Splash Damage

[Destined]

So, I am almost done with the def file of my ghosts, but still have one problem: They can be killed by fire arrows and mines, due to the splash damage they get. Other damage sources do not affect them, because they are completely nonsolid and thus cannot be hit. I have already set all "damage_scale" spawnargs to 0, but they still recieve splash damage.

Also, they should not trigger mines, but since they are AI, I am not sure, if it possible to remove the trigger... Still, this would not matter that much, if the splash damage would not kill them.

[Sotha]

Could you circumvent this issue by giving the AI an insane amount of health: so much that nothing can kill them?

[Destined]

It could work, but the AI would still notice the player. The pain animation is already turned off, but the vocals would still hint that damage was done and the stealth score would be affected

[grayman]

Are there other, non-ghost AI in the mission that you'd expect to receive splash damage?

[Sotha]

Give the AI "noDamage 1"

there is such a spawnarg and it shoud do this:

"if set, monster won't take damage."

[Destined]

Are there other, non-ghost AI in the mission that you'd expect to receive splash damage?

 

Not in the area, where I wanted to put the ghosts. I am not even sure, if I actually put mines and fire arrows into the mission, but if someone else should want to use these ghosts, it might become a problem. So it is more of a "I want to avoid problems in general".

 

 

Give the AI "noDamage 1"

there is such a spawnarg and it shoud do this:

"if set, monster won't take damage."

 

Did you meant set the spawnarg "noDamage" to "1"? I already tried this spawnarg this way, but it did not work. Or do I have just give the AI the spawnarg without any text behind it? I also noticed, that this is not a 1/0 spawnarg, but has a text to type into it. So I also tried to insert a damage type into that, but it also did not work.

[grayman]

Did you meant set the spawnarg "noDamage" to "1"? I already tried this spawnarg this way, but it did not work. Or do I have just give the AI the spawnarg without any text behind it? I also noticed, that this is not a 1/0 spawnarg, but has a text to type into it. So I also tried to insert a damage type into that, but it also did not work.

 

"noDamage" "1" should make him invulnerable.

 

Don't worry about the "T" next to the spawnarg. "noDamage" is a boolean. While the editor definition doesn't show it that way, the code interprets "1" as true and "0" as false.

 

Edit: I've changed the editor definition from "var" to "bool" so this spawnarg will be treated as a boolean by DR.

[Destined]

Ok, I will try it again this evening. Thanks for the help!

[Destined]

Ok, noDamage helps, that the ghost can't die, but he still plays the "This is bad." sound. So the player still gets noticed. I will probably remove this from the vocal set, then the only effect would be in the stealth score. On the other hand: If the player actually shoots fire arrows at a ghost, he most likely does not care for his stealth score, so I will leave it at that. Thanks for all your help! The next point on the list is the vocals. I will post again, if I should run into problems there... And, of course, as soon as I am done with that.

[Springheel]

You can assign the mute vocal set, if you don't want them to talk at all.

[Destined]

I think the idle chatter at least is not bad. And since I am still not sure, how I want to design any ghost guards, it is probably not a bad idea to make the ghost vocals. My plan is to add an effect over the existing ones and once I figure out, which effects I want to add, I can do that for each vocal file, just to have it...