2015 Halloween contest

[Goldwell]

I have been hesitant to join as I failed to hand my map in on time last year... but I have a small map idea that I wanted to try that should be built quickly so to heck with it, i'll enter too.

 

Map name: Spring Cleaning

 

[Baal]

Two quick technical questions:

 

• How do I rotate a door about an arbitrary axis (or one in its local coordinate system)? I have a slanted cellar access door but it doesn't rotate about its local axes but rather a global axis. Not what I expecteded or need.
• How can I spawn an entity via script or otherwise? I want to block a path at a certain point in the mission.

[grayman]

• How do I rotate a door about an arbitrary axis (or one in its local coordinate system)? I have a slanted cellar access door but it doesn't rotate about its local axes but rather a global axis. Not what I expecteded or need.

 

 

Start with a normal door entity. Use a door entity with a model, not a world brush that's been converted to a mover_door.

 

Set the opening rotation about the long axis. [y z x]

 

Rotate the door in DR to the angled position you want it in.

 

The local axes will rotate with the door.

 

Open the door and it should open along the (now) angled axis.

 

If you have to have a custom door and not one of the ones provided by TDM, you could create your custom door as a func_static, export it as a model, and import the model and follow the above steps. I haven't tried this; I assume the local axes will rotate with the custom model the same as a TDM-supplied model.

[grayman]

• How can I spawn an entity via script or otherwise? I want to block a path at a certain point in the mission.

 

 

The easiest method is to premake the entity and teleport it in when you need it.

 

If that's not sufficient, come back for a scripted solution.

[demagogue]

Remind me how to make a self-made moveable, like a frobable plank you can remove from a wall. If I just change the func_stat class to moveable it turns into a black box.

[Goldwell]

Remind me how to make a self-made moveable, like a frobable plank you can remove from a wall. If I just change the func_stat class to moveable it turns into a black box.

 

Have you made a collision model for it yet?

[demagogue]

I see it's all in the moveable wiki entry, so I'll follow that.

[Baal]

 

Start with a normal door entity. Use a door entity with a model, not a world brush that's been converted to a mover_door.

 

Set the opening rotation about the long axis. [y z x]

 

Rotate the door in DR to the angled position you want it in.

 

The local axes will rotate with the door.

 

Open the door and it should open along the (now) angled axis.

Thanks, but that didn't work. I think I did it exactly this way.

 

The door does not rotate about the local axis. I set "rotate" to "0 -100 0" so it moves like you would expect in the default position. When I then rotate the door (around the x axis) it still rotates around the z world axis when opened.

[grayman]

Thanks, but that didn't work. I think I did it exactly this way.

 

The door does not rotate about the local axis. I set "rotate" to "0 -100 0" so it moves like you would expect in the default position. When I then rotate the door (around the x axis) it still rotates around the z world axis when opened.

 

What door entity are you using?

[Baal]

atdm:door_96x48_2hinge

[SteveL]

atdm:door_96x48_2hinge

 

I just tried it and it seems (to my surprise) that yes doors rotate using the global axes not local ones. It's defined by the "rotate" spawnarg which defaults to "0 90 0", meaning +90 degrees round the global y axis. If your door's axis is horizontal but still aligned along either the x or z axes in DR, you can probably get the right result by using the x or z axes: 90 0 0 or -90 0 0 or 0 0 90 etc

 

If it's at bizarre angle, then post its "rotation" spawnarg and we can try to work out the right values for the "rotate" spawnarg.

[grayman]

I haven't been able to get it to work. There must be something special about rotating about the Z axis that the code won't rotate locally.

 

I based my suggestion on the footlocker lid, which lies flat and rotates about the local x axis. You can rotate that door any which way and it always rotates around the local x axis. I was unable to achieve this same behavior for a local Z axis.

 

I have no other suggestions. Hopefully someone else can think of something.

[Sotha]

I'm done for the day. Total time spent so far: 4h.

 

Basic geometry is done, no rooms will be added anymore. Visportals and doors were added. Added player start and dmapped for the first time. Fixed few leaks. Hunted some sounds from freesound.org, wrote a few lines for player character comments.

 

Next 2h packet will probably be: lighting, furniture, decoration.

[Baal]

The door is rotated around x (red) axis. This is the matrix stored in "rotation":

1 0 0 0 0.265889 -0.964004 0 0.964004 0.265889

Edit: If someone can compute the resulting angles (Euler angles?) that would be great. If not, I just lay the door flat.

Edited October 20, 2015 by Baal

[Melan]

I started tonight, and logged about 2 hours, spending that time building some building facades and a fancy city wall with a tower. More tomorrow.

[grayman]

The door is rotated around x (red) axis. This is the matrix stored in "rotation":

1 0 0 0 0.265889 -0.964004 0 0.964004 0.265889

Edit: If someone can compute the resulting angles (Euler angles?) that would be great. If not, I just lay the door flat.

 

I don't think there's enough information here to provide a correct answer.

 

The code will only rotate doors around the x or y or z global axes, OR the x or y or z local axes. It can't rotate a door around a general vector.

 

I think the footlocker lid works at all angles because its hinge side is along the x axis. All our big door models have the hinge axis along the z axis, and there's no way I know of to fool the code into thinking it should rotate the big doors around anything but the global Z axis.

 

I don't even think you can create a model from a func_static and have the long axis along the x axis and have it behave like a footlocker lid.

[161803398874989]

Baal, that matrix corresponds to a rotation of ~75 degrees. General form of the rotation matrix for a rotation around the x-axis is:

1    0       0
0 cos(r) -sin(r)
0 sin(r)  cos(r)

where r is the angle of rotation.

Edited October 21, 2015 by 161803398874989

[Sir Taffsalot]

There's no way I could build an FM in just two weeks. Best of luck to those involved!

[demagogue]

You could just make something like a haunted house to join the fun. Doesn't have to be a full blown FM, in my interpretation of the thing.

[nbohr1more]

Yep, quick and simple. 5 prefab cottages surrounded by some SEED trees and a few haunts patrolling,

or a small 5 room crypt. Obviously this is a super short term project and simplicity is the key.

[Sir Taffsalot]

I'm sure I could. It's just that I had planned for the last half of October to be DR free so I could catch up on Steam games and spend the rest of the year finishing the opera house level I'm working on with Biker. I don't want to give up my planned two weeks of Steam gaming catch up. Soz!

[Sotha]

Finished for the evening. Elapsed time: 6h.

 

Processed some audio. Made soundshaders for 4 custom sounds. Placed lights, furniture and general decoration. Lights, furniture & deco is now 90% done.

 

Up next: finish LF&D, monsterclipping, AI, objectives, copy paste readables from text editor to readable editor.

 

Screenshot from opening area:

[nbohr1more]

This is amazing (all of these entries)! I think I'm gonna cry tears of joy now

[Baal]

Are you trying to win this, Sotha? Stop that!

 

Now I have to squeeze in another hour of mapping. I feel a little behind.

[Melan]

Three more hours, some three hundred extra terrain brushes. This time a mixture of exteriors and interiors. Some detailwork as well.

 

Something really preliminary: