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#151 kingsal

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 04:19 PM

FYI- I have asked the team for some help with the clipping issues over in the beta thread. Please let me know if you have clipping problems. It also might be helpful to know what kind of hardware you are using (low/mid/high) and what version of TDM you are in. 

 

Thanks!


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#152 Abusimplea

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 08:18 PM

The mentioned beta thread


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#153 Anderson

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 07:03 AM

 

 

 

 

There seems to be something fishy going on here. Maybe something has changed in 2.06?

 

Very credible and likely concern. 


 "I really perceive that vanity about which most men merely prate — the vanity of the human or temporal life. I live continually in a reverie of the future. I have no faith in human perfectibility. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active — not more happy — nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago. The result will never vary — and to suppose that it will, is to suppose that the foregone man has lived in vain — that the foregone time is but the rudiment of the future — that the myriads who have perished have not been upon equal footing with ourselves — nor are we with our posterity. I cannot agree to lose sight of man the individual, in man the mass."...

 

 

- 2 July 1844 letter to James Russell Lowell from Edgar Allan Poe.

 


#154 AluminumHaste

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 07:05 AM

And I played your beta with multiple iterations of 2.06 Beta. I was also playing with SVN Trunk, and never got stuck. I did have some performance issues in the huge open area, but it was worth it. Super awesome mission.


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#155 Filizitas

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 07:19 AM

Yes, i only too had that problem here.

it must be extreme heavy, like gravity change, or physics update.

Different collision matrix or movement update.

 

You guys do realize this has something todo with the ropes glitching out right? 2.06 invented all kinds of new bugs.


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#156 Abusimplea

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 03:18 PM

Yes, i only too had that problem here.

it must be extreme heavy, like gravity change, or physics update.

Different collision matrix or movement update.

 

You guys do realize this has something todo with the ropes glitching out right? 2.06 invented all kinds of new bugs.

I got stuck a lot in the Cauldron and maybe the rope arrows wiggle a lot around more than in 2.05 before getting climbable (but not sure about that) - but they did not glitch to the point where they would not become climbable in my countless hours of playing the 2.06 beta (i had to reduce my TDM time a lot before 2.06 became stable though).



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 12:37 PM

Making progress on a fix for these clipping issues. Stay tuned. I should be able to get a new version of the map out by the end of the month (fingers crossed).


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#158 kingsal

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 01:15 PM

I got stuck a lot in the Cauldron and maybe the rope arrows wiggle a lot around more than in 2.05 before getting climbable (but not sure about that) - but they did not glitch to the point where they would not become climbable in my countless hours of playing the 2.06 beta (i had to reduce my TDM time a lot before 2.06 became stable though).

 

I looked into this and it seems there was some error made when saving out ragdoll locations when I built the map. It appears the engine also saved out these properties to the ropes. Not sure why this is only showing up in 2.06. Regardless, It's been fixed  :)  


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#159 Abusimplea

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 01:24 PM

 

I looked into this and it seems there was some error made when saving out ragdoll locations when I built the map. It appears the engine also saved out these properties to the ropes. Not sure why this is only showing up in 2.06. Regardless, It's been fixed  :)  

Ragdoll positions? I did not notice bodies lying around. Did i miss something?



#160 kingsal

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 03:56 PM

Ragdoll positions? I did not notice bodies lying around. Did i miss something?

 

Ah sorry I thought you were talking about the environmental ropes. I actually found a bug with those. Not sure about whats happening with rope arrows in 2.06 though.


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#161 Abusimplea

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:12 PM

 

Ah sorry I thought you were talking about the environmental ropes. I actually found a bug with those. Not sure about whats happening with rope arrows in 2.06 though.

Luckily i experienced no bugs with any ropes yet.

Rope arrows work fine - i just got the impression that they wiggle around a bit longer and more erratic before comming to rest and becomming climbable in 2.06. But i am not sure about that anymore - could also be that i just see more frames of the unfolding process of rope arrows now than in 2.05...



#162 Filizitas

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 02:18 AM

Tht rope bug isnt a bug in the mission. Its in other missions aswell.

Check out mandrasola? Dont know the exact name, was an old test map.


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#163 Springheel

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 07:44 AM

And what is the bug, exactly?



#164 Filizitas

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 08:56 AM

The rope when climbed starts to freak out in all kinds of directions. At that point its partly unusable and it can throw the player into the wall.

I tried to make a screenie of that but had no save for that randomly available. And the mandrasola mission just glitched out heavily. 


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#165 AluminumHaste

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 09:06 AM

And the mandrasola mission just glitched out heavily. 

 

When talking about bugs that should get looked at and fixed, it is INCREDIBLY useless to say "glitched out heavily". WTF does that even mean? Did it crash? Did the snow turn into zombies? Did an AI fall through the world? Are scripts not working? Is it a graphical bug? Was your screen black or flashing? Did you touch a physics object like a bottle and it killed you?

Please be specific when talking about bugs.


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I always assumed I'd taste like boot leather.

 

#166 kingsal

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 04:40 PM

 

When talking about bugs that should get looked at and fixed, it is INCREDIBLY useless to say "glitched out heavily". WTF does that even mean? Did it crash? Did the snow turn into zombies? Did an AI fall through the world? Are scripts not working? Is it a graphical bug? Was your screen black or flashing? Did you touch a physics object like a bottle and it killed you?

Please be specific when talking about bugs.

Ah yes, all of those things. Lets get this logged and tracked once we know more.

 

Filizitas - Since this is a mod bug and not related to Cauldron. Go ahead and start a thread over in TDM Tech Support so these guys can track it and get it fixed. Provide some screenshots or even videos if you can.

 

In regards to post #158. When I went to look at the env_ropes in my mission, they weren't showing up in the editor. (Using DR 2.6 x64 and TDM 2.6 x64). It looks like when I saved out my ragdoll positions in the engine it also saved out the bone locations of ropes? Not sure if this was part of the reason why they weren't showing up.(map was built in 2.05)  I'll test this out and start a new thread in Tech support. 


Edited by kingsal, 23 June 2018 - 05:03 PM.

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#167 Philflound

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 09:46 PM

I have to say I enjoy this mission but I've run into a few glitches. One was a rope arrow that I put into cross beams that were above an obelisk vanished when I was climbing back down when I jumped off or got too low. 

 

Second and this is extremely frustrating is when I move anywhere, randomly I get stuck in a spot and can't move from it. This can happen anywhere and I'm constantly reloading. Any advice?



#168 kingsal

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 11:08 PM

I have to say I enjoy this mission but I've run into a few glitches. One was a rope arrow that I put into cross beams that were above an obelisk vanished when I was climbing back down when I jumped off or got too low. 

 

Second and this is extremely frustrating is when I move anywhere, randomly I get stuck in a spot and can't move from it. This can happen anywhere and I'm constantly reloading. Any advice?

Hmm the rope arrow bug has happened to a few people. I will look into this.

 

Yeah, lots of people have been getting stuck in this mission (especially since 2.06). I have fixed the problem and will have and updated version out soon!

 

The next update is version 2.0 so it will have a ton of fixes:

- Fix for getting stuck

- Overall better lighting and readability

- Balancing tweaks

- Slightly better performance in certain areas.

- High res intro video

- Lots of other minor stuff.

 

So if you can wait, its worth it. Unfortunately, the update wont work with your saves sadly. 


Edited by kingsal, 08 July 2018 - 11:11 PM.

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#169 Abusimplea

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 12:32 AM

Second and this is extremely frustrating is when I move anywhere, randomly I get stuck in a spot and can't move from it. This can happen anywhere and I'm constantly reloading. Any advice?

Spamming the mantle key gets you unstuck in most situations. When it doesn't work, type "noclip" in the debug console to make your avatar non-solid, move a bit away and type "noclip" into the console again to make your avatar solid again.







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