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Oh lordy...

 

EDIT: I don't know anything about him, other than what you say (which is why I feel sorry for you), but the first Google page I looked at said this, which cracked me up:

 

Stephen Joseph Harper, PC, MP, MA (born April 30, 1959) is leader of the Conservative Party of Canada and Leader of the Official Opposition; as of January 23, 2006, he is the Prime Minister-designate of Canada. He remains, however, a douche-bag.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Harper

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From Wikipedia:

	* Someone who is annoying, bossy or embarrassing.
* Someone who is stupid, intellectually challenged or mentally deranged but less than clinically insane.
* Someone who is unintelligently lying or scamming.
* Someone who is arrogant, elitist or snobby.
* Someone whom you don't like.
* Someone who is socially inept.

 

Seems like a perfect translation of the ancient word Pol-it-ician. :)

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At least he didn't get a majority. Now at least we'll have a year or so where he can't really do much damage, but at the same time he and his redneck ministers won't be able to hide from the media the way they did during the campaign. The moment they start straying from the carefully crafted script they were given, their true colours will come out.

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Well I hope you at least voted. Be thankful you haven't already gone through 6 years of that crap...

 

OH...I voted alright. I also happened to catch this candid picture of Stephen Harper when he thought nobody was looking. I'm just biding my time until I unleash this upon the media. ;)

 

harperdog.jpg

 

 

...and a few moments later.

 

 

harperdog2.jpg

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I'm sure each of the 35000 people who went out and voted for the Green party (yet elected no one) are really satisfied that their vote counted for something.

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I wonder how many people who think there's no point voting contributed to this sorry outcome. ;)

 

That's crap. If you're voting simply to keep someone out of power rather than because you want someone in power, then the whole system's fucked.

Civillisation will not attain perfection until the last stone, from the last church, falls on the last priest.

- Emil Zola

 

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I'm sure each of the 35000 people who went out and voted for the Green party (yet elected no one) are really satisfied that their vote counted for something.

 

They should feel satisfied indeed! The more votes such parties get the more 'green' policies the other parties will adopt to gain more votes and attract the general consensus. Due to a shift towards the more liberal and enviromental parties in the 2005 UK election the Conservative party are now saying things like this.

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I voted Green. I only hope that in the future when the baby boomers die off, parties like the NDP and Green will rise while PC dies off.

 

EDIT: That asshole better give us the GST drop he promised. No renegging on that.

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The more votes such parties get the more 'green' policies the other parties will adopt to gain more votes and attract the general consensus

 

I know that's what the "your vote counts" camp likes to believe.

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I recently read an interesting discussion of the Canadian elections. My understanding is that the Liberal party is being punished by the voters for some scandals they were involved in. Although the Conservatives are evil they will only be able to push the Canadian electorate so far before they will scream. The majority of Canadians, even those who voted Conservative, hold to liberal values such as strong social spending, safety nets for the disadvantaged, and a more inclusive society. This is all second hand info obviously, any Canadians care to comment?

 

But please dont think this moron is a clone of Bush, Bush is conservative in name only. No real conservative would send American forces around the world on half a dozen doomed missions or would happily sanction the burgeoning power of the American police state. True Conservatives seek smaller government and government spending, more individual liberties at the expense of social relationships, a strong separation of church and state, and in general a weakening of centralized (federal) power. Bush has done none of these, although he pays some lip service to some of these ideas.

 

Its probably more accurate to portray Bush and Co. as the radical right/proto-fascists. Their use of religious/nationalisitic arguments to justify their atrocities, their constant push for increased police powers and civilian survelliance, their willingness to swat aside international niceities between allies and make stark demands, and their overt connections to corporate power place them closer to Europes fascist parties than anything else on the modern political spectrum. In fact, some of the Presidents loudest critics are conservative Dems and Repubs here in the U.S., rumor has it that Bush Sr. and Jr. are no longer speaking and that the father has been hyper-critical of many of the Monkey Kings moves.

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I know that's what the "your vote counts" camp likes to believe.

Lucky that it's true then, isn't it! IIRC any arguments otherwise have pretty much been dealt with and thrown out in two threads on this forum already.

 

That's crap. If you're voting simply to keep someone out of power rather than because you want someone in power, then the whole system's fucked.

Care to suggest a better one? The 'oDDity is King of all' model where no one but you gets a say?

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Couldn't be any worse than democracy.

It doesn't really matter what method you use to appoint a leader as long as he's the right guy for the job.

Democracy just seems to be very poor way of doing it, considering the trash that ususally floats to the top.

When was the last US president who wasn't either a crook, a pervert or just a plain idiot. THe UK isn't any better off ether.

Civillisation will not attain perfection until the last stone, from the last church, falls on the last priest.

- Emil Zola

 

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What surprises me is that people believe getting 'better' parties into power will change anything, as if they truly are any better.

 

Politicians are all corrupt, they're all criminals, they're all self serving humans (flawed - not gods) who care about today and their paycheck and power only, and don't give a damn about what really should be in the world. That's why they're running for power! Would anyone truly benevolent and humble and wise, run for power? This wonderous green party or whatever other name is filled in, would soon bow to powers that be, influences they should fight, and their selfish needs to stay in power - just like everyone else who had good intentions as they ran. They'd be good at one thing, perhaps environmentalism, and terrible at something else, perhaps foreign policy or protection of the nation.

 

When is the last time you can remember a good leader? No, a truly good one, not someone who "fixed this or that" but screwed up something else badly. They don't exist. The whole system doesn't work well at all. Humans have been trying to figure out how to do it for thousands of years and still don't have it right.

 

Negative? Or realistic?

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Oh yes it could. Try living under a king, or under the rule of some mad religious leader, or a crazy dictator. Until I got out of the UK and did some travelling I didn't realise how good we have it.

 

My point is that it's the person., not the way he was chosen that matters. You get good and bad people with any system.

Civillisation will not attain perfection until the last stone, from the last church, falls on the last priest.

- Emil Zola

 

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Realistic I would say.

 

I guess politicians who are doing it for the good, will not get far. Simply because there are enough already in powere who can easily prevent that, so either they have to play according to the rules, or they will never get enough power to make any difference.

Gerhard

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Yeah, but what exactly is "good", anyway?

 

Obviously many dictators think that they are doing "good" - in their definition of the word. Perhaps not obviously "corrupt" ones, but ones that have strong ideologies - like Stalin, or Fidel Castro.

 

Now many people would disagree with their view of good, but does that make it any less valid than any other world view?

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