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[Springheel]

I hadn't seen this yet, but apparently we almost tied the number of T2 missions made last year? I find that somewhat unexpected.

 

 

http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144864

[Goldwell]

Huh so either Thief 2 is on the fall or TDM is on the rise. Regardless 17 for a year is great! So congrats TDM

[nbohr1more]

We've had a small boost since going standalone. Hopefully we can ramp up further as we continue to optimize and beautify.

 

It seems that some T2 editors are eyeing TDM after seeing how poorly Soul Tear's latest NewDark mission runs on modern

hardware. The myth that T2 performs a bazillion times better is being challenged now that the polygon limits are removed.

Still nice that Dark Engine auto portalizes \ optimizes for mappers though.

[demagogue]

Well on the auto portalizing and optimizing, I mean it saves time no doubt, but it can also encourage lazy building habits. Thinking of portals explicitly makes the mapper really have to plan out the design. Also there's the problem of blocky room brushes that dromed deals with, whereas our location system is a lot more flexibile.

 

It doesn't take that long to slap a portal on a door anyway. Optimizing the brushes, ok that'd be a nice feature if it really makes some difference.

[Sotha]

15 years is a long time. It is great feat that both communities still exists!

 

While looking at the statistics is interesting, it is important to remember that it is not only about quantity but also quality. If we wanted to beat T in quantity, we could easily make many 6h speedbuilds... But that would be silly!

 

The overall quality level of TDM missions have been really high. I haven't played any of the T missions.

 

At any rate, it is an indication that our generation has been deeply moved by the first real sneak 'em ups. It may be that the later generations are less impressed and are not picking up the modding tradition.

 

And why would they? They have a limitless amount of games poured into the market, and easy game making tools to make their own games. Perhaps we are the modding generation, growing old?

 

Getting old is okay, if you consider the alternative.

 

Congrats!

[Melan]

The real vitality of a community doesn't lie in a few elaborate missions. There will always be a few fanatics making them (myself included). Rather, it is a broad number of players and creators that does the trick. In that sense, I am happy there is an uptick in TDM editing, and that Thief 1 is still with us, but sad that this was also the year with the fewest total releases.

 

Many of the missions in Thief 2's heyday were pretty blah, but they spoke of a strong and resilient community that could also accomplish thing like T2X. We are far from that point.