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looks very nice :)

 

however two things I noticed:

- the left chain of the tiger in the background seems to be wider than the chassis (edit after I found that photo I changed my mind - the chains seem to be that wide)

- I think the cap of the gunner of the first tank would look better with stronger outlines, so that you can differ the shield (is it called like that in english?) and the rest of the cap

like on that picture: http://www.sklej.pl/layout/images/products/400/02614_400.jpg

 

but that's just nitpicking ;)

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Why are you positng this stuff here? Wouldn't you be better off in an art forum or something if you wsnt feedback?

This is not a WW1/2 shooter game, and your only talent seems to be for drawing mitaria.

Civillisation will not attain perfection until the last stone, from the last church, falls on the last priest.

- Emil Zola

 

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Why are you positng this stuff here? Wouldn't you be better off in an art forum or something if you wsnt feedback?

This is not a WW1/2 shooter game, and your only talent seems to be for drawing mitaria.

yup. But this indeed is off-topic and I just like to share my work. Even if it isnt Thief related.

 

Thanks for the comments guys :)

 

Cobra 6

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Ok, I take it back, you can draw anything except thiefy scenes)

This isn't an art forum though, it just seems a bit of an odd place to come in order to ask for feedback and drawing tips, and what materials to use. There are plenty of dedicated art forums where you'd get better feedback and tips I'm sure.

Civillisation will not attain perfection until the last stone, from the last church, falls on the last priest.

- Emil Zola

 

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I also find it a little odd, given the sheer number of art forums out there. What kind of feedback do you expect to get here that you wouldn't get from an art forum? We only have a handful of 2d artists here.

 

Thiefish art, or even generic fantasy, I could see, but WW2...?

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It certainly looks like you're coming right along, Cobra6. You're definately starting to recognize form instead of simply copying photographs. You're next step (I think this was suggested to you in a thread here somewhere once before) is to start drawing from life.

Keep doing what you're doing, but also start taking your sketchbook with you and whenever you have a spare minute, sit down and draw whatever you see- especially people. This will really help you develop the ability to see and draw form instead of flat 2d shapes. It will help you be able to understand how something is actually shaped- it's form. When drawing this way, if you or your subject move even a little bit- it changes everything. Try looking at it with one eye at a time back and forth (camera 1- camera 2... from Wayne's World if you're old enough to have seen that dinosaur of a movie) and notice the changes from just that little bit of difference in perspective.

This will force you to change the way you draw, too. You will have to do quick contour drawings (just the outlines) and then start filling in details, or else by the time you're done with one part, you may have moved your head or shifted your sitting to the other butt cheek, and the person that was right in front of a window now looks like it's half way off of it. It can be frustrating, but with practice, it's great fun, and challenging.

 

Working from photographs is necessary, but they really only work as reference- you have to make them your own and be able to freely alter them as needed.

To lillustrate- once, in a college class, a friend of mine did an illustration of a runner. The professor took one look at it and told him that he drew it directly from a photograph. He was like: "yeah, how did you know? I copied the photo exactly- I even measured it and I know it still doesn't look right." He had the original photo there, and we could all see that he had done an extremely good job in copying it.

The problem with it was, that the runner in his drawing looked like she had only one leg, and a foot growing out of her butt. When we could see the photo, we immediately knew it was just the angle that the picture was taken at- the photo seemed just fine- we were able to accept it because we knew it was 'real', it was a photograph.

You can't get away with that sort of thing in drawing, though. It just doesn't look right. Like in your drawing of the tanks- the antenna coming up from the front tank goes up and just touches the bottom of the treads of the rear tank. I'm sure this is how it was in the photograph, but you want to avoid that sort of thing- it throws off the drawing, and just doesn't look quite right. If you were to make it a little longer, then it wouldn't look too exaggerated, and it would help enforce the idea that the tank at the bottom of the page is in front of the tank at the top.

You haven't destroyed the perspective with this- we still have the size differences, and other elements overlap, but you're at the point where you need to start recognizing little details like this. The devil IS in the details, but it's the details that really make it good.

 

Good work, though- you're really coming right along. B)

Sorry for the ramble- I hope this helps and is what you're looking for.

Hewer

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