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#1 New Horizon

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 10:30 AM

Hello.

It has been awhile since we have indulged in a video, so we felt that now would be a good time.

Before you watch, there are a few things you need to take into consideration.

1. This was an internal video made by Dram, but we decided to package it up and release it publicly.
2. Everything you see is a Work In Progress. Nothing has been completely tweaked or finalized.
3. You will notice plenty of glitches. (particle effect issues, some footstep sound problems) Weíre aware of them.
4. The AI are nowhere near finished.


That being said, we wanted to show you how far weíve come. It has been a very long journey thus far, and we still have a long way to go if we are to make our 1.0 release date of December 2008.

Could we use help? Yes. Do we hope this video will inspire those of you with the required skills to help. Yes, we hope it does.

Ideally, we could use help from some experienced programmers in getting the AI up to speed sooner than later. We certainly have people with the necessary skills to complete the task, but if we can get it done sooner, then we will have much more time for tweaking.

So, I'll shut up now. Here is a lower res version of the video. If anyone can host a higher res version, please le t me know. The high res version is around 50 megs.
http://video.google....4...90&hl=en-CA

Higher Res version.

http://bloodgate.com/mirrors/tdm/

http://www.shadowdar..._BLACKHEART.zip

http://www.thirdfilm..._BLACKHEART.avi

#2 woah

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 11:03 AM

Wow! That's some really awesome stuff! It makes me feel so nostalgic; you've all done a great job at capturing the old feel (especially with that great ambience and music). I'll definitely be checking back to watch the higher resolution version.

I really wish I could help in some way (truly, to be involved in such a project would be a privilege), but programming a game is a whole different animal to me, and I'd probably be more of a bother to the other programmers than anything else.

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 11:11 AM

Wow. :o
Now we're starting to play a game here.
WIP stuff aside, this was all levels of awesome.
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Posted 22 October 2007 - 11:31 AM

Sweetness!...very motivating :D
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Posted 22 October 2007 - 12:47 PM

I certainly hope the voices are WIP too :P

I was reminded of the Bonehoard during the first couple of minutes, infused with an atmospheric sense similar to the ĎAir Filled Tunnelsí in Call of Cthulhu. I hope that map makes its way into the 1.0 release package.

The music and ambient SFX are top notch. Props to your sound guy for the excellent work :)

Is it possible at the 1:58 mark to add an animation + environment manipulation to allow the player to brush aside the overgrowth thatís in their way w/ the sword?
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Posted 22 October 2007 - 12:57 PM

I certainly hope the voices are WIP too :P


Yes. They're the placeholder vocal set for the programmers to work with.

Is it possible at the 1:58 mark to add an animation + environment manipulation to allow the player to brush aside the overgrowth thatís in their way w/ the sword?


Likely possible in some form, but I don't know for certain.

We don't want to get into discussing technical issues in this thread though, just enjoy the video for what it is. :) If we don't address such visual suggestions, I'm sure someone will after the 1.0 release.

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 12:58 PM

The high res version is around 35 megs.

350, right? Unless there's a newer version from the original.

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 01:01 PM

350, right? Unless there's a newer version from the original.


The original was really only meant for me, but Dram posted it in the forums. There is smaller version available that is 50 megs. Coming soon.

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 01:44 PM

Higher Res version available here.

http://bloodgate.com/mirrors/tdm/

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 02:44 PM

Higher Res version available here.

http://bloodgate.com/mirrors/tdm/


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Posted 22 October 2007 - 04:59 PM

I'd be happy to host a 350meg version for a while :)

The video looks really great, I like the craggy path
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Posted 22 October 2007 - 05:19 PM

I'd be happy to host a 350meg version for a while :)

The video looks really great, I like the craggy path


Nah, no need for the full 350 meg. If you would like to host the 50 meg version that I posted though, that would be snazzy.

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 05:29 PM

Here a new direct link for the 48.8 MB version, feel free to update the main post :)

http://www.shadowdar..._BLACKHEART.zip

I'll take a look at the large 300 meg version - if it's a marked improvement in clarity I may host it too.

EDIT - The huge version seems too dark, and I think it is clearer and sharper but the version above is pretty good already so I think I'll just stick with it.
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Posted 22 October 2007 - 09:08 PM

Just downloaded the 50 MB version. Wow! Thatís Thief 4 right there, Triple A quality nailed :) Cheers to whomever designed the Hammerite gears architecture at the front of the manse.

I seriously hope some of the team stay around after 1.0 release and put their energies towards a story campaign.



PS what was that croaking starting at 3:25?

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 10:33 PM

I really wish I could help in some way (truly, to be involved in such a project would be a privilege), but programming a game is a whole different animal to me, and I'd probably be more of a bother to the other programmers than anything else.

I'd encourage anyone who would like to help but thinks they're not good enough to apply anyway. There are sometimes little niggly tasks that need to be done and take a bit of time but aren't hugely difficult. It's a waste to assign the most skilled team members to such tasks, so it's useful to have other people available for those tasks.

If someone isn't good enough then they'll most likely get weeded out by the application process, so don't worry that you'll get in the way. Basically, the more hands on deck the better. :)
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Posted 22 October 2007 - 10:58 PM

I'd love to be a betamapper -- you can look at my area in The Chain Project T2 FM to see how I build -- but unfortunately my rig won't run Doom 3. The day that I get a new computer, hopefully not to far away, I'll apply.

I can still make models, though. This should be good motivation to finish off my lute and learn the ropes modeling. Maybe I can even learn how to animate them ... Lightwave can do that, can't it?

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#17 New Horizon

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 11:00 PM

I'd love to be a betamapper -- you can look at my area in The Chain Project T2 FM to see how I build -- but unfortunately my rig won't run Doom 3. The day that I get a new computer, hopefully not to far away, I'll apply.

I can still make models, though. This should be good motivation to finish off my lute and learn the ropes modeling. Maybe I can even learn how to animate them ... Lightwave can do that, can't it?


What kind of system are you running? Doom 3 scales fairly well.

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 01:39 AM

Inspiron 5100 laptop, XP, Pentium 4 CPU, 2.66 GHz, 384 MB Ram, Radeon 7500 video card.

I don't know that it can't run. I just found this quote (link) ...

System 2: P4 3GHz with 1GB of RAM and ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon 7500 -- DOOM3 runs in 640x480 low resolution with a 1-2 frames per second display rate; totally unplayable.


... and it made me worried.
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Posted 23 October 2007 - 01:44 AM

That system should be able to run D3. Maybe not on the highest settings, but I played it on a similar system to that a while back - athlon XP 2600+, 512mb RAM, 6600GT

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 01:46 AM

Really? Ok ... I'll at least get a copy and see what happens, then.
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Posted 23 October 2007 - 06:30 AM

Very Dark Project, I expected the Lost City to pop up behind a corner. All it needs are a few belchers. :)

The guards look a bit odd when they try to turn their heads and walk at the same time. They sort of stick their arms up as if they're doing some sort of dance. The monkey, maybe.

#22 Aspirin

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 07:24 AM

Great video ! It's very promising ...

#23 New Horizon

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 09:29 AM

Really? Ok ... I'll at least get a copy and see what happens, then.


I originally played doom 3 on an AMD 2000xp(1.6ghz), 512mb ram, and a crappy geforce FX 5200. Ran fairly well on medium to low settings. TDM will run a bit slower since we've got more AI operations happening, but it should still be playable.

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 03:11 PM

4. The AI are nowhere near finished.

And the AI animations too, I hope.

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 03:11 PM

you guys, a Geforce 6600GT and even the crappy FX 5200 are way stronger than the ancient wimpy Radeon 7500.

Here are a couple links for comparison:
http://www.pantherpr.....on 7500.shtml
http://www.hardcorew...eview-106-2.htm


I seriously doubt Doom 3 will run on that, or if it does it probably will be the slideshow he quoted.
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