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#51 kano

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Posted 28 January 2016 - 04:13 PM

http://betanews.com/...just-the-start/

 

Enjoying the show...

 

Also: http://betanews.com/...-is-a-disaster/

 

This is actually a good thing. I mean, we want this thing to fail. I mean, if it gets popular, it would just be a question of how long before software was exclusively offered in this manor, making it significantly more difficult to run in Wine or on older versions of Windows.

 

We all saw what Microsoft tried to pull with the XBox One.


Edited by kano, 28 January 2016 - 04:20 PM.


#52 esme

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:32 AM

Windows 10 just went from an optional update to a recommended update, even better it's preselected
 
http://www.theregist...in_10_holdouts/



#53 Oldjim

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 10:08 AM

I saw that - will be watching



#54 Bikerdude

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 03:36 AM

Windows 10 just went from an optional update to a recommended update, even better it's preselected

You mean its "gone back" to recommended, they had it as recommended a while back but the backlash caused M$ to make the excuse that was a mistake.

 

Your average user will be fine as long as we stick to security updates only.



#55 kano

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 09:49 AM

Believe it or not, this isn't me... I swear!

 

http://videochart.ne...fb0cc564790b4b8
 

 

As far as the updates go, I would not be at all surprised if Microsoft changes it to an important update right at the end of the free upgrade offer.


Edited by kano, 05 February 2016 - 09:51 AM.


#56 kano

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Posted 07 February 2016 - 02:05 PM

http://betanews.com/...metry-disabled/



#57 stumpy

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Posted 10 February 2016 - 10:48 PM

its likly to be a critical update to catch those off guard, and it will install while you are away, or stealthly in the background as a hidden process.

Although windows 10 might be the last operating system microsoft does, as they are gearing up to go cloud based only. you'll have a box, that connects directly to the internet with a basic hardcoded windows 10 operating system on rom and no ssd or hardrive, and everything like games and work will be done in the cloud. wont the hackers and data pirates be happy when that day comes.

it was mentioned on the gadget show on channel 5 about a year or two ago.



#58 esme

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Posted 11 February 2016 - 07:12 AM

Regarding the use of a hard coded box that does everything in the cloud

 

I refer Microsoft to the answer given in "Arkell v Pressdram"



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Posted 12 February 2016 - 12:25 AM

I've disabled all cloud integration that W10 lets me and I've also enabled all settings in Spybot's Anti-Beacon:

 

https://www.safer-ne...ot-anti-beacon/

 

To be honest, W10 spying isn't very high on my list of privacy concerns. Nothing they gather can be linked to my real name (no MS account, computer user name is "Lenovo"). Amazon probably knows 10 000 times more about me than Microsoft.


Edited by Reman, 12 February 2016 - 12:25 AM.


#60 Oldjim

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Posted 16 February 2016 - 05:12 PM

Just caught up with Windows Update - mine hasn't worked since last October and I hadn't realised - on Windows 7

Now sorted - so why am I posting

I had to hide  seven files all to do with Win 10 update


Edited by Oldjim, 16 February 2016 - 05:12 PM.


#61 Reman

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 06:54 AM

Steve Gibson mentioned in yesterday's Security Now podcast that Microsoft now has an official tool to disable all W10 update related stuff in Windows 7 and 8.1:

 

https://youtu.be/55bPu-2tYMo?t=4735

https://support.micr...n-us/kb/3080351



#62 Bikerdude

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 08:29 AM

hmmm, good. But now how about a tool to disable all telemtery in Win10...



#63 Oldjim

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 01:36 PM

Slightly off topic

In January something created a folder and files as per this picture - could it be part of getting ready for Windows 10

 



#64 Bikerdude

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 02:55 PM

That looks like a virus/trojan (AdWare.Win32.BHO MSIL/Adware.BHO), and a google search resulted in hard hardly any known good verifiable instances of it -

 

- https://www.google.c...live.dll&nfpr=1

 

That and Micro$oft killed off Windows Live years ago.



#65 Oldjim

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:55 PM

The odd thing is I have no idea how it got there

Note that Malwarebytes is perfectly happy with it

 

Just remembered something

On Feb 2nd I had an unusual popup posted elsewhere

I noticed in the bottom right bar a warning and when I clicked on it - it said "You need to restart your computer to disable UAC"
So I immediately moved UAC back to the highest setting which may have stopped something

Edited by Oldjim, 17 February 2016 - 06:01 PM.


#66 Bikerdude

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 11:20 AM

@Jim, if you need a hand with this I can teamviewer on to you PC and help you remove it. Just let me know when your around in the evenings etc.



#67 Oldjim

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 12:32 PM

No thanks

I just ran a full scan and let Kaspersky deal with it and manually removed the containing folder so it has gone now

In the worst case scenario I could have rolled back to a clean Acronis image as I have it running automatic backups every week

I will check occasionally to see if it comes back


Edited by Oldjim, 18 February 2016 - 12:34 PM.


#68 kano

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 08:45 PM

http://www.techeye.n...ng-update-power

 

Its not a bug, its a feature!



#69 stumpy

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Posted 23 February 2016 - 09:45 PM

i've got that update and its not causing any problems, although I have windows defender turned off, so its likely that that is resetting file associations for the person in that report with the custom file settings. there is an action window to set the default programs to launch what files you have, I could guess that they haven't used it, its rather hard to find. you have to right click on the start button to find the extra stuff.



#70 kano

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Posted 24 February 2016 - 03:55 PM

http://www.howtogeek...10-lock-screen/

 

... and heeerrreee come the ads!



#71 Destined

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 02:59 AM

It is no problem, if you have disabled Spotlight. At least, that is what I have done...



#72 kano

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 01:01 PM

http://www.ghacks.ne...-functionality/

 

I love it when you play dirty!



#73 Melan

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Posted 12 March 2016 - 05:21 AM

So Scumbag Win10 is trying to get on my system after repeatedly being told not to. The trouble is, it is no longer an offer, it is a countdown that starts when my computer is idle.

 

How do I circumvent these fuckers? I do not want to have Win10 on my PC now or in the foreseeable future, as I am happy with Win7 (and was happy with XP before they completely discontinued it). After their pressure sale tactics, they have also burned whatever goodwill I might have had for them (and I had a lot). This must stop.

 

(Please don't tell me to switch to Linux. I don't want to do that either.)

 

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Come the time of peril, did the ground gape, and did the dead rest unquiet 'gainst us. Our bands of iron and hammers of stone prevailed not, and some did doubt the Builder's plan. But the seals held strong, and the few did triumph, and the doubters were lain into the foundations of the new sanctum. -- Collected letters of the Smith-in-Exile, Civitas Approved

#74 Bikerdude

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Posted 12 March 2016 - 06:18 AM

Already mentioned, but here is the info again -

If your Windows10 'infection' for some random reason isn't fixed by the above, then drop me a pm and I will remote in view team viewer.



#75 Melan

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Posted 12 March 2016 - 09:10 AM

Wow, thanks! I installed the GWX control panel and switched off the upgrade options. Turn out the sneaky updater has downloaded 7 GB worth of data without my knowledge or consent. Not only did it clog my laptop (I was wondering where that HD space went), it drained my monthly DL quota, so I have been sitting with a 128kbps bandwidth cap until the 16th.

 

I am not one of the Microsoft haters, and I have been satisfied with their products, but this was a shitty thing to do. How can I trust them in the future if they try to pull this kind of crap?


Come the time of peril, did the ground gape, and did the dead rest unquiet 'gainst us. Our bands of iron and hammers of stone prevailed not, and some did doubt the Builder's plan. But the seals held strong, and the few did triumph, and the doubters were lain into the foundations of the new sanctum. -- Collected letters of the Smith-in-Exile, Civitas Approved




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