My map progress

[pataran]

Hey Dark Mod team, just giving you a look at some of my level coming together. I'm still trying to get beta mapper status because I'm in dire need of textures and props. Also is it normal for you guys to get "lag" in the editor? My map is starting to get pretty large.

Last but not least, any of you seen New Horizon around? I've sent a pm and some mail to dark mod but haven't received a response in 2 or 3 days. Anyway it's hard to really see the whole map from one pic. So far I only applied bare minimum textures to just get a "feel", so its not official and need at least 2 more sections of brushwork done before I can even start detail, AI, and constructing the mission.

[pataran]

Here it is

[Baddcog]

Cool, good to see another Taffer diggin in!

[Fidcal]

Very promising. Hard to tell from the editor shot but the front looks good. Be nice to see in-game shots when fully textured and lit. Hope to see more of this as you progress it. NH is taking time out BTW. Keep posting as we'd like to see more of this.

[Flanders]

Against lag in dark radiant:

You can use region to turn off certain area's (view>region) or layers (default button M), add to layer by selection and RMB.

[HappyCheeze]

Yeah lag is pretty common when maps get huge. Wait till you start dmapping them

 

Looking very nice.

[Tels]

Looks nice, but as Fidcal said, would want to see it in game textured and lit.

 

Just some general tips:

 

* You can use the SL assets to develop your mission, that should give you much more things to play with. The rest of the mod isn't that much more (its hard to say how much, but we included quite a lot of things in SL

* I'd advise you to stop adding to the map and try to get it into thegame ASAP. Otherwise, you will run into a lot of problems that might need a complete redesign of some parts and you will waste a lot of time, possible burning you out. And we don't want that

 

Especially important are textures and lights, to get a feel, as well as visportals (otherwise the performance will be bad).

 

Here is some info:

 

http://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php/Visportals (the article is a bit lenghty and could use a cutting down and a few images, tho, but it explains everything)

 

if you map is not designed with them in mind, you might run into trouble properly sep parts of your map.

 

Hope that helps and we see your map soon

[pataran]

Looks nice, but as Fidcal said, would want to see it in game textured and lit.

 

Just some general tips:

 

* You can use the SL assets to develop your mission, that should give you much more things to play with. The rest of the mod isn't that much more (its hard to say how much, but we included quite a lot of things in SL

* I'd advise you to stop adding to the map and try to get it into thegame ASAP. Otherwise, you will run into a lot of problems that might need a complete redesign of some parts and you will waste a lot of time, possible burning you out. And we don't want that

 

Especially important are textures and lights, to get a feel, as well as visportals (otherwise the performance will be bad).

 

Here is some info:

 

http://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php/Visportals (the article is a bit lenghty and could use a cutting down and a few images, tho, but it explains everything)

 

if you map is not designed with them in mind, you might run into trouble properly sep parts of your map.

 

Hope that helps and we see your map soon

Just on cue, hey guys my map crashes d3 when it tries to compile. Does anyone know how to debug it? Greebo help?

[HappyCheeze]

Just on cue, hey guys my map crashes d3 when it tries to compile. Does anyone know how to debug it? Greebo help?

Does it totally crash you to the desktop?

 

Or does it hang in the console and spits errors at you?

 

Help us, help you

[pataran]

Does it totally crash you to the desktop?

 

Or does it hang in the console and spits errors at you?

 

Help us, help you

 

It crashes to desktop =(

[Komag]

Maybe you might try deleting half the map, saving under a new name, then try compiling that half. Then the other half.

 

Too bad you didn't constantly compile and test it all along the way, then you would know at what point it stopped working and you would know what you recently did to break it. But now it could be anything!

[pataran]

Maybe you might try deleting half the map, saving under a new name, then try compiling that half. Then the other half.

 

Too bad you didn't constantly compile and test it all along the way, then you would know at what point it stopped working and you would know what you recently did to break it. But now it could be anything!

 

I'll try that if all else fails, hopefully its just a bad entity or something. Lets hope its not worst case because this is my first real map ever for any mod and it would shatter my soul to have to redo all that work.

I saw Greebo on another thread fix a crash error by debugging. Maybe he knows how?

[HappyCheeze]

Too bad you didn't constantly compile and test it all along the way, then you would know at what point it stopped working and you would know what you recently did to break it. But now it could be anything!

 

This is really something mappers need to get in the habit of, fast.

[greebo]

I can have a look at the map if you upload it somewhere.

 

As for the DarkRadiant lag: as you're using three orthoviews this is most likely due to a setting in the preferences: Go to Edit > Preferences, select Settings > Orthoview and then uncheck "Update Views on Camera Movement".

[Komag]

That's why I said save with a new name. I'm not suggesting you lose any work. Just TEST deleting half the map. Then if that half works you know the problem is in the other half, and you still have the full version.

[greebo]

@pataran: Please upload the map to one of those free hosting sites, like megaupload or whatever. For the moment being I prefer to not handle this via PM or E-Mail.

[pataran]

Ok guys, I fixed the problem myself by restoring and reinstalling dark mod. I have one question though, I put St. Lucia's textures and models into Thieves Den so I could access the content but somehow I think it corrupted my skybox. I have the thieves den skybox pasted into my map but when the map is loaded the skybox is black and flickers. The outside box is chalked and the inner box is skybox texture(pointer). Did replacing files corrupt the skybox? Or is there another possible cause for a black skybox? An extra note is when I place ambient light it does show blue ambience like when the skybox was working. Any hints?

[greebo]

Well, it's generally not a good idea to just copy the Saintlucia contents over Thief's Den, and it's actually not necessary either. Saintlucia is including all the stuff from Thief's Den out of the box.

 

We're working on a "Getting started mapping with Saintlucia assets" tutorial right now, expect it to be published on the wiki soon.