Trouble with quick load

[Woodsie69]

I've just upgraded TDM v2-03 to v2-04 and I'm playing "PD 3: Erasing the Trail".

 

I've got f7 as "quicksave" and f9 as "quickload".

 

I can't figure out how the new system works, because when I press f7 the game is saved, and in the load/save menu the quicksave is saved as "hurtig gemning_0" (quick save in Danish),

 

but when quickload is pressed nothing happens - because the game is trying to load "hurtig gemning", which doesn't exist. I know that because I renamed the quicksave from the in game menu and it loads fine without the underscore and zero in the very end of the quicksave file.

 

So the problem as I can see it is that TDM saves quicksaves as "hurtig gemning_0" and loads them as "hurtig gemning" (if it exists)

 

I've got the following entry in "Darkmod.cfg": seta com_numQuickSaves "2"

 

 

I'm using Linux Mint 17.3 64 bit (Ubuntu 14.04 under the hood), and it runs from the "darkmod" folder in my "/home" folder, which means no restriction in read/write.

[Woodsie69]

Ok I've tried to alter the language to English, and the problem doesn't exist. So the problem is related to the Danish translation.

 

But am I able to change it or will I have to use English to use the quick load/save feature?

[grayman]

My test does this:

 

1 - Switch to Danish

 

2 - Save using quicksave

 

3 - Move somewhere else and save using quicksave

 

4 - Look at savegames in-game and the save/load menu only shows one quicksave: "Hurtig gemning_0"

 

5 - Look at the savegame folder and it only contains "Hurtig gemning_0.save"

 

If I repeat the above steps in English, I get "Quicksave_0.save" and "Quicksave_1.save"

 

So it appears there's a problem saving multiple quicksaves under I18N

 

I've filed bugtracker issue #4398

 

Also, switching languages mid-game is going to create a problem, because a quicksave is a quicksave is a quicksave, regardless of the language in use. If I do two quicksaves in Danish, and then two quicksaves in English, then I end up with 4 quicksaves in the savegames folder. What should happen is that the save/load code should look for savegame files that have language-independent filenames, so that if I save a game in Danish and switch to English, I can still load my Danish-saved quicksaves. That won't happen with the current code.

[grayman]

But am I able to change it or will I have to use English to use the quick load/save feature?

 

Unfortunately, it appears so. But don't switch languages in the middle of a mission.

 

Start with English and end with English.

[STiFU]

No need to change languages. Just rebind the quicksave command like this. Who needs a translation of the word Quicksave anyway? ^^

[Woodsie69]

@grayman: Thank you for filling in the bug tracker

I'm switching to English once I finish "PD 3: Erasing the Trail", and I'm not sure if I want to change back to Danish, because some translations sound weird when translated when you're used to English as I am.

I just thought that when it's available, that I should use the Danish translation. And also because it's a cool feature, and someone has taken the time to translate.

 

And...

 

 

Who needs a translation of the word Quicksave anyway? ^^

 

You said it!

IMHO the translations should only apply to the GUI of the game, and not "under the hood" - so that possible conflicts (like this bug) can be avoided in the future.

 

I mean it's not like the authors of the FM's get the goals or the intro text translated, that remains in English.

 

So people has to master some level of the English language, at least to get an idea of what the text says.

[grayman]

"Quicksave" was prolly translated because the player can see the word on the save/load screen.

 

There are different ways of handling that, though.

[grayman]

2.05 will be able to handle quick save/load in languages where "Quicksave" is translated to two or more words.

 

This was the problem.

[Woodsie69]

Ok thanks.

[Woodsie69]

Just out of curiosity couldn't that be fixed with an underscore between the two words?

[Destined]

Good point. I had recently trouble with an animation, that did not work simply for the reason that I used a space instead of an underscore.

[grayman]

Just out of curiosity couldn't that be fixed with an underscore between the two words?

Yes, but you'd have to require translators to include the underscore, when there are no other instances where they need to use an underscore instead of a space.

 

This solution lets the translators simply translate, w/o concern for how the game uses the results.