Jetrell
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It's unfortunate that you are having problems progressing through the Training Mission. When you say you're stuck at the second challenge, do you mean the "obstacle course" or the "water well puzzle"? I suggest downloading Thieves Guild version 1.03, as I made some adjustments to the Training Mission https://www.moddb.com/mods/thieves-guild/downloads. I also recommend watching the Training Mission tutorial video. Yes, the "sneaking part" of the training follows the obstacle course area.
If you want to skip the Training Mission, you can do so in the game menu by selecting the "New Game" option. Choosing that option will take you directly to the Trials Mission, which is the first mission of the campaign. The Trials Mission is a blend of puzzles and "sneaking parts" that I think you might enjoy. The following missions become progressively more challenging as you move forward through the campaign.
However, if that type of mission is not your cup, there is a mission in the campaign that might especially appeal to you and it's called The Heist Mission. It is a short, straightforward, pure stealth mission.
There are two ways to start a map in Rune.
1. Open up Rune, then bring up the console by pressing the tilde key (~) or bring up the engine command line by pressing the TAB key, then type: Open TG-The Heist Mission.
2. Locate your Rune directory, then go into the Maps subfolder. The full name of the map (.run file) is, TG-The Heist Mission. Double click on that map and the mission should start.
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Thanks for the feedback. I agree, I think you have a valid point. I will fix the tunnel but I just want to make sure that we are both on the same page.
SpoilerDid you first move the barrel into place (under the door) and then jump into the water tunnel, flip the switch, swim back through the tunnel, jump onto the barrel, and then go through the door? I setup the timing of this puzzle so player has to move the barrel into position before he jumps into the tunnel.
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46 minutes ago, Petike the Taffer said:
Thank you. Details added, article updated.
I'll add some of the screenshots soon, I'm currently looking through the ones on ModDB.Just tried to send you a PM but it said you cannot receive messages.
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30 minutes ago, Petike the Taffer said:
A total conversion is a mod, the point of it being that you've changed a copy of an existing game to be a fully-fledged game in its own right. This isn't just a Thief addon for Rune, but a fully-fledged Thief-like mod of Rune. You still need the original game to run a total conversion mod, including a mod for Rune, and including games that have built-in modular support for total conversion mods (e.g. Mount & Blade has this foresight to its modding-friendly structure).
The thing is, I'm not that knowledgeable about the mod, and though I knew you weren't the sole author, I don't know the names or nicknames of the other authors. If you can provide at least a few, I'll definitely add them to the article.
Thank you for the "total conversion" information - learn something new everyday!
Thieves Guild was in development for many years and as a result many people worked on this mod, I would not want to leave anyone out because I'm grateful to all. There were seven team members and about twenty collaborators and beta testers. Mute_Machine, Onaga, Warlawk, Debujin, Durus, and Walleck were team members but everyone was instrumental.
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33 minutes ago, Petike the Taffer said:
Here's the brand new article on this total conversion at the Thief Wiki:
https://thief.fandom.com/wiki/Thieves_Guild_(Rune_mod)Please let me know if I can upload any screenshots and images from the mod's official website or its ModDB page to the Thief Wiki.
Thanks for making and posting this article, it's much appreciated. Yes of course, you can definitely post screenshots and images. I'll be happy to provide even more if you want.
I've always thought that Thieves Guild fit the definition of a mod, and not a total conversion, but I guess I'm not exactly sure about the distinction between the two. There is one thing that I'd like to clear up, Thieves Guild was made by a collection of some very talented people so it make me extremely uncomfortable to see "Thieves Guild by Jetrell". I'd appreciate it if you would change that.
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A new version of Thieves Guild (v1.02) is now available on our MOD DB Thieves Guild page. This update is fully compatible with Rune Gold v1.07, including the GOG release of Rune Gold.
However, Rune Classic v1.10 is still not supported due to unresolved rendering issues.
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Good news - All v1.08 dependencies have been removed. Our beta testers are currently running through the maps, and assuming no issues come up, I should be able to release a new file update shortly.
These changes should make the Thieves Guild mod fully compatible with both GOG versions of Rune - Classic and Gold.
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1 hour ago, datiswous said:
No I think it's the same (they're from the same makers, looking at the release notes). I tested both Classic and Rune Gold from Gog with this update. Both give an error after install I startup. What complicates it, is that I use wine (Linux), but Gog's v.1.07 works fine via wine.
3 minutes ago, datiswous said:Actually it seems I got it working by trial and error.
There's 2 files from v.1.08 that give problems
UWindow.u RMenu.uThese are in the System folder of the Rune Gold folder. So I think you can make a backup of these 2 files from the original Rune Gold and then install patch 1.08 and then copy the backuped 2 files back to the System folder. Off course it's not clear what could break if these have not been updated, but the Thiefs Guild mod now loads.
Thank you for doing all this research, it's very interesting.
I got a response from the person that I reached out to and this is what he found:
Couldn't get the mod to work on Rune Classic version 1.10
However, Rune Gold worked with the mod. This is what he did: installed setup_rune_gold_2.0.0.5, it includes version 1.07, then updated to version 1.08 (rhov108upd_full) and installed the mod.
I realize none of this is optimal, I am in the process of eliminating the mod's reliance to patch 1.08
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3 hours ago, datiswous said:
Why would it not work with the Classic version? I think more people have access to that.
It's just a guess that I made, mostly because my retail version is called Rune Gold and that works. Again, I don't have access to GOG's version which makes this a difficult to problem solve.
I'm still waiting to hear back from people that I've reached out to about this problem.
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I don't have access to GOG's version of Rune but as I understand it, they offer 2 versions, Rune Gold and Rune Classic. I would think their Rune Gold version would work. I have the retail version of Rune Gold and I patched it up to 1.08.
Unreal Archive has several Rune patches, v100, v107, and v108
Mod DB Rune Patch has a different v108 Rune patch.
I have reached out to someone who was having problems with the mod but they were able to find a solution. I will post their recommendations as soon as I get a response.
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We considered adding multiplayer features but ultimately decided against it, as Thievery UT had already nailed that. Instead, we focused our efforts on delivering a story-driven single-player campaign.
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6 hours ago, SeriousToni said:
So I guess you had a lot of work to make it fit into a stealth game (back from hack and slash only). Or is it still the original AI and the Player just has to avoid it? (like, it doesn't recognise a body or missing torchlight)
Yes, we added an extensive amount of new code to the AIs. They now recognize open and closed doors, lights on or off, react to dead or unconscious bodies etc...
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9 hours ago, michael_a said:
Tried to run after unzipping. "Failed to enter D:\Games\Rune Gold\Maps\TG/run: Can't find Class in file 'Class Engine.ServerOptions' History: UGameEngine::InitEngine"
Command "Open TG" in game's console doesn't do anything.
Check your PM
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5 hours ago, michael_a said:
How to launch it? Thieves Guild Mod shortcut after installation on GOG's Rune Gold can't run TG.run file. And as I understand Rune Classic is not advised to use with this mod.
Interesting... I'm thinking you are having problems with the installation/.exe file. I suggest downloading the other version of the mod that I uploaded, the Thieves Guild zip file. Just unzip and put all of the files in the corresponding Rune folders. Then to start the mod, simply open up the TG.run file or you can use the "console" and type in "Open TG". The TG.run file will open up the Thieves Guild game menu.
Thieves Guild zip file download
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2 hours ago, JackFarmer said:It makes me really sad to read that you thought it wasn't appropriate to post about your work here. If we cannot discuss this incredible achievement from the Thief-like universe we love so much on a TDM forum, then I wonder by the Builder what else we're supposed to talk about here.
I was cautious because I didn't want it to be perceived that I was using The Dark Mod Forums to promote my mod but I get your point - we're all in this together.
2 hours ago, JackFarmer said:
15 years? You alone (I hope not)?Over the years we've had a few different team members, but for the past few months it's mostly been just me and one other person.
2 hours ago, JackFarmer said:Could you be so kind and elaborate a little on your project?
The Thieves Guild project started a long time ago, when Rune was still popular. We liked Thief and we also liked Rune so we combined the two games together. We incorporated all of the cloak & dagger elements from Thief but we also wanted our thief to be able to fight like a Viking. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely a thief/stealth game.
Through the 20 or so missions, we tell a story about a thief working for the local thieves' guild, operating within a dark and corrupt city. Under the cover of night, you are assigned a series of dangerous missions - success is rewarded with valuable items, increased wealth, and greater prestige from within the guild. To survive, you must move silently through shadowed alleyways, scale heavily guarded buildings, bypass deadly traps, and pick stubborn locks - all while avoiding detection by the city watch and roaming night patrols. One misstep can mean capture, failure, or worse. In this city, survival belongs to those who remain unseen.
2 hours ago, JackFarmer said:Is the game to be played with a game pad or with keyboard/mouse ?
Thieves Guild was designed to be played on a computer using a keyboard and mouse. Rune uses the Unreal Engine 1.
2 hours ago, JackFarmer said:I really like the typical dark atmosphere, especially "The Dark Side Edition Trailer" provides for that.
I'm glad you liked what you saw in "The Dark Side Edition Trailer". This video is a walk-through of The Training Mission.
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I hope you get Rune to work on your machine so you will be able to play the Thieves Guild mod. In truth I've been working on this project for over 15 years, which is crazy I know.
Thieves Guild is a single-player Rune mod, loosely inspired by Thief: The Dark Project. It's a campaign driven story of about 20 missions. We tried to combine the action game style of Rune with the stealth game-play of Thief.
Thanks for the shout-out - I appreciate it. I didn't post anything about the mod here because I wasn't sure if it was appropriate.
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On 11/28/2025 at 7:26 AM, datiswous said:
Are these easier, or have you simply already learned it?
It's mostly the story and the inventing of the map layout and AI-pathing routes itself that I find difficult, not the technical part of mapping with DR itself persé.
Difficult question because for me it's a combination of different factors. The Dark engine is something that I've used for so long that it's hard for me to say objectively if it's easier or harder. I've also used the Unreal Engine for a very long time but I do find that the newest version is easy, intuitive, and it comes with a huge amount of support.
I think of new mission ideas all the time, the difficult part for me is being able to recreate my ideas using game/engine mechanics.
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16 hours ago, chakkman said:
What I rather wonder is why so few of them ever made FMs for The Dark Mod (apart from people like Melan). I can only speculate, but, I guess that 1. they're used to the Dark engine and the level editor,
I can only speak for myself, the one and only reason I have not made any FMs for The Dark Mod is the steep learning curve. I have used and still use the Dark engine and the Unreal engine but the idea of learning the ins and outs of Dark Radiant is simply too daunting.
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Hey there Sotha, I'm a big fan of your work but I don't like the name of this mission. This isn't going to be your last mission is it? The name, The Last Offering sounds a little ominous and possibly foreshadowing... Say it isn't so.
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Very nice work. I'm glad you addressed the stole clipping problem, it was bugging me. It also looks like you fixed the hammer necklace clipping problem. Thanks for taking on this task.
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Interesting topic, I'm not trying to restart an old debate but it's too bad Bikerdude isn't still here because he knows a lot about monitors and other technology. He helped me get my current monitor and he also helped a lot of other people here with these types of questions.
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I looked but didn't see this video posted in these forums. It's pretty cool.
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Just Music You Like
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Posted · Edited by Jetrell
Liked this song so much, I made a video