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The grat German nation has decided to not rate the Doom 3 Add On Resurrection Of Evil. The impact of this is that it is not allowed to be sold to people below age of 18. That alone wouldn't really be a problem because D3 had the same limitation. The more negative side effect is though, that the BPjM can censor it, which would mean that it wouldn't be allowed to sell it in Germany or even make ads for it. Most game mags don't even mention the name in the charts.

This is totally braindead, because the addon is just more of the D3 gameplay. I could understand if the reason were to prevent players dying from boredome :P , but considering that D3 was rated and the addon not is totally stupid.

 

But this really isn't suprising. I was watching movies lately where I was totally dumbfounded by the absolutely stupid decision how the movies were rated. One of them was a rather boring movie of aparently "american humour". The "fun" in this movie was derived from two black actors which basically only had to learn a few words to cover their dialogs. Their vocabular throughout the first twenty minutes was 80% cunt, bitch, fuck, etc.. I don't have a problem with swearing, but if the the primary "funfactor" of the movie is to use as many swearwords as possible in as short a time as possible then this is not my kind of fun. I prefer to have more sophisticated fun. Needless to say that this movie was surprisingly rated 12.

On the contrary I was watching a movie with Laurence Fishburn, where he acted an ex jail guy who befriended with a young boy (Always Outnumbered). One of the worst scenes in this movie was that another kid was killed (which you couldn't even see). Considering that there are many movies where people are killed (like Indiana Jones, or others), which are also rated 12 I totally couldn't understand why this particular movie was rated 18, because when I would have to decide which one of the movies I would allow my daughter to watch I would take Always Outnumbered any time over the other one.

Lord of the Rings was also rated 12 and you could even take 6 year olds with you as long as they were with their parents.

 

Yeah! I know I'm ranting, but I just wanted to show how the rating is done by using some extreme examples.

 

Enough now, because this censoring is one of the things I really hate in Germany. In Austria there is no such thing.

Gerhard

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Read that as well, but it doesn't really bother me because I don't like the D3 gameplay anyway ;) another strange decision of our great USK (=the guys who rate games, movies etc):

Thief DS is 12+ ! Maybe the testers did just play the first level, but I think the game doesn't "deserve" 12+, just remember the cradle level. you don't see much violence in the game, but I think it's just not a game for 12 year old kids (beside the difficulty levels) - even Thief 2 was rated 16+ and there was imho less violence and horror.

 

but all those ratings are useless anyway, since mindless parents buy their kids those games/movies nevertheless. Some weeks ago I talked to someone, who told me, that his son likes the James Bond Movies - his son is 9 years old :rolleyes: (James Bond movies are usually rated 16+ in germany)

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Actually I also would allow my daughter to watch James Bond movies. They are IMO in the same legue as Indiana Jones or Harry Potter movies, even though the settings is different. And considering that LOTR is also rated 12 DESPITE all the violence that is portraid I have absolutely no issue with Bond movies. Especially the older ones.

 

I wouldn't call that mindless parents, because I think that I know my kids better than some made up USK. I have two daughters and a son, and they are totally different from each other. Movies that my older daughter has no problems with even when she was 4, are not suitable for my younger daughter even at 6, because they are so different in their mind and how they take up a movie.

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Looking at james bond most of them are rated 12 here (uk) so its strange how different countries rate things.

 

I just hope the 1.3 patch for doom3 comes out soon (if I havnt missed it) It has skybox apparently I havnt bothred looking at the expansion yet, though I own it, as I dont think it would be a requirment of the mod.

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My sister bought her 8 year old son GTA San Andreas for Christmas. THat 's rated 18)

As far as she's concerned game = for kids, period.

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My sister bought her 8 year old son GTA San Andreas for Christmas. THat 's rated 18)

As far as she's concerned game = for kids, period.

Now that is just stupid. And its the stupid decisions like that which are drumming up all these homicide's blamed on videogames, and the right-wing nuts who startup anti-videogame campaigns.

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Actually I also would allow my daughter to watch James Bond movies. They are IMO in the same legue as Indiana Jones or Harry Potter movies, even though the settings is different. And considering that LOTR is also rated 12 DESPITE all the violence that is portraid I have absolutely no issue with Bond movies. Especially the older ones.

 

I wouldn't call that mindless parents, because I think that I know my kids better than some made up USK. I have two daughters and a son, and they are totally different from each other. Movies that my older daughter has no problems with even when she was 4, are not suitable for my younger daughter even at 6, because they are so different in their mind and how they take up a movie.

I know that movies like James Bond, Indiana Jones etc. don't show you much uncensored, brutal violence and that a great part of the movies are quite ironic and comic. But that's exactly my point - when you watch a James Bond movie you're laughing about all that violence and the uber cool Mr. Bond, who kills all the bad guys with a cool "slogan" on his lips. And that's why the films are rated 16+ - it's almost a glorification of violence, which has no effect on adults, but I think it CAN have negative effects on kids.

 

that's just my humble opinion on this issue ;)

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I know what you mean. And that's exactly why I say that I have to consider my child as a parent. I know my child, and I know which of them I can allow to see what. It's not that I say all my kids may see this, because they are quite different, and movies that are ok for one daughter is not suitable of rmy other daughter.

 

But I can give you another example. Last Nicolaus there was Polar Express in the cinema. It was rated 6. This was rather annoying, because we were going to ride a train and I thought this would be a nice idea to watch this movie, and on the next day we are riding with such a train ourself. When I went to the cinema, they asked how old my younger one was. She was 5 so she was denied which was absolutely ridicoulous. When I complained they said something like "It is your decision if you allow your daughter to watch SUCH movies at home, but you are not allowed to enter the cinema." I mean. They were acting as if this was a zombie movie I wanted to force on my daughter. Now I watched this movie with my kids and there was aboslutely no problem, but I knew that already in that case anway.

At the same time, my daughter would be allowed next year to watch Lord Of The Rings in the cinema provided that I go with her. This is absolutely ridicoulous, because LOTR is MUCH more violent, and I wouldn't allow her to watch this, because I know that she cant stand it. My other daughter is quite different, because even when she was six, I could watch with her LOTR in the cinema and she had no problems with it.

 

When I was a kid I loved to see Western or Bud Spencer movies. They are also violent, if you think about it, but I never thought of them as being violent, because they were fun. James Bond is pretty similar, even though this is more "real" then Bud Spencer movies. The bottom line is, when I know my kids, I know what they can handle and what not. But these laws are IMO pretty stupid, because this is just censorship. It's ok, if the cinema uses this as a recomendation and to not let them in when they are alone, to be on the safe side, because the cinema doesn't know my kids. But if I as a parent decide that a particular movie is suitable, then they should let me in, provided this is not a clear case. If I would go into Return of The Dead with my 6 year old daughter I could understand this. I could even have accepted in case of LOTR, but Polar Express??? Come on. This is just patronizing for the sake of patronizing and not because there is a real reason behind it.

Gerhard

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