If I implement this (and at this point it looks like a resounding Yes), I'm going to have to first fix the bug where falling water doesn't stop at the floor.

 

I wouldn't want to douse a torch on floor 2 and have the falling water wake up a sleeper below it on floor 1.

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I'd imagine the arrow itself (holding the water crystal) would wake up or set any guard on alert because even though it is blunt rod , the force behind it would probably be strong enough to sting and / or leave a bruise (similar to a paint ball).

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