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If you're over 18 and live in the UK, get off your apathetic behind and vote. ;)

 

Luckily that's all the effort you'll have to go to, 'cause I'm here to tell you how to vote: Plaid Cymru in Wales, Scottish National Party in Scotland, Green in England (or Lib Dem if you're going to vote tactically). I'm not familar with politics in Northern Ireland, so just vote for the party that supports 24 hour drinking, or at least supports preserving the local language and culture.

 

Otherwise don't vote, 'cause then mine counts for more. :ph34r:

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I already voted, at about 10oclock.

 

As for who to vote for why green have less of their own policies than labour, or the new conservative party that it is.

 

I cant say Im a fan of Charles Kennedy as a leader, he is missing somthing, but he is a sensible fellow and I agree with more of the libral policies this time than anyone elses.

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I agree with Green about their poicies on the environment, though their aversion to new technology is a bit mad.

 

Lib Dems should hopefully do well this election. I almost voted for them, because they are neck and neck with Labour in Cardiff Central. Charles Kennedy isn't as charismatic as the other two, but this isn't a personality contest.

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Well at least you get an elected second house. Ours is hereditary or appointed by the pm (fictionaly the queen) so its full of cronies. It can also be ignored thanks to the parliament act, so its toothless in both senses of the word.

 

At least Wales and Scotland have some control over their own countries now

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Oh he is more honest. I’ve spoken to him a couple of times and exchanged some letters. He certainly can do the job, but he seems to lack the something that would make him a great leader. Perhaps its just me.

 

Its more than long enough since we had a liberal government, there hasn’t been once since 1918, and that was a coalition. The last true liberal government ended at the start of ww1 iirc

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I heard that there is a supposedly widespread practice of "vote swapping" where you "swap votes" with someone in an opposing party in another district when you know you can't elect your candidate of choice, but you want to keep a particular party OUT of office.

 

How widespread is this actually in the UK?

 

One American commentator had this to say about vote swapping in general: "It's like sex when you're a teenager. A lot of people talk about it, but very few people actually do it."

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Its not that uncommon actually, much like teenage sex in the uk actually, we apparently have one of the highest rates in the world. Perhaps they are going their bit to stem off a pension crisis by suring up the younger population? :lol: Im sure that is a pension reform Bush could get though.

 

A far example would be when Micheal portilo was blocked in what the tories thought was a safe seat. It is more common in the local elections as far as I know.

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I love election day, it gives me my right not to vote, which I always exercise.

Considering the gaggle of useless fuckers we have over here who are more interested in their petty squabbles than running the country it's a waste of time voting. Northern Ireland is run by anonymous civil servants.

Civillisation will not attain perfection until the last stone, from the last church, falls on the last priest.

- Emil Zola

 

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I love election day, it gives me my right not to vote, which I always exercise.

Considering the gaggle of useless fuckers we have over here who are more interested in their petty squabbles than running the country it's a waste of time voting. Northern Ireland is run by anonymous civil servants.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Considering the gaggle of useless fuckers we have over here who are more interested in their petty squabbles than running the country it's a waste of time voting. Northern Ireland is run by anonymous civil servants.

Seriously, I hate this mindset.

 

Not voting because you don't like the people who run the country? That's the point of voting.

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That's the point of voting.

 

It's a waste of time to just choose the least stupid and corrupt candidate. Why vote if you don't like any of them? Here in Canada we have the ancient 'first past the post' system, which makes it even more pointless to vote.

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It's a waste of time to just choose the least stupid and corrupt candidate.

Oh really? So if I have one total retard and another unlikeable soul running, there's just no point voting for the unlikeable soul to stop the total retard getting in? That makes sense. Hey, since we're hamstrung by the limitations of technology we might just give up on this mod.

 

If you can't see a reason to vote for any candidate, then you just aren't paying attention to politics. And even if there isn't one worthwhile candidate in your constituency you can always postal vote your way into another. :ph34r:

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So if I have one total retard and another unlikeable soul running, there's just no point voting for the unlikeable soul to stop the total retard getting in?

 

So the retard screws you because he's stupid, and the other guy screws you because he's a prick. What difference does it make in the end?

 

We have that very same choice right now here. We have the corrupt party, the extremist party, and the third party that can never win. Some choice.

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The choice there is to do what I and my friends do; go out and do something about it yourselves. ;)

 

And does it matter if one guy is a 'prick'? He's there to run his constituancy; you don't have to have tea with him.

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Oh sure, I believe in doing something about it, just not voting in most cases. But I live in a country where 35% of the population can elect a majority government. It can definitely create some lack of faith in the political system.

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Oh sure, I believe in doing something about it, just not voting in most cases. But I live in a country where 35% of the population can elect a majority government. It can definitely create some lack of faith in the political system.

Not voting just makes that figure all the more lopsided.

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Seriously, I hate this mindset.

 

Not voting because you don't like the people who run the country? That's the point of voting.

Didn't you read my post, you Welsh tawt?

Civil servants run Northern Ireland, and you don't get to vote for them. Politicians here just squabble between themselves for brownie points and dont' have any power.

 

Aside fornm that, 90% of people in this country make the same sectarian vote every time. Issues to not matter here.

Civillisation will not attain perfection until the last stone, from the last church, falls on the last priest.

- Emil Zola

 

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or at least supports preserving the local language and culture.

The BNP? :lol:

 

I voted LibDem - partly because we had no green candidate.

B)

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Not voting just makes that figure all the more lopsided.

 

Maybe, but voting doesn't change the statistic...just means you and 65% of the other voters wasted a trip to the polls.

 

I'd rather stay home and get something done.

 

The only way to have any effect on an election is to do something that makes a big impact on lots of people. One vote is useless. If you can affect lots of people's votes, then that's worth doing.

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The BNP? :lol:

Yuk no. They're just racist, and aren't protecting a culture at all (since the English culture is so dominant). The Welsh culture could be wiped out within my lifetime, and needs protecting.

 

Imagine everything written in English being flushed down the drain; Beowulf, Shakespeare, Larkin, Pratchett, the Beatles, Elvis, Star Wars, everything ... that's the threat facing the Welsh culture now, a language with poetry dating back hundreds of years before the English language even existed.

 

Didn't you read my post, you Welsh tawt?

Civil servants run Northern Ireland, and you don't get to vote for them. Politicians here just squabble between themselves for brownie points and dont' have any power.

 

Sorry. As I said, I don't know aything about NI politics. You could at least spoil your ballot in protest at this ridicilous state of affairs.

 

One vote is useless.

 

But if everyone who said that one vote is useless voted you could get something done. ;)

 

Anyway, it seems that both you and oDD have slightly more messed up and disillusioning systems of 'democracy' than I thought, so I am slightly less enraged and apalled by your voting apathy. :D

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