Goldwell

This is a discussion for a forum topic, but...

1) Whatever Underworld ends up as, it will be a B title, not an AAA one.

2) Assume a generous 1.5 year dev cycle for both games plus half a year of preparations for the next KS. That's 3.5 years before it even becomes a possibility.

3) Thief just had a 100-million-dollars AAA game. It's unlikely anybody could pay for the license.

4) Modern engines have real problems with editing. TDM still does...

...BSP, which is more newbie-friendly.

5) We should instead convince the Otherside people to *join usssss now* and make a new Thiefy game with TDM as a base.

join us now

The actual loading times are really fast even on my ye olde HDD (5 - 15 seconds). I could imagine them being a breeze on an SSD.

unless loading is tied to framerate ala... consoles

I'm having a blast playing Thief... I'm suffering from sleep-deprivation, haha!

@lost_soul but they tried that already with Windows 8 and I don't think it turned out the best. I think its good to keep the desktop and tablet world separate. Just detect when a keyboard and mouse are plugged in and use normal desktop mode and if a touch screen is detected boot into the touch interface. That way everyone's happy

And of course having the option to switch between the two regardless of which peripherals are available shouldn't be too hard either. Regardless it shall be interesting to see what Microsoft turn out with the final build

could be true

Im hoping that this is for consoles only since the demo at E3 was played on PS4.

But then again, i could always be wrong.

If the players are jumping too much, put down more metal and marble floors. Anyway, fuck this new breed of casualized game designers.

if its broke already it cannot be fixed. imagine trying to implement jumping with mantling in ocarina of time halfway through dev. absolutely impossible without complete level redesign. this is not going away.

AAA studios aren't where the magic happens anyway.

I really have to learn how to not waste my free time. Some people are capable of go jogging, read book and draw something, while I can wake from daydreaming just before bed time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9rtmxJrKwc

I KNOW! I WILL CUT OFF INTERNET! WHERE'S MY SCISSORS ?!

Same here. Starting to get to the end of a project... when I get hit with another that needs to be done on an extra-tight deadline.

"the illusion only really works when you keep looking the same way, lighting is baked in, so is specular and everything else. the texture also is not "calculated" on the opposite side, it is just projected through the mesh."

It's illusional that one day we'll be able to create 3D models out of 2D photographies with a certain quality. The terms already says it, 3D -Y 2D == information lost. The only way such things could work would be to have a camera that stores depth informations in the picture combined with a tools that allows you to get the specific location of the camera. Several shots from different sides, and voila.

Everything else are just dirty hacks which will always have their nitpicks.

IMHO

Four hours it's a decent time... For texturing a model, or making a decent material

Haha, actually I think it was 45 minutes. It's the opening room to the Chain Project for T2 if you want to see it. A bare small room with a locked door, table and plant, and an AI that immediately attacks. You kill him and the door opens. 4 hours is a bit more rational. How could you check anyway? Dromed saves the age of a map. I guess make a branch save when you start and then check the time stamp with the final save.

no map size limit, 2 days, or 48 hours. And map to have at least 1/2 hour play time.

With no DLC, they must not think much of it either. Too bad. I rather like it. I can't get too much Thief.

So much potential wasted. Really taffin' sad.

It was dead like dogp** just in the mom it was released :-) / gameplay, grafix, sounds .... :-P / not worth the money (~15€)

I have begun...!

Ah, it is nice to see you getting back to mapping, Fieldmedic! Looking forward to see your work. They always do something differently.

Hehe, "different" is a good word to describe me

that's really well done man! Keep it up!

Very nice quality and acting

Excellent sound and body to the vocals. Much more than before. Really looking forward to the ingame audio clips and we still need a "puff" screen to keep the mic from booming.

He wasn't aware of the Dark Mod until we spoke however after checking it out he said "The whole Dark Mod project looks really cool".

Nice.

This sounds awesome and intriguing, not to mention praise for the whole Dark Mod must feel very appreciative

Welcome to the club mista :-)

It's funny, I've actually expanded my FM quite a lot because I felt the plot would be too rushed if I didn't. So it goes both ways :-). I definitely agree w/ bringing at least one section to completion. I've been making my FM scene-by-scene, and I started out by taking one small starting section and buffing it to a polished shine (w/ Biker's help).

Wise words Sotha.

Omg Melan! Thats exactly what I saw in my head.. hm I need to find a way to bring that in now. Instead I have converted that room into an alchemist type room but yeah that's really cool. Man I love Thief 2!

Oh no, it's:

That would feel right at home in minecraft

I second AH: No ME2? Shame on you!

They will all be excellent, I am sure of it. But still, I am just gonna buy them on demand, when I am in the mood for playing the specific game or I wait until there's a sale.

Yes, and you won't end up with a list of games you bought but never had time to play. It's around 90% the case I think for me, haha

The Widow Moira mission had pretty awesome weather effects and mood. Try to replay this masterpiece! =)

I don't think there was any rain. Which is odd a little? The most prominent thing that comes to my mind is the first level of Thief 2X but that is a different game.

If the rain is as performance houngry as it is in idTech4, I can understand the decision to not use it.

Ha I had to double check that wasn't written there

I've never had Czech beer myself so i'm curious how it will taste.

Daniel Vávra, ladies gentlemen. There are still cool people in game development.

Also, Czech beer has a very high probability of being very, very good.

The mask is probably based on this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumans#/media/File:0925_Kipchak_style_helmet_13th_c.JPG

There is not that much censoring. The swastika is gone and the enemies are not called nazis. This won't change the experience much. Although I agree that I hate the way we are getting infantilized in germany. It's for adults only anyway, so what.

It doesn't change the gameplay at all but I still hate these kinds of changes on principle. But the bigger problem is that we also only get the german voice overs and these are nearly always terrible.

Playing this now. Had to turn off SBX surround and use stereo so the game audio wasn't screwed up. Apparently doesn't detect 5.1? Also, no warning to finish obj prior to leaving when you know you'll be back to the area. Bummer. Has issues if you knew about in advance would be better. Game is ok. Good shooter wise.

Good to hear. I mean, that you will still do vocals on your missions. The Shadows of Northdale campaign is very promising.

In lue of young GW stepping away from VA, and as I have a good mic and some semblence of acting skill (not as good as GW) I am happy to try and step in if my voice is suitable that is.

Thanks for your contributions. I guess I'm going to need to find the voice of "our friend" in William Steele's remaining missions elsewhere.

Ive been watching this project for a while.. The graphic is of course lower than Skyrim, but the game is looking fine..

I disagree about the graphics being bad, I have seen them first hand running 60 fps on ultra settings and holy hell are they amazing! Especially for an MMO.

I guess MMO's aren't for everyone but I do enjoy playing them casually, big fun worlds to explore with many people sounds fun to me

Maybe you want to give your personal review to me when you played it for a few weeks?

Thank you my intention is to make that guy creepy as possible

@Lux yeah that problem will be solved when the final version is recorded (I use a better mic+pop filter)

Sounds like Rumplestiltskin from the tv series "once upon a time." Pretty cool, but my problem was it was difficult to understand what he is saying, so if he gives an objective to the player, maybe the speech need to be clarified a bit?

@Sotha yeah I will write the script a bit better I just had this idea for a character and decided to record something on the spot so I made up that "script" as I went along haha but it played out well. After you meet this person an optional objective will be added for the player as well

Hope to see you around more!

Happy New Year!

All the best to everyone.

This is cool and all but I wish Gecko would've worked with the Canon Texture folks at TTLG rather than doing his own project. He's completely changed the look of some of the textures. I guess it's author's prerogative but when you market yourself as the "official" HD mod it's kinda shady, especially since there was already HD-ification happening elsewhere...

Thank you Goldwell! @nbohr1more: Which do you mean? Those? They really look nice and I hope he can help these guys out now after 1.0 release! http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140187&page=58

Agree with nbohr1more. These textures imo are too far from the look & feel of the original game. I switched back from "HD" beta to original textures.

No, luckily I have a computer that can count line entries for me

My bug list always grows back once I've squashed them all.

<3

Bourbon? No.

Scotch? Yes!

It fits with the ole' theme!

Like Sotha I just drink water (on most occasions actually). Ethanol dulls your senses - I think it's best kept away from activities that require a lot of concentration.

I think it could be good when you're brainstorming & mapping on paper. You want to let creativity flow & get into the roles of all the NPCs. On DR, not so much for me because one goal would be staying awake!

The latest ones I remember could store a bit over 3MB. If Mr. Bohr is right with the size we would talk about 3600 disks.

and the drives van play music:

That's gonna be hell of a Christmas present.