Trigger after X amount of time?

[Springheel]

I'm trying to implement a 'hints' feature, where an on-screen help message will display if a player spends too long in a particular spot. Is there a straightforward way to make something trigger ONLY after a player has spent 5 seconds inside the trigger?

 

I know I can put a wait spawnarg on the trigger, but that just makes it fire 5 seconds after the player enters, even if they have already left by that time. I don't want to show the hint if the player has already moved on.

 

 

[ERH+]

Trigger multiple, wait 2 sec between triggering --> trigger count 3 --> hint.

[grayman]

Will the player come back through the spot later?

[Sotha]

What ERH+ said, and you also use S&R system to remove the trigger_multi when the player moves away from the area.

[Springheel]

Trigger multiple, wait 2 sec between triggering --> trigger count 3 --> hint.

 

 

Very close to what I want to do...is there a way to keep it repeating every 3 counts? If I set to "repeat" "1", then the hint fires every 2 seconds.

[ERH+]

"repeat" "Defaults to zero, if 1 the trigger will reset and count up again, if 0 it will only fire once."

"count" "Number of times to be triggered before firing."

So first time fires at 0 sec when player in zone, third time fires at 4sec.

Edited October 7, 2016 by ERH+

[Springheel]

Working now.

 

There are two other circumstances where I'd like to trigger a hint, but I suspect triggers won't be able to do it...maybe scripts?

 

I'd like to trigger a hint the first time a player frobs an unconscious body.

 

I'd also like to trigger a hint the first time a player looks at a particular AI (it's a hint about his elite helmet).

[Sotha]

I'd like to trigger a hint the first time a player frobs an unconscious body.

 

Add response frob on body. This triggers a trigger_once that triggers whatever you want.

 

No idea about look-triggering, sorry.

[Springheel]

Add response frob on body. This triggers a trigger_once that triggers whatever you want.

 

 

There's no way to know which AI the player will KO and frob first...would I have to add that to all the AI? And then would it play each time they frob a new body?

[grayman]

Yes, add it to each body, but have them all target the same trigger_once. The first body frobbed will activate the trigger, and the rest won't because the trigger will be gone by then.

[Sotha]

Oh, you would add the frob trigger to live AI. I do not know if the S&R is moved from a live AI to KOd AI body.

 

If you need to have for all AI, yes, all AI should have the S&R frob trigger. Since the frob trigger triggers a trigger_once, the desired effect only once.

 

Clarification

1) frob AI -> trigger_once -> your desired effect

2) frob AI -> trigger_once (was already fired) -> nothing happens.

[grayman]

I'd also like to trigger a hint the first time a player looks at a particular AI (it's a hint about his elite helmet).

 

Obs was working with a trigger_look he made in another thread.

 

If that doesn't fit your circumstance, you could run a short script every second that checks whether the player can see the AI with the helmet. If the player's supposed to voice-over some comment, then you play that and kill the script so it only happens once.

[Springheel]

Is there a good place to read about using stim/response? The wiki article I found doesn't help much at all.

 

I used the stim/response editor to add a frob response to an AI. Then I targeted the AI at a trigger_once entity, which targetted a gui_message. But nothing happened when I KO'd and frobbed the AI.

 

The stim/response editor seems to have a field for "response effects" but I'm not sure how to use it.

 

 

edit: I also tried adding:

 

"sr_effect_5" "target"

"sr_arg1_5" "message_body"

 

But that also didn't work.

[Sotha]

1) choose AI

2) Entity -> Stim/response editor

3) response tab

4) from the drop down menu choose Frob

5) right click response effects box on the right

6) add new effect

7) double click the newly added effect

8) effect: trigger (choose from drop down menu)

9) Target (name of your trigger_once)

 

Now if the AI (when he is alive) has "frobable 1", you should give him the frob effect and thus activate the response effect trigger, which triggers the entity you named in the "target" section. This *will* work, I did it in Transaction, when the player needs to frob (not Trump style) the tortured girl to give her the go-ahead to run to safety.

 

As said earlier, I am not sure if the Stim/Response setup is forwarded to the ragdoll, if the AI is knocked down. Please test. It would be useful to know if it is forwarded to the ragdoll or not.

 

If it is NOT forwarded to the ragdoll, this S&R approach will not work and some other, more complicated setup is needed, which goes beyond my level of expertise. Sorry about that.

[Springheel]

Wow, that step 5 is really non-intuitive. I would never have tried that.

 

Now I'm stuck on step 8, because the list of effects goes off the bottom of my screen, and I can't scroll down to Trigger, nor can I type it in manually!

 

edit: I moved my taskbar and was able to select it. Moving on....

[Sotha]

I got so interested that I had to test myself.

 

I set it up as I mentioned. When the AI is alive, frobbing him switches a light on and off as it should

When I KO the guy, the light can be switched by frobbing the KO's AI ragdoll.

 

Good times, the S&R can be used to implement the feature you need. Whoo!

[Sotha]

If the S&R is acting strange on your DR version, here is the entity inspector for my setup:

http://imgur.com/a/6x7w2

[Springheel]

Yep, just got it working myself. Thanks for the help.

[Sotha]

Nice! Anytime, Spring!

[Springheel]

 

Obs was working with a trigger_look he made in another thread.

 

Looks like that does exactly what I want: http://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Triggering_events_when_looking_at_something

 

Is there any reason why we never added this to the default script folder?

[Obsttorte]

 

 

I'd like to trigger a hint the first time a player frobs an unconscious body.

I've seen you already found an answer but just for completeness, each ai has a spawnarg equip_action_script and dequip_action_script which points to scripts that gets called when the player picks up or drops a body.