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  1. On 12/15/2019 at 9:54 PM, OrbWeaver said:

    Samples where the noise is noticeable at an ordinary listening volume (i.e. not selecting the noise and amplifying it artificially):

    
    mantle_pull01F
    mantle_pullF01
    mantle_pushF01
    

    With all of the others I think the noise would be very difficult to notice without specifically looking for it in an audio editor, as most of it is just electrical hum at 50/60 Hz which contains nothing useful for vocals and can just be high-pass filtered out.

    Okay, now I've noticed which files you mean. As soon as I'm in contact with ShadowCreepr again and she'll have enough free time to do more recordings, I'll ask her to try and make a new version of these.

    I'd really like to thank you for your help and advice so far. I really appreciate it. If everything goes well, maybe this project can get finished this spring, or at the latest, summer. I've been busy lately, but I'll try to pick up the pace.

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  2. I am in a lowland region where milder winters often mean less or no snow.

    Nevertheless, even in this year's milder than usual winter, my location had a few snowy days and weeks. Last time this Tuesday.

    I might share a few photos later.

     

     


  3. As the holiday season is concluding, I will be getting back in the saddle with regards to this project. I'd like to thank Dragofer and all the others for their suggestions so far. Keep at it ! We still need to trim them down eventually, so that we have plenty of varied lines, but not too much, and then I'll move on to try some recording. On a sidenote, I am already starting work on another vocal set, this time for a merchant type character. Wanted to already back in December, but I was just too busy with life and other stuff.

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  4. Happy new year to all ! All the best, and let's make it a good and fruitful year ! :)

    To kick off, I've decided to start a discussion based on the question in the title.

    Aside from the Thief trilogy (and TDM as its spiritual freeware cousin), what are some steampunk or steampunk-esque games that caught your interest ? Both in the past and more recently.

     

    Some that I've personally played and/or been impressed by over the years:

    Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura - this is a real classic for a number of reasons. If you can get over the somewhat lackluster combat, it has excellent, memorable writing and an oddly great sense of exploration. Of the games from the isometric, mouse-click control era of CRPGs, this is my favourite. I was fascinated by it already back when I saw the earliest reviews almost two decades ago, and after owning it for years and slowly playing through it, I still keep finding interesting things. The isometric era Fallout games were fine, but if I'm to choose whether they or this cousin of their's grabbed my heart more, the vote definitely goes to Arcanum. Even though it's an old game at this point, much of the voice acting, the atmospheric soundtrack, and the interesting quests (I even helped with resolving a feud between old friends, without fighting or bribes !) still bring my heart joy whenever I play it.

    Iron Grip series - a surprising favourite of mine. Unfortunately, by yet another already disbanded dev team. Though I think said devs tried doing too many things at once in their later years, including in the third game of this series, the first two games were ace. I also loved the setting they created for the series, one of its strongest suits, besides the gameplay ideas in the first two games. (Technically, the first is a total conversion rather than standalone, but it has the feel of an autonomous game.) The series' lore is still leaving a lasting impression on me, even many years since the original releases and the series going dormant. I don't think I've ever come across another game, before or since, that tried to focus on early 20th century war drama themes (in a context akin to the world wars, Russian civil war, warlord era China, etc.), while also being set in an entirely fictional world, rather than a thinly-veiled or alternate version of real history. There's also a strange whiff of Thief in two aspects of these games: They had a very timeless approach to cultural esthetics, and they had the definite backdrop of an epic, but weren't trying to tell an epic (focusing instead on very ordinary "heroes"). For some reason, that's the sort of approach I like seeing in fantasy steampunk media. (On a final sidenote, I had the pleasure to hear a live orchestral version of Christian Pacaud's mostly electronic OST for the first game. Even saved the video of the performance. As much as I liked the music in the two games, I was stumped at how an orchestral rendition improved things. Pity the devs never used that. It sounded amazing. Have a listen. That's the sort of slightly operatic bombat I expect from a serious war-themed steampunk/dieselpunk game.)

    Air Power: Battle in the Skies - Dynamix's Red Baron meets FASA's Crimson Skies, but somewhere literally midway between the creation of those two games. Created in the mid-1990s by Rowan Software, who previously worked on several historical flight sims, this was clearly a little passion project of their's and also a rather cheeky departure into a fictional industrial era world, though much like IG, a grounded and non-magical one. The plot is clearly inspired by early WWI dynastic shenanigans, but the airship and aircraft technology is far more 1920s and early-to-mid 1930s, to the devs' creative credit. While AP:BitS is a fairly charming game on the outside in terms of presentation and esthetic approach, and the flight sim gameplay wasn't bad, I feel it was a little too before its time. The tech available then just didn't do it justice, and British developers of the era being far smaller and not having much of a budget, it's no surprise this never really took off (pun intended). Still, along with the really cool PC adaptation of Crimson Skies, some five years later, this was one of those works that cemented my childhood love for the idea of being a sky pirate. 😄 

    Dishonored series - not that surprising, given how its DNA is also tied to Thief for inspiration, even though it's a lot more actiony in terms of gameplay. Though they went for a fairly obvious 18th/19th century aesthetic for this one (and in the first game, Corvo is basically a steampunk Edmond Dantes), I still liked most of their spins on the technology, culture and society in the installments. The whale-oil as a power source idea (even for guns !) might seem a bit silly at face value, but based on their inspiration in whale oil light sources of real history, it at least has some real tech grounding. I can appreciate that in any fantasy setting, even one as weird as this one. (I think the familiar-but-weird tone is what it shares with Thief very well).

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  5. @chakkman @Dragofer

    Guys, please leave me some time to breathe. I want to enjoy my holidays, and I unfortunately still have a lot of stuff to deal with until the 24th. I even wanted to work on another experimental vocal script and get it posted here in another thread, but it's been delayed.

    Now, as for the Pagans, while I'm open to other voice actors, I volunteered to do the male AIs myself. I don't have to fake a foreign English accent. I don't have a very thick accent, but it is clearly a non-native speaker accent. This would be particularly ideal for the tribesman subset of the vocal script. If I manage to do these recordings, it will be really weird hearing my own voice in TDM, but c'est la vie.

     

     

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  6. 22 hours ago, OrbWeaver said:

    Samples where the noise is noticeable at an ordinary listening volume (i.e. not selecting the noise and amplifying it artificially):

    
    mantle_pull01F
    mantle_pullF01
    mantle_pushF01
    

    With all of the others I think the noise would be very difficult to notice without specifically looking for it in an audio editor, as most of it is just electrical hum at 50/60 Hz which contains nothing useful for vocals and can just be high-pass filtered out.

    I only see a white space. :(


  7.  On 12/12/2019 at 5:32 PM, Dragofer said:
    you'll have to teach me how to have multiple spoilers within a post without them all getting nested into each other in these new forums
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    AI States: Relaxed

    These AI are idle; not doing anything in particular. They are bored and talking to themselves, so just like when people think out loud, the beginning and end of their dialogue will often trail off into mumbling.

    Relaxed: You're either not working or aren't expecting any trouble. You're relaxed and somewhat bored. Dialogue can be punctuated with sighs and muttering.

    Throat clearing/coughs x3
    Sighs x2 (it's been a long day)
    Humming a simple tune x2

    Idle_1 "Where could that old crone of a washerwoman be lurking now…"
    Idle_2 "By his own hand. Ha. An embarrassment, to him and to his kin."
    Idle_3 "The air is rarely this thick. I wonder what it means to tell us."
    Idle_4 "When we next cross paths I'll put an end to it. For good."
    Idle_5 "Tomorrow will be a long day. I hope the others are prepared as well."
    Idle_6 "Didn’t see her in a long time. I can't complain."
    Idle_7 "I should have taken it with me. No reason not to."
    Idle_8 "They won't be so smug when the land freezes over."

    Idle_9 "Looks like another long night."
    Idle_10 "(sigh) They all want something from me."
    Idle_11 "Another star has faded from the sky. Soon we’ll all be groping in the dark."

    Idle_12 "He who relies on cold metal and dead rock to make his home will freeze to his death in winter."
    Idle_13 "Something needs to happen, soon."

    Idle_shaman_1 "Fire is a mysterious being; it warms our bodies and it burns our dwellings."
    Idle_shaman_2 "Will she heed my pleas? Even she seems to avoid this troubled corner."

    Idle_shaman_3 "The possum takes the hawk's chick and the hawk, mad with rage, takes the possum. That is the way."
    Idle_shaman_4 "The raven disturbed me. It seemed anxious about something… but what?"

    At Alert 0: On the job. Similar to above, but you're working so you're a little more alert.
    Number of Wavs: 3

    alert0_1 "What fool would challenge me?"



    AI States: Alert

     

    To Alert 1/1.5: You notice something subtle but aren't sure what it is. You are mostly talking to yourself, so you should not be particularly loud and may trail off.
    Number of Wavs: 3
    to_alert1_1 "Hm?"
    to_alert1_2 "What...?"

    to_alert1_3 "What’s that?"

    To Alert 1/1.5 + Heard: Same as above, only this one means you notice something auditory.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    to_alert1_sound_1 "Strange sound."

    To Alert 1/1.5 + Saw: Same as above, only you notice something with your sight.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character

    to_alert1_saw_2 "Is that..?"

    to_alert1_saw_shaman_1 "How the shadows twist and bulge this night..."

    To Alert 2: You notice something, and it caught your attention enough to warrant checking it out.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    to_alert2_1 "What is that?"

    to_alert2_2 "Is someone there? Say something."
    to_alert2_3 "Father? Are you here?"

    to_alert2_shaman_1 "Do the spirits seek to commune?"

    To Alert 2 + Heard: You hear something loud which you should investigate. Same as above only now it's specific to hearing.
    to_alert2_sound_1 "That sound has no place here."
    to_alert2_sound_2 "What’s making noise over there?"
    to_alert2_sound_3 "That's no sound of the night."


    To Alert 2 + Saw: You saw something in the shadows which you should investigate. Same as above, only now specific to seeing.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    to_alert2_saw_1 "What's with that shadow?"
    to_alert2_saw_2 "Who skulks in the shadows?"


    To Alert 2 + Company + Heard: You notice something auditory with company.
    to_alert2_soundx2_1 "*Psh*! Listen."
    to_alert2_soundx2_2 "Hear that?"

    To Alert 2 + Company + Saw: You notice something visually amiss with company and start to investigate.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    to_alert2_sawx2_1 "Look! What’s that?"
    to_alert2_sawx2_2 "Careful… there’s something over there."

    Returning to Alert 0, generic: You saw or heard something suspicious, but you can't find any evidence of anything serious. It was probably nothing.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    to_0_1 "Could’ve been a creature. It’s not here anymore.”
    to_0_2 “Curse myself, it was nothing.”

    to_0_3 "There’s nothing here."
    to_0_4 "Must be gone now. Good."

    to_0_5 "That could've been anything… but now it's gone."
    to_0(_shaman)_6 "The dark holds many secrets. This secret will remain one, for now."

    Returning to Alert 0, hearing: As above, but you thought you'd heard something.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    to_0_sound_1 "Quiet again… strange.”

    Returning to Alert 0, sight: As above, but you thought you'd seen something.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    to_0_saw_1 "A curse must be on my eyes. There’s nothing here."
    to_0_saw_2 "I shouldn't be jumping at shadows."
    to_0_saw_3 "A play of shadows, nothing more."


    To Alert 3: You see or hear something that makes it pretty clear that there's someone there, but you don't know exactly who or where they are. You're all business now.
    to_alert3_1 "Stop this trickery!"
    to_alert3_2 "Enough, show yourself!"
    to_alert3_3 "I know you’re here! Who are you?"
    to_alert3_shaman_1 "What spirit communes so directly?"


    Returning to Alert 0, no evidence: You know you saw someone, but you've searched around and can't find them. This bark is played as you give up the search. You still don't know for sure that it was an intruder, but you are highly annoyed.
    Number of Wavs: 5 per character
    to_0_search_1 "Dammit! Who knows what that was? Can’t be good."
    to_0_search_2 "(*Grunt*) The sleeping wolf rarely wakes to a catch…"

    to_0_search_3 "Nothing there… have my senses become dull?"
    to_0_search_4 "The shadows here take on a life of their own."

    Lost Player after Pursuit: You were chasing the intruder when suddenly he disappeared. He can't be far.
    lost_player_1 "Only shade spawn can disappear like that!"
    lost_player_2 "What! Where is he?"
    lost_player_3 "Witchcraft!"


    Return to Alert 1, evidence: You have confirmed there is an intruder but he's given you the slip. You've searched for him, but haven't been able to find him. You're giving up for now but you aren't letting your guard down.
    Number of Wavs: 5 per character
    to_0_spotted_1 "I’ll have your head, be sure of that!"
    to_0_spotted_2 "He's careless. He’ll show himself again."

    to_0_spotted_3 “The others better not hear about this.”
    to_0_spotted_4 "This isn’t over yet… I’ll find you, now or later."
    to_0_spotted_5 "Curses! Who knows where he’s lurking now."

    Return with help, spot player: You have run away from the player, gotten help, and returned. The player is still there, so you order the help forward.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    gotten_help_1 "There he is! Kill him!"
    gotten_help_2 "He’s still here! Quickly!"


    Return with help, lost player: You have returned with help but the player is no longer visible.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    gotten_help_gone_1 "He was here, find him!"
    gotten_help_gone_2
    "Search all the shadows!"
    gotten_help_gone_3 "He's still here, I'm sure of it!"

    Recently Saw Player: You just saw the player not too long ago, but the player escaped. Now, you're telling your comrade that there is an intruder and that you have seen him.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    saw_playerx2_1 "A spy of the enemy is hiding in the shadows!"
    saw_playerx2_2 "Keep your weapons ready. Tonight we spill outsider’s blood."
    saw_playerx2_3 "Watch every shadow: a foe skulks among us like a rat."


    Suspicious, warn friend: You have seen non-specific evidence of an intruder, and are warning a friend about it.
    warning01 "Be wary, evil lurks nearby."
    warning02 "Do not take your eyes off the dark, it might be the last thing you do."

    warning03 "Hostile eyes are watching us this night. Do not rest."


     


    AI States: Searching
     

    You are actively looking for the intruder, and are either muttering to yourself or taunting them.

    Investigate Alert 3: You've seen enough to know that there is somebody there, but you're not 100% sure that it's an intruder. Still, anyone hiding from you must be up to no good.
    Number of Wavs: 5 per character
    search3_1 "I know every nook, every cranny. You can’t hide from me!”

    search3_2 “Enough of this! Show yourself!”
    search3_3 "Come out, so I can see what you are."
    search3_4 "Be you man, beast or spirit, I’m not afraid of you!"
    search3_5 "Don’t count on the darkness to hide you from me."

    search3_shaman_1 "Only a deeply troubled spirit would seek my attention so openly."

    Investigate Alert 4: You know for sure there is an intruder, and you're looking for him.
    Number of Wavs: 5 per character
    search4_1 "The shadows are a thin barrier between you and my wrath."
    search4_2 "This is your death, outsider."

    search4_3 “Just you wait ‘til I’m done with you.”

    search4_4 "My eyes pierce this darkness!"
    search4_5 “Come out, or do I have to hunt you like a rabbit?”
    search4shaman_1 "Come into my arms, lost one, so I may embrace you this cold night."

     

     

     

    Combat and Pursuit

    You have spotted the player and identified him as an intruder. You are either attacking, or preparing to attack. If you're a noncombatant, you're getting ready to flee. Either way you want to draw a lot of attention to yourself, so you are generally shouting loudly.

    Spotted the Player, combatant: You see the player and are charging to attack.
    Number of Wavs: 5 per character
    spotted_combat_1 "Wail with pain!"
    spotted_combat_2 "I will end you!”
    spotted_combat_3 "Your life ends here!"
    spotted_combat_4 "Nothing can save you now!"
    spotted_combat_5 "Haha, I've been waiting for this!"


    Spotted the Player, combatant, with help: You're with friends when you finally spot the player.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    spotted_combatx2_1 "He’s there!”
    spotted_combatx2_2 "I see him!"


    Spotted the Player with a Body, combatant: You see the player carrying a dead or unconscious person.
    Number of Wavs: 1 per character
    spotted_combat_body_1 "Foul necromancer!"

    Spotted the Player, noncombatant: You're not prepared for a fight. You see the player and are preparing to flee.
    Number of Wavs: 5 per character
    spotted_civilian_1 "He is here, and armed!"
    spotted_civilian_2 "The raiders are here!"
    spotted_civilian_3 "A thief! A thief!"


    Killed Player: You've won the fight. Taunt the player as he lies dying at your feet.
    killed_player01 "The shaman will be pleased."
    killed_player02 "Is that all?"
    killed_player03 "Already dead? *grunt*"
    killed_player04 "This one is for the vultures."


    Running Away for help: You're fleeing, either because you don't know how to fight, or you tried to fight and are badly hurt. Call out to for help.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    fleeing_1 "No, not like this!"
    fleeing_2 "Stay away, outsider filth!"
    fleeing_3 "There’s an intruder!"


    Coming to assist: A comrade called for help (or you heard sounds of a fight) and you are on your way to assist them.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    combat_assist_1 "I'm on my way!"
    combat_assist_2 "Keep him busy!"


    Frustrated: The player is out of reach (such as standing on a stack of crates or across a chasm) and you can't reach him.
    Number of Wavs: 4 per character
    frustrated_1 "Get back here!"
    frustrated_2 "Pathetic! I expect nothing else from lowly outsider spawn."
    frustrated_3 "Is this how your men fight? Coward!"
    frustrated_4 "I’ll get to you, just you wait!"


    Throw Object at Player: The player is out of reach (such as standing on a stack of crates) and you can't reach him. You're angry and throw something.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    missile_generic_1 "Take that!"
    missile_generic_2 "Try dodging this!"


    Shooting: You're shooting arrows at the player.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    archer_1 "Let this be a thorn in your side."
    archer_2 "This one is for the heart."
    archer_shaman_1 "The wind obeys my bow."


    Attacking : You're grunting and attacking
    attacking_1 "Ha!!"
    attacking_2 "Arg!"


    Combat, winning: You are winning the fight and take a moment to taunt your opponent. These need to be said quickly, as the fight is still going on.
    attacking_hit_1 "Clumsy fool."
    attacking_hit_2 "Didn’t see that coming?"
    attacking_hit_3 "And again!"


    Die Quiet: You got assassinated or blackjacked and are going down. Make a grunt, but as the name suggests, it's kind of quiet. This should only be about a second in length.
    die_quiet_1 "UNH"
    die_quiet_2 "Arg"
    die_quiet_3 "HHnnnn..."


    Die Loud: Yep. You're dead. Theatrics are welcomed here, though not too over the top. This should be about 2 - 4 seconds in length.
    die_loud_1 "AHHHHHHHHHH"
    die_loud_2 "Arggghh"


    Blinded: You have been blinded by a flash of light.
    Number of Wavs: 1 per character.
    blinded_1 "My eyes!"

    Gassed: You have been gassed. Cough, sputter and pass out. This should be quick-a second or two at most (it's fast gas). Coughing can be shared among characters
    Number of Wavs: 1
    gassed_1 "…cough cough"

    Drowning: You are drowning. Gurgle and choke.
    Number of Wavs: 1
    drowning_1 "Gurgle"


     


    Finding Evidence

    You have found or observed something that looks out of place. You aren't seeing or hearing the player, but something that might be a sign that an intruder was here earlier. Since you don't expect anyone is nearby, you're mostly talking to yourself.

    Suspicious Item, Generic: There is something nearby which should not be there or something which is amiss (such as when a guard notices that a chair is knocked over). It's strange, and strange things always make you a bit suspicious.
    Number of Wavs: 4 per character
    suspicious_item_1 "Someone was here… who..?"
    suspicious_item_2 "That didn’t move by itself."
    suspicious_item_3 "Strange… that's not the way I remember it."
    suspicious_item_4 "Something's not right…"



    Notice Weapon: There is a weapon lying around. How did it get there?
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    notice_weapon_1 "Who would leave his weapons behind?"
    notice_weapon_2 "Why is this weapon lying here?"


    Notice Door Open: There is a door open that shouldn't be.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    notice_door_1 "That shouldn't be open."
    notice_door_2 "Why is that open?"
    notice_door_3 "Who left that open?"


    Notice lights off, generic: The lights are off, but shouldn't be--these can be used for all types of light.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    notice_lights_1 "Hehe… his life will be extinguished in the same way."
    notice_lights_2 "The shadows weren't this deep before."
    notice_lights_3 "What happened to the light?"


    Notice lights out, flame: You notice a torch or candle that should be lit has gone out.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    notice_lights_flame_1 "That flame should've burned longer."
    notice_lights_flame_2 "That was lit when I last saw it."
    notice_lights_flame_3 "A stiff breeze? No, can't be…"


    Relight light, flame: You notice that a light source is out. You relight it.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    light_relight_1 "Already too many shadows for something to hide."
    light_relight_2 "No one else will relight this."
    light_relight_shaman_1 "The shades will cast this realm in darkness, if nothing is done."


    Refuse to relight Torch: You notice that a flame is out. Refuse to relight it.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    light_refuse_1 "Relighting this is women's work."
    light_refuse_2 "It will go out by itself again if I relight it."
    light_refuse_3 "I can't relight every light the moment it goes out."
    light_refuse_4 "Why should *I* relight this?"


    Notice Blood on Floor: There is blood on the floor. Obviously something serious is going on.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    notice_blood_1 "Blood?"
    notice_blood_2 "Who's blood was spilled here?"


    Found Generic Body: You find a body on the ground.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    notice_body_generic_1 "Foul creatures are at work!"
    notice_body_generic_2 "Are you well?"


    Found Female Body: You find the body of a woman on the ground.
    Number of Wavs: 1 per character
    notice_body_female_1 "A woman has fallen; the baseness."

    Found Male Body: You find the body of a man on the ground.
    Number of Wavs: 1 per character
    notice_body_male_1 "Whoever felled this man did not finish his task."

    Found Body Dead: You find a body of someone obviously dead.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    notice_dead_1 "Life has left this body."
    notice_dead_2 "Dead."
    notice_dead_3 "The killer can't be far."
    notice_dead_(shaman?)_1 "I doubt life can be breathed back into this body."


    Found Female Body Dead: You find the dead body of a woman on the ground.
    Number of Wavs: 1 per character
    notice_dead_female_1 "Life has left her body."
    notice_dead_female_2 "I doubt life can be returned to her body."


    Found Male Body Dead: You found a man, dead on the ground.
    Number of Wavs: 1 per character
    notice_dead_male_1 "Dead. But I wasn't the one who killed him…"
    notice_dead_male_2 "I doubt life can be returned to his body."


    Found Body comrade: You find a comrade, dead on the ground. You are outraged.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    notice_dead_friend_1 "Heads will roll for this!"
    notice_dead_friend_2 "I will slay a hundred to avenge you!"
    notice_dead_friend_3 "Where is the slayer!? Show yourself!"


    Recently Found Body: You recently found a body and are relaying the information to a friend.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    notice_deadx2_1 "Be alert, we are being preyed upon!"
    notice_deadx2_1 "The shadows are taking their toll. Be wary."


    Had pocket picked: You had something on your belt, and now it's gone! That's pretty suspicious...though it's possible it *might* have fallen off, so it's not absolute proof of an intruder.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    notice_pickpocket_1 "What… where's it gone?"
    notice_pickpocket_2 "It can't have fallen off…"
    notice_pickpocket_3 "Gone? But how?"


    Found Something Missing: There is something significant missing that shouldn't be. You've obviously been robbed and you know it.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    notice_absence_1 "It mustn't fall into the enemy's hands!"
    notice_absence_2 "No! It was taken!"
    notice_absence_3 "It was stolen!"


    Recently Found Something Missing: You know you've been robbed and you're telling your buddy about it.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    notice_absencex2_1 "We have been plundered! Don't let the thief get away!"
    notice_absencex2_2 "It's gone! Find the thief!"

     

     

     

     

    Greetings

    Greeting, Guard to Guard: You spot a social equal who is a guard, on patrol. You greet them casually.
    greeting_guardxguard_1 "Seen anything?"

    Greeting, Guard to Civilian: You spot a civilian/servant while you're working. No time to chat; they need to know how important your job is.
    greeting_guardxcivilian_1 "Stay away from trouble."
    greeting_guardxcivilian_2 "Tell me if you notice something."


    Greeting, Superior: You spot someone who is high on the social ladder and greet them.
    greeting_xnobleman_1 "Your lordship."
    greeting_xpagannobleman_1 "May your sons be many and strong."


    greeting_xnoblewoman_1 "M'lady."
    greeting_xpagannoblewoman_1 "The stars shine in your eyes."


    greeting_xpriest_1 "May your god give you strength."
    greeting_xpaganpriest_1 "Do the stars bode well?"


    Greeting Generic: A casual greeting
    greeting_civilianxcivilian_1 "Good eve."
    greeting_civilianxcivilian_2 "Evening."


    Greeting Inferior. You're a noble and see a civilian. You're better than them.
    greeting_noblemanxcivilian_1 "Stay away."
    greeting_noblemanxcivilian_2 "What do you want?"


    Greeting inferior guard. You're a noble and see a guard. Evaluate their performance.
    greeting_noblemanxguard_1 "Only strong arms will slay many foes."
    greeting_noblemanxguard_2 "Keep your weapons ready."
    greeting_noblemanxguard_3 "Never let down your guard."


    Generic Responses: These should be said fairly monotone and noncommittal, as they could be replies to many different greetings.
    response_1 "Mhm." (yes)
    response_2 "Hm."
    response_3 "Right."
    response_4 "If you say so."
    response_5 "Ye."

    That's easy. The spoiler button is to the right of the emoticon/smiley button. Add a spoiler, then make a few lines of space behind the spoiler's end tag, then click the button again and insert another spoiler.


  8. On 12/14/2019 at 2:55 PM, Springheel said:

    I wouldn't recommend using thee/thous for pagans...they shouldn't sound too much like Builders.

    Fair enough, I thought so as well. It would be confusing. I'll try to make their English sound more contemporary in terms of adress, but still try to keep a certain folk-style tinge to it, where possible.

    On 12/15/2019 at 3:35 PM, Dragofer said:

    Alright, we're getting closer here. I've been thinking in the past days on what'd be the most sensible way of proceeding from here and came up with the idea of merging both scripts into a Google Document.

    This would pool all available ideas for lines and allow to separate out the strongest lines and then to reflect on what could be done with the remaining ones, i.e. rephrase them or assign to a subset (urban/rural/shaman).

    It'll also easily allow for multiple people to work on the lines, and anyone would be able to post comments on any lines along the sides of the document.

    I've made a start on fusing the scripts (taking some time because mine is based on a different master script with different defs and formatting), and if you also think we should proceed like this, I'd then go on to post the merged script when I'm finished. I'd also appreciate if you sent me your Google username.

    That's cool !

    I will still add you lines to my overview here on the forum, just for the sake of completeness. I do agree we could work on further additions in that Google Doc, and once we're satisfied, finalise it as a vocal script ready for use.

    However, bear in mind: We don't need a vast array of phrases for each situation. The more rarer situations need, at most, two unique responses/lines, given what the vocals scripts of the other established AIs already contain. We don't need ten different lines for relighting a fire, when one or two will do just fine. The bulk of unique responses should focus on stealth situations and the like.

    I would also like to thank you for all the help and feedback so far. You've provided some great quality contributions.

    One more thing: If any of you guys get the feeling I am not responding immediately or every single day, it's because I'm still a bit busy before the holidays. Not just home stuff, but also some personal things, meeting with friends I see rarely, or writing to them... Trying to find some time for myself... That sort of thing. I am here and I will try to respond in time and regularly, but sometimes I'm either a little busy or tired. But I'll have more full time for TDM soon enough.


  9. 1 hour ago, OrbWeaver said:

    The hum is pretty easy to remove with a high pass filter (I tested in Renoise). There is a small amount of broad spectrum background noise (although strangely not in every single one), but I would say many of these would be perfectly usable from an audio quality perspective.

    I am inclined to agree.

    Which files would you say have the biggest BSBN issues ?


  10. Right, so here are a few samples of the new .wav recordings SC has sent me. She's managed to get rid of background noise, I listened closely and they all sounded crisp. The early test recordings from November have been disposed of, we're not going back to those.

    I have several more of these (two or three times as many, in fact), but I've only chosen a few. As we have tight upload limits for attachments here, and I can only fit a single .wav file into each post, I don't want to do twenty posts in a row.

    http://www.mediafire.com/file/hpzkvlht7dqn2oc/Preliminary_female_player_vocals.zip/file

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/b58hep54e198unz/Preliminary female player vocals.zip?dl=0

    So I'm providing a link to a .zip with the files, as available above. If there are download issues, use the second link, please.

     

     

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  11. On 12/12/2019 at 5:32 PM, Dragofer said:

    Very nice, it's great to see more effort being put into this longstanding project. What I particularly like about your approach is to keep supernatural references subtle, at least when compared to T3's overblown take on it.

    I've written a fair share of lines of my own over the years, that I'll include within the spoilers below (you'll have to teach me how to have multiple spoilers within a post without them all getting nested into each other in these new forums). What I personally had in mind, especially when I most recently worked on the alerts and searching barks, was something like a Celtic tribesman - rough, superstitious and not afraid to enter hand-to-hand combat with the intruder. Another archetype of Pagan may be the secret worshippers you'd find in the city living in attics and mostly staying among their own. Some lines may be more suitable for one than the other (or possibly neither), plus I've demarcated some lines for a possible shaman.

    I imagine we could be choosing, refining and merging the best lines from each script to come to a final product.

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    AI States: Relaxed

    These AI are idle; not doing anything in particular. They are bored and talking to themselves, so just like when people think out loud, the beginning and end of their dialogue will often trail off into mumbling.

    Relaxed: You're either not working or aren't expecting any trouble. You're relaxed and somewhat bored. Dialogue can be punctuated with sighs and muttering.

    Throat clearing/coughs x3
    Sighs x2 (it's been a long day)
    Humming a simple tune x2

    Idle_1 "Where could that old crone of a washerwoman be lurking now…"
    Idle_2 "By his own hand. Ha. An embarrassment, to him and to his kin."
    Idle_3 "The air is rarely this thick. I wonder what it means to tell us."
    Idle_4 "When we next cross paths I'll put an end to it. For good."
    Idle_5 "Tomorrow will be a long day. I hope the others are prepared as well."
    Idle_6 "Didn’t see her in a long time. I can't complain."
    Idle_7 "I should have taken it with me. No reason not to."
    Idle_8 "They won't be so smug when the land freezes over."

    Idle_9 "Looks like another long night."
    Idle_10 "(sigh) They all want something from me."
    Idle_11 "Another star has faded from the sky. Soon we’ll all be groping in the dark."

    Idle_12 "He who relies on cold metal and dead rock to make his home will freeze to his death in winter."
    Idle_13 "Something needs to happen, soon."

    Idle_shaman_1 "Fire is a mysterious being; it warms our bodies and it burns our dwellings."
    Idle_shaman_2 "Will she heed my pleas? Even she seems to avoid this troubled corner."

    Idle_shaman_3 "The possum takes the hawk's chick and the hawk, mad with rage, takes the possum. That is the way."
    Idle_shaman_4 "The raven disturbed me. It seemed anxious about something… but what?"

    At Alert 0: On the job. Similar to above, but you're working so you're a little more alert.
    Number of Wavs: 3

    alert0_1 "What fool would challenge me?"



    AI States: Alert

     

    To Alert 1/1.5: You notice something subtle but aren't sure what it is. You are mostly talking to yourself, so you should not be particularly loud and may trail off.
    Number of Wavs: 3
    to_alert1_1 "Hm?"
    to_alert1_2 "What...?"

    to_alert1_3 "What’s that?"

    To Alert 1/1.5 + Heard: Same as above, only this one means you notice something auditory.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    to_alert1_sound_1 "Strange sound."

    To Alert 1/1.5 + Saw: Same as above, only you notice something with your sight.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character

    to_alert1_saw_2 "Is that..?"

    to_alert1_saw_shaman_1 "How the shadows twist and bulge this night..."

    To Alert 2: You notice something, and it caught your attention enough to warrant checking it out.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    to_alert2_1 "What is that?"

    to_alert2_2 "Is someone there? Say something."
    to_alert2_3 "Father? Are you here?"

    to_alert2_shaman_1 "Do the spirits seek to commune?"

    To Alert 2 + Heard: You hear something loud which you should investigate. Same as above only now it's specific to hearing.
    to_alert2_sound_1 "That sound has no place here."
    to_alert2_sound_2 "What’s making noise over there?"
    to_alert2_sound_3 "That's no sound of the night."


    To Alert 2 + Saw: You saw something in the shadows which you should investigate. Same as above, only now specific to seeing.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    to_alert2_saw_1 "What's with that shadow?"
    to_alert2_saw_2 "Who skulks in the shadows?"


    To Alert 2 + Company + Heard: You notice something auditory with company.
    to_alert2_soundx2_1 "*Psh*! Listen."
    to_alert2_soundx2_2 "Hear that?"

    To Alert 2 + Company + Saw: You notice something visually amiss with company and start to investigate.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    to_alert2_sawx2_1 "Look! What’s that?"
    to_alert2_sawx2_2 "Careful… there’s something over there."

    Returning to Alert 0, generic: You saw or heard something suspicious, but you can't find any evidence of anything serious. It was probably nothing.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    to_0_1 "Could’ve been a creature. It’s not here anymore.”
    to_0_2 “Curse myself, it was nothing.”

    to_0_3 "There’s nothing here."
    to_0_4 "Must be gone now. Good."

    to_0_5 "That could've been anything… but now it's gone."
    to_0(_shaman)_6 "The dark holds many secrets. This secret will remain one, for now."

    Returning to Alert 0, hearing: As above, but you thought you'd heard something.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    to_0_sound_1 "Quiet again… strange.”

    Returning to Alert 0, sight: As above, but you thought you'd seen something.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    to_0_saw_1 "A curse must be on my eyes. There’s nothing here."
    to_0_saw_2 "I shouldn't be jumping at shadows."
    to_0_saw_3 "A play of shadows, nothing more."


    To Alert 3: You see or hear something that makes it pretty clear that there's someone there, but you don't know exactly who or where they are. You're all business now.
    to_alert3_1 "Stop this trickery!"
    to_alert3_2 "Enough, show yourself!"
    to_alert3_3 "I know you’re here! Who are you?"
    to_alert3_shaman_1 "What spirit communes so directly?"


    Returning to Alert 0, no evidence: You know you saw someone, but you've searched around and can't find them. This bark is played as you give up the search. You still don't know for sure that it was an intruder, but you are highly annoyed.
    Number of Wavs: 5 per character
    to_0_search_1 "Dammit! Who knows what that was? Can’t be good."
    to_0_search_2 "(*Grunt*) The sleeping wolf rarely wakes to a catch…"

    to_0_search_3 "Nothing there… have my senses become dull?"
    to_0_search_4 "The shadows here take on a life of their own."

    Lost Player after Pursuit: You were chasing the intruder when suddenly he disappeared. He can't be far.
    lost_player_1 "Only shade spawn can disappear like that!"
    lost_player_2 "What! Where is he?"
    lost_player_3 "Witchcraft!"


    Return to Alert 1, evidence: You have confirmed there is an intruder but he's given you the slip. You've searched for him, but haven't been able to find him. You're giving up for now but you aren't letting your guard down.
    Number of Wavs: 5 per character
    to_0_spotted_1 "I’ll have your head, be sure of that!"
    to_0_spotted_2 "He's careless. He’ll show himself again."

    to_0_spotted_3 “The others better not hear about this.”
    to_0_spotted_4 "This isn’t over yet… I’ll find you, now or later."
    to_0_spotted_5 "Curses! Who knows where he’s lurking now."

    Return with help, spot player: You have run away from the player, gotten help, and returned. The player is still there, so you order the help forward.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    gotten_help_1 "There he is! Kill him!"
    gotten_help_2 "He’s still here! Quickly!"


    Return with help, lost player: You have returned with help but the player is no longer visible.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    gotten_help_gone_1 "He was here, find him!"
    gotten_help_gone_2
    "Search all the shadows!"
    gotten_help_gone_3 "He's still here, I'm sure of it!"

    Recently Saw Player: You just saw the player not too long ago, but the player escaped. Now, you're telling your comrade that there is an intruder and that you have seen him.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    saw_playerx2_1 "A spy of the enemy is hiding in the shadows!"
    saw_playerx2_2 "Keep your weapons ready. Tonight we spill outsider’s blood."
    saw_playerx2_3 "Watch every shadow: a foe skulks among us like a rat."


    Suspicious, warn friend: You have seen non-specific evidence of an intruder, and are warning a friend about it.
    warning01 "Be wary, evil lurks nearby."
    warning02 "Do not take your eyes off the dark, it might be the last thing you do."

    warning03 "Hostile eyes are watching us this night. Do not rest."


     


    AI States: Searching
     

    You are actively looking for the intruder, and are either muttering to yourself or taunting them.

    Investigate Alert 3: You've seen enough to know that there is somebody there, but you're not 100% sure that it's an intruder. Still, anyone hiding from you must be up to no good.
    Number of Wavs: 5 per character
    search3_1 "I know every nook, every cranny. You can’t hide from me!”

    search3_2 “Enough of this! Show yourself!”
    search3_3 "Come out, so I can see what you are."
    search3_4 "Be you man, beast or spirit, I’m not afraid of you!"
    search3_5 "Don’t count on the darkness to hide you from me."

    search3_shaman_1 "Only a deeply troubled spirit would seek my attention so openly."

    Investigate Alert 4: You know for sure there is an intruder, and you're looking for him.
    Number of Wavs: 5 per character
    search4_1 "The shadows are a thin barrier between you and my wrath."
    search4_2 "This is your death, outsider."

    search4_3 “Just you wait ‘til I’m done with you.”

    search4_4 "My eyes pierce this darkness!"
    search4_5 “Come out, or do I have to hunt you like a rabbit?”
    search4shaman_1 "Come into my arms, lost one, so I may embrace you this cold night."

     

     

     

    Combat and Pursuit

    You have spotted the player and identified him as an intruder. You are either attacking, or preparing to attack. If you're a noncombatant, you're getting ready to flee. Either way you want to draw a lot of attention to yourself, so you are generally shouting loudly.

    Spotted the Player, combatant: You see the player and are charging to attack.
    Number of Wavs: 5 per character
    spotted_combat_1 "Wail with pain!"
    spotted_combat_2 "I will end you!”
    spotted_combat_3 "Your life ends here!"
    spotted_combat_4 "Nothing can save you now!"
    spotted_combat_5 "Haha, I've been waiting for this!"


    Spotted the Player, combatant, with help: You're with friends when you finally spot the player.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    spotted_combatx2_1 "He’s there!”
    spotted_combatx2_2 "I see him!"


    Spotted the Player with a Body, combatant: You see the player carrying a dead or unconscious person.
    Number of Wavs: 1 per character
    spotted_combat_body_1 "Foul necromancer!"

    Spotted the Player, noncombatant: You're not prepared for a fight. You see the player and are preparing to flee.
    Number of Wavs: 5 per character
    spotted_civilian_1 "He is here, and armed!"
    spotted_civilian_2 "The raiders are here!"
    spotted_civilian_3 "A thief! A thief!"


    Killed Player: You've won the fight. Taunt the player as he lies dying at your feet.
    killed_player01 "The shaman will be pleased."
    killed_player02 "Is that all?"
    killed_player03 "Already dead? *grunt*"
    killed_player04 "This one is for the vultures."


    Running Away for help: You're fleeing, either because you don't know how to fight, or you tried to fight and are badly hurt. Call out to for help.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    fleeing_1 "No, not like this!"
    fleeing_2 "Stay away, outsider filth!"
    fleeing_3 "There’s an intruder!"


    Coming to assist: A comrade called for help (or you heard sounds of a fight) and you are on your way to assist them.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    combat_assist_1 "I'm on my way!"
    combat_assist_2 "Keep him busy!"


    Frustrated: The player is out of reach (such as standing on a stack of crates or across a chasm) and you can't reach him.
    Number of Wavs: 4 per character
    frustrated_1 "Get back here!"
    frustrated_2 "Pathetic! I expect nothing else from lowly outsider spawn."
    frustrated_3 "Is this how your men fight? Coward!"
    frustrated_4 "I’ll get to you, just you wait!"


    Throw Object at Player: The player is out of reach (such as standing on a stack of crates) and you can't reach him. You're angry and throw something.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    missile_generic_1 "Take that!"
    missile_generic_2 "Try dodging this!"


    Shooting: You're shooting arrows at the player.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    archer_1 "Let this be a thorn in your side."
    archer_2 "This one is for the heart."
    archer_shaman_1 "The wind obeys my bow."


    Attacking : You're grunting and attacking
    attacking_1 "Ha!!"
    attacking_2 "Arg!"


    Combat, winning: You are winning the fight and take a moment to taunt your opponent. These need to be said quickly, as the fight is still going on.
    attacking_hit_1 "Clumsy fool."
    attacking_hit_2 "Didn’t see that coming?"
    attacking_hit_3 "And again!"


    Die Quiet: You got assassinated or blackjacked and are going down. Make a grunt, but as the name suggests, it's kind of quiet. This should only be about a second in length.
    die_quiet_1 "UNH"
    die_quiet_2 "Arg"
    die_quiet_3 "HHnnnn..."


    Die Loud: Yep. You're dead. Theatrics are welcomed here, though not too over the top. This should be about 2 - 4 seconds in length.
    die_loud_1 "AHHHHHHHHHH"
    die_loud_2 "Arggghh"


    Blinded: You have been blinded by a flash of light.
    Number of Wavs: 1 per character.
    blinded_1 "My eyes!"

    Gassed: You have been gassed. Cough, sputter and pass out. This should be quick-a second or two at most (it's fast gas). Coughing can be shared among characters
    Number of Wavs: 1
    gassed_1 "…cough cough"

    Drowning: You are drowning. Gurgle and choke.
    Number of Wavs: 1
    drowning_1 "Gurgle"


     


    Finding Evidence

    You have found or observed something that looks out of place. You aren't seeing or hearing the player, but something that might be a sign that an intruder was here earlier. Since you don't expect anyone is nearby, you're mostly talking to yourself.

    Suspicious Item, Generic: There is something nearby which should not be there or something which is amiss (such as when a guard notices that a chair is knocked over). It's strange, and strange things always make you a bit suspicious.
    Number of Wavs: 4 per character
    suspicious_item_1 "Someone was here… who..?"
    suspicious_item_2 "That didn’t move by itself."
    suspicious_item_3 "Strange… that's not the way I remember it."
    suspicious_item_4 "Something's not right…"



    Notice Weapon: There is a weapon lying around. How did it get there?
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    notice_weapon_1 "Who would leave his weapons behind?"
    notice_weapon_2 "Why is this weapon lying here?"


    Notice Door Open: There is a door open that shouldn't be.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    notice_door_1 "That shouldn't be open."
    notice_door_2 "Why is that open?"
    notice_door_3 "Who left that open?"


    Notice lights off, generic: The lights are off, but shouldn't be--these can be used for all types of light.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    notice_lights_1 "Hehe… his life will be extinguished in the same way."
    notice_lights_2 "The shadows weren't this deep before."
    notice_lights_3 "What happened to the light?"


    Notice lights out, flame: You notice a torch or candle that should be lit has gone out.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    notice_lights_flame_1 "That flame should've burned longer."
    notice_lights_flame_2 "That was lit when I last saw it."
    notice_lights_flame_3 "A stiff breeze? No, can't be…"


    Relight light, flame: You notice that a light source is out. You relight it.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    light_relight_1 "Already too many shadows for something to hide."
    light_relight_2 "No one else will relight this."
    light_relight_shaman_1 "The shades will cast this realm in darkness, if nothing is done."


    Refuse to relight Torch: You notice that a flame is out. Refuse to relight it.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    light_refuse_1 "Relighting this is women's work."
    light_refuse_2 "It will go out by itself again if I relight it."
    light_refuse_3 "I can't relight every light the moment it goes out."
    light_refuse_4 "Why should *I* relight this?"


    Notice Blood on Floor: There is blood on the floor. Obviously something serious is going on.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    notice_blood_1 "Blood?"
    notice_blood_2 "Who's blood was spilled here?"


    Found Generic Body: You find a body on the ground.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    notice_body_generic_1 "Foul creatures are at work!"
    notice_body_generic_2 "Are you well?"


    Found Female Body: You find the body of a woman on the ground.
    Number of Wavs: 1 per character
    notice_body_female_1 "A woman has fallen; the baseness."

    Found Male Body: You find the body of a man on the ground.
    Number of Wavs: 1 per character
    notice_body_male_1 "Whoever felled this man did not finish his task."

    Found Body Dead: You find a body of someone obviously dead.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    notice_dead_1 "Life has left this body."
    notice_dead_2 "Dead."
    notice_dead_3 "The killer can't be far."
    notice_dead_(shaman?)_1 "I doubt life can be breathed back into this body."


    Found Female Body Dead: You find the dead body of a woman on the ground.
    Number of Wavs: 1 per character
    notice_dead_female_1 "Life has left her body."
    notice_dead_female_2 "I doubt life can be returned to her body."


    Found Male Body Dead: You found a man, dead on the ground.
    Number of Wavs: 1 per character
    notice_dead_male_1 "Dead. But I wasn't the one who killed him…"
    notice_dead_male_2 "I doubt life can be returned to his body."


    Found Body comrade: You find a comrade, dead on the ground. You are outraged.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    notice_dead_friend_1 "Heads will roll for this!"
    notice_dead_friend_2 "I will slay a hundred to avenge you!"
    notice_dead_friend_3 "Where is the slayer!? Show yourself!"


    Recently Found Body: You recently found a body and are relaying the information to a friend.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    notice_deadx2_1 "Be alert, we are being preyed upon!"
    notice_deadx2_1 "The shadows are taking their toll. Be wary."


    Had pocket picked: You had something on your belt, and now it's gone! That's pretty suspicious...though it's possible it *might* have fallen off, so it's not absolute proof of an intruder.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    notice_pickpocket_1 "What… where's it gone?"
    notice_pickpocket_2 "It can't have fallen off…"
    notice_pickpocket_3 "Gone? But how?"


    Found Something Missing: There is something significant missing that shouldn't be. You've obviously been robbed and you know it.
    Number of Wavs: 3 per character
    notice_absence_1 "It mustn't fall into the enemy's hands!"
    notice_absence_2 "No! It was taken!"
    notice_absence_3 "It was stolen!"


    Recently Found Something Missing: You know you've been robbed and you're telling your buddy about it.
    Number of Wavs: 2 per character
    notice_absencex2_1 "We have been plundered! Don't let the thief get away!"
    notice_absencex2_2 "It's gone! Find the thief!"

     

     

     

     

    Greetings

    Greeting, Guard to Guard: You spot a social equal who is a guard, on patrol. You greet them casually.
    greeting_guardxguard_1 "Seen anything?"

    Greeting, Guard to Civilian: You spot a civilian/servant while you're working. No time to chat; they need to know how important your job is.
    greeting_guardxcivilian_1 "Stay away from trouble."
    greeting_guardxcivilian_2 "Tell me if you notice something."


    Greeting, Superior: You spot someone who is high on the social ladder and greet them.
    greeting_xnobleman_1 "Your lordship."
    greeting_xpagannobleman_1 "May your sons be many and strong."


    greeting_xnoblewoman_1 "M'lady."
    greeting_xpagannoblewoman_1 "The stars shine in your eyes."


    greeting_xpriest_1 "May your god give you strength."
    greeting_xpaganpriest_1 "Do the stars bode well?"


    Greeting Generic: A casual greeting
    greeting_civilianxcivilian_1 "Good eve."
    greeting_civilianxcivilian_2 "Evening."


    Greeting Inferior. You're a noble and see a civilian. You're better than them.
    greeting_noblemanxcivilian_1 "Stay away."
    greeting_noblemanxcivilian_2 "What do you want?"


    Greeting inferior guard. You're a noble and see a guard. Evaluate their performance.
    greeting_noblemanxguard_1 "Only strong arms will slay many foes."
    greeting_noblemanxguard_2 "Keep your weapons ready."
    greeting_noblemanxguard_3 "Never let down your guard."


    Generic Responses: These should be said fairly monotone and noncommittal, as they could be replies to many different greetings.
    response_1 "Mhm." (yes)
    response_2 "Hm."
    response_3 "Right."
    response_4 "If you say so."
    response_5 "Ye."

    Thank you ! Truth be told, the stuff I have listed in my opening post still needs some editing (e.g. the number of times some lines should be replicated, with different emphasis or diction).

    I'd also like to thank you for your own detailed suggestions ! I'll definitely go through these, consider
    them and try to expand my own post with the ones I feel fit best. You have a lot of real keepers in your suggestions, so I'm expecting I'll include a lot of them. :) Obviously, as this is a work in progress vocal set, we can still keep expanding it and trimming it down, until it starts feeling really right.

    Yes, as a I also describe to Spingheel below, and in my opening post, I am intentionally going for a "more general" feel for the Pagans, while also keeping in mind they will have some variations. Genuine old-school tribesmen will use some different turns of phrase than village or urban Pagans who worship in secret.

    (Looking at real world history, I think the latter, "secret" group wouldn't be that numerous either way, as most people were Christianised throughout Europe for most of the Middle Ages, after 1000. The only exception to this was your usual folkloric syncretism, where some pre-Christian folk rituals were still carried out annually purely out of tradition or ongoing superstition, even though the populace was firmly monotheistic and Christian.  That's basically the situation we still have today, even in countries where these sorts of folkloric rituals haven't been that strong or visible for a long time. Though you also did have some "secret pagans" in the medieval and early modern world - the sorts that still engaged in (sometimes gruesome) folk magic - they weren't that common. Or they were otherwise Christian (at least nominally), but weren't above doing pagan rituals, if they were superstitious enough to think these would help. Corrollary to the more gruesome uses of folk magic rituals: I've read archaeology studies about cases of ritual murders happening as late as the 16th century, even in very civilised parts of Europe, among decidedly non-tribal people. As usual with faith, things can get complicated, depending on an individual's beliefs, worldviews and pragmatism. E.g. if someone who sees themselves as a monotheist isn't above occassionally engaging in superstitions that might harm or even kill other people, purely for the sake of some "good luck" ritual, they'll probably do it. Even if it is hypocritical. I think this would be nicely reflective of the fact that neither the Builder faith nor any "old gods" faiths in TDM's world are without flawed human behaviour. This would actually mirror the inspiration we take from Thief well: Neither the Hammerites or the Pagans of that series were shown purely as good guys or bad guys, they were simply people, flawed and fallible people. Equally noble-minded and craven/corrupt, depending on the situation. Sometimes, the same individuals did good and bad things, punctuating that whole moral greyness. Some characters of those factions were pleasant, kind, wise, others were thoroughly cruel and evil bastards. And with the stuff I mention above, I think TDM could be really good if it had antagonistic characters that sort of straddle the line between the old polytheistic faith and new monotheistic faith, being never entirely faithful to either, and causing tension and conflict as a result.

    On 12/12/2019 at 6:34 PM, Springheel said:

    When I was writing the scripts I would usually have a series of "default" lines for each bark, and then one or two "specialty" ones that can be added for specific character types.  For example, there are default "Commander" vocals, but there are also "City Watch Commander" vocals, which are about 80% the same lines, but with a few extra thrown in relating to citywatch related things.

    You could do the same with pagans, and have both urban and non-urban, that share 80% of the lines.

    Thank you kindly. :) This is exactly what I was getting at. Have a single vocal set, but like the others, allow for some (for lack of a better term) "sub-faction" variations.

    I'd also like to add I need to come up with a consistent rendering of using thou/thy/thee and you/your in the lines I wrote. Either the Pagan guy goes for the more archaic or folksy adress, or the more neutral one. I think he could use the more archaic stuff while greeting Builders (while keeping his distance) or certain other social groups, but that it shouldn't otherwise be used much, to avoid feeling forced.

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  12. 2 hours ago, Destined said:

    I have read some time ago (or maybe someone told me? I forgot) that the current American accent is actually closer to the old British one than the current British accent, because it had less development compared to the English language in Great Britain. So, if you want an accent that is close to older English, you would have to use a North American accent.

    Yes, it is. The US and Canadian vocabulary also includes some traditional English and overall British terms that have become antiquated in the UK or shifted meaning since (the word "fall", for autumn, is a famous example of a now-antiquated-in-the-UK term). The high amount of "surname surname" style names in the US and Canada, to this day (whereas very rare now in the UK), is a consequence of a 16th-18th century fad (mainly among the English) to give sons personal names based on the maiden surnames of their mothers (in order to "preserve them", symbolically, even after marriage). Hence, even nowadays, you can have guys named Harrison Ford, and so on. That old tradition simply stuck for longer in North America, among some other antiquated-in-Europe elements of English. Also, the North American accents are not entirely identical to early modern English. They are just far closer-sounding, even today, than the phonetics of more standard forms of British English. The regional dialects of British English often still have a lot of the traditional pronunciation and accent elements that were taken to the New World centuries ago and evolved separately. I've heard a lot of the New Englander accents evolved from southern English local accents, heard among the early colonists, and were also influenced by later Scottish English, to a degree. The Texan accent, in turn, was apparently at least somewhat influenced by the Somerset regional accent from the southwest, among others.

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  13. 6 hours ago, NeonsStyle said:

    The main reason I think it shouldn't be North American/Canadian is because the game is based in Europe. One of the British accents would

    fit better I think. We are talking Medieval, and America wasn't discovered at that time, so it really doesn't fit the period. I've nothing against

    Americans of course. I love that country, though not the current leadership lol.

    As for What is a Jewish Accent. This is what I meant. It's very stereotypical.

    Loads of the vocal sets already have male voices with a North American accent. Especially the guards, if you listen to them.

    The New World has also been discovered in the TDM world, but that's besides the point. It's still a fantasy setting, so some anachronisms are tolerable. They have magic and an early industrial revolution, which is already ahistorical. (The North American accent thing for some characters is a homage to Thief.)

    I'd prefer a British accent for the Schemer. The British accent itself is unlike what an early modern English accent would sound like. Even Elizabethan era commoner English, like the sort Shakespeare used to a great extent, sounds quite unlike a modern British accent. A lot of the puns don't work in a modern British accent, due to different pronunciation ! Go back two hundred years earlier and you'll get lost even in Chaucer's relatively understandable Middle English.

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  14. So, already a few weeks ago, I started writing a Pagan vocal script concept. I took the master template for new VS-s, wrote down ideas already brainstormed on the side, then read closely through the VS to see where some would fit, and what other lines I could insert and expand upon. I try to keep the lines short and snappy, but interesting enough.

    Before I even started, I read all the past discussions on this topic, made notes of other peoples' existing suggestions. Just to have a point of comparison, both for what I might try for my script, and for what I wouldn't (because it would not fit tonally). 

    Much has been discussed on how to avoid making the Pagan characters sound like caricatures, either in speech style, or in overdone references to nature/deities/etc. They're not meant to be "New Age tree-hugger hippies", they're meant to be realistic-sounding individuals. As The Dark Mod's lore includes nuances such as Pagans being not only some yet-untamed "barbarian" tribesmen outside of the Empire, but also some hidden Pagans among the commoners in cities/towns and villages/rural hamlets, I had to account for that while putting together the script. You'll see more of my rationale once I expand this post in the near future, when I have the concept script fully ready. For the time being, let's just say I tried to avoid too many overt references to nature and pre-Builder folk religion.

    Ergo, as it wouldn't make sense for an urban Pagan from the City's narrow alleys and slums to talk about, e.g. mighty stags on a forest meadow (or something like that), I try to make any and all nature references more down-to-earth and subtle. Example, AI alerted and searching for a hiding tresspasser: "Where have you scurried to, little mouse ? Where, oh where, have you scurried to ?" No diminutives, no plant and magic references in every second word, but you still have this vague indication the guy in question might be more of a nature-worshipper in private than a Builder monotheist. (Not that Builder-faithful wouldn't have an appreciation for nature, it's just that the views of it would differ somewhat, on a psychological/cultural level.) There are some lines about spirits or natural forces and so on too, but most of the other lines are such that they could work for any commoner in a rural or urban setting.

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    This entire vocal script concept is readable below. For the sake of quicker readability, I have divided the entire overview with the use of spoilers, based on the sections of the vocal script.

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    BASIC INFORMATION ON THE VOCAL SCRIPT ("Pagan male / Tribesman")

    Spoiler

    Line Title: ["sound def name"]

    Actor direction

     filename, "example line" x suggested # of lines

    Total Lines: approx 270 (including grunts and coughs)

     Sound files should be in .wav format, mono, 44100 project rate,

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    Tone and Attitude

    Dialogue should be generally modern, North American English, but with a slight renaissance flavour. The more educated the character, the more renaissance-speak is appropriate. Avoid modern-sounding words and phrases (eg, "What's up?" "Roger that" or "I'm going to kick your ass"). But at the same time, this isn't Shakespeare--the dialogue has to sound fairly natural to modern English speakers.

    AI Characters

    In order to create a variety of character types, vocal sets will be created for various "characters". A character, in this sense, is a distinctive voice, personality, and way of speaking.

    „Pagan man / Tribesman“ – poorly educated and rural; refers to old gods and mystical beliefs; or a member of one of the remote tribes still untamed by The Empire

    AI STATES: Relaxed

    Spoiler

    Relaxed, Idle: ["snd_relaxed"]

    You're relaxed and going about your regular business. You aren’t expecting any trouble. You’re talking to yourself, so lines should be muttered in a low tone of voice, and punctuated with sighs, pauses and mumbling.

    idle01 "*sigh* A few more hours to go…." x10

    Throat clearing/ coughs x3

    Sighs x2 (you’ve had a long day)

    Humming and/or whistling an idle tune x2

    Sneeze x1

     

    Relaxed, Armed: ["snd_relaxed"]

    You're an armed character, probably a guard on patrol. You’re not expecting any trouble, but are ready to defend yourself if necessary. You are muttering to yourself about your shift or other combat-related concerns.

    idle_guard01 "Oh. This guard duty isn’t as fun as I thought.” x2

    idle_guard02 *brief sigh* "Why do I always have to end up doing guard duty ?”

     

    Sleeping: ["snd_sleeping" ]

    You're fast asleep and dreaming. A few snores, maybe a mumbled word or two.

    sleeping01 x2

    sleeping02 *snoring* „Mmm... tasty mead...“ *snoring*

     

    Reacting to World: ["snd_reaction" ] ["snd_state3"]

    You are relaxed, and have just looked at something non-suspicious, like a book, or a playing card, or your reflection in a mirror. You make a grunt or comment, either pleased or not. Currently these lines are used primarily for AI playing cards—they make a comment after looking at their new card. They should be delivered without too much emotion.

    reaction01 “Argh...” [annoyed] x4

     AI STATES: Alert

    These barks are meant to tell the player that the AI has seen or heard something.

    Spoiler

    Observant: ["snd_alert1" ] ["snd_notice_generic"]

    You notice something subtle but aren’t sure what it is. Doesn't seem like anything serious. You are talking to yourself, so you should not be particularly loud and may trail off.

    to_observant01 "Hm?" x4

     

    Observe a Sound: ["snd_alert1h" ]

    Same as above, only these lines refer specifically to a sound.

    to_observant_heard01 "Whaaa... (cut short) Some... rustling ?"

    to_observant_heard02 "What is that ?!" x2

     

    Observe a Sight: ["snd_alert1s"]

    Same as above, only these lines refer specifically to seeing something.

    to_observant_saw01 "Huh... Did I see something?" x2

     

    Notice Something: ["snd_alert3" ]

    You notice something suspicious, and it caught your attention enough to warrant going over to check it out. You’re still not sure what it is, and you’re still mostly talking to yourself, but you're less casual now.

    to_searching01 "What's that over there?" x4

     

    Notice A Sound: ["snd_alert3h" ]

    As above, you hear something loud enough to make you want to investigate.

    to_searching_heard01 "What or who made that noise?" x2

    to_searching_heard02 "If this is one of your foolish jokes..."

     

    Notice A Sight: ["snd_alert3s" ]

    As above, you see a brief motion in the shadows. Better check it out just in case.

    to_searching_saw01 "What's that in the shadows….? “ x2

     

    Notice A Sound, with company: ["snd_alert3hc" ]

    You're with friends and you hear something loud enough to make you want to investigate, even though it’s probably nothing serious.

    searching_heard_company01 "What ! Did you hear that ?!" x2

     

    Notice A Sight, with company: ["snd_alert3sc" ]

    You're with friends and you see a brief motion in the shadows. Probably nothing, but you should investigate.

     

    searching_saw_company01 "By the spirits ! Did you see that ?" x2

     

    Settling Down: ["snd_alertdown0" ]

    You noticed something, but you haven’t found anything to worry about. It was probably nothing, and you’re going back to whatever you were doing. These lines are muttered to yourself.

    alertdown_to_idle01 "Hmmm, nothing now...." x3

     

    Settling Down after hearing something: ["snd_alertdown0h" ]

    As above, but lines refer to hearing. Whatever it was is gone now. Go back to your business.

    alertdown_to_idle_heard01 "The spirits were playing tricks on me."

    alertdown_to_idle_heard02 "Naah, it was... nothing. (beat) I hope."

    alertdown_to_idle_heard03 "Maybe a real mouse after all. It already scurried away."

     

    Settling Down after seeing something: ["snd_alertdown0s" ]

    As above, but lines refer to seeing. You caught a glimpse of something moving, but it appears to be nothing. Moving on.

    alertdown_to_idle_saw01 "A trick of the light and the shadows." x2

     

    Settling Down after noticing something suspicious: ["snd_alertdown0sus"]

    You saw something suspicious---an open door or a rope hanging down--and have searched the area. You can't find any intruder, but you're sure something is afoot. These lines are muttered to yourself.

    alertdown_to_idle_suspicious01 "Hm. No one, then. I’ll stay watchful." x2

    alertdown_to_idle_suspicious02 "No one after all. But I’ll be ready for any rat that dares intrude."

     

    Alerted by Something: ["snd_alert4NoEvidence"]

    You notice something that makes it clear that there's someone there, but you don't know exactly who they are. You don’t know for sure that there’s a threat, but you’re all business now, and your lines are directed to the mystery figure in the shadows.

    to_agitated_searching_noevidence01 “Let’s not have any trouble…come on out so I can see you.” x4

     

    Alerted by Intruder: ["snd_alert4" ]

    You suddenly see or hear something that makes it clear there’s someone there, and you already have enough evidence to know that it’s an intruder. These lines are an aggressive challenge to the hiding enemy.

    to_agitated_searching01 "Enough ! Who goes there?!"

    to_agitated_searching02 "Hey ! Who’s sneaking about ?!"

    to_agitated_searching03 "Argh ! Maybe you’re no mouse, but a rat..."

     

    Idle, On Guard: ["snd_alert_idle" ]

    You've seen an intruder or been told that there is one. You're on your regular patrol, but you’re no longer relaxed. You’ve got your weapon out, and you’re ready for trouble at a moment’s notice. You’re muttering to yourself.

    alert_idle01 "I fear no intruder." x2

    alert_idle02 "Spirits help those who dare cross my path !"

    AI STATES: Searching

    Spoiler

    Searching for Someone: ["snd_state4SeenNoEvidence" ]

    You’ve seen or heard enough to know that there’s someone around here, hiding. It might not be a threat, but if they’re hiding, then they’re obviously up to no good. You’re looking around for them. These lines are stern and generally directed at the hiding figure.

    searching_no_evidence01 "Where have you scurried to, little mouse ?"

    searching_no_evidence02 *mild creepy laugh* "Little mouse... Where, oh where, have you scurried to ?"

    searching_no_evidence03 "I am patient. The spirits will guide me to you."

     

    Searching for Someone with company: ["snd_state4SeenNoEvidence_c" ]

    As above, but you're with friends.

    "The hunt has begun, we search for our prey." x1

    "Scurry around, little mouse, but we will find you." x1

    "We are great trackers. There’s no escape." x1

     

    Give Orders to Friends ["snd_giveOrder"]

    You're searching for someone when friends arrive. Give them something to do.

    "Psht. Have a look there." x2

    "Go look there, friend. We’ll find that rat." x1

     

    Giving up after search: ["snd_alertdown0SeenNoEvidence" ]

    You’re pretty sure you saw somebody, but you've searched around and can't find anyone. This bark is played as you give up the search. You still don’t know for sure that it was an intruder, but you are pretty annoyed. You’re talking to yourself.

    alertdown_to_idle_no_evidence01 "Fools and their mischief..." x2

     

    Agitated Searching: ["snd_state4SeenEvidence" ]

    You know for sure there is an intruder around, and you’re looking for him. You’re deadly serious now. Your lines are directed at the intruder himself.

    searching_evidence01 "No hollow or hiding place will save you." x1

    searching_evidence02 "I have the eyes of a hawk, don’t think I won’t see you."  x1

    searching_evidence03 "Don’t be afraid... Come out of your hiding place." x1

    searching_evidence04 "I mean you no harm. (more sinisterly) Be brave  and come out." x1

    searching_evidence05 "Come into the light, you foolish thing. There’s no hinding from me." x1

    searching_evidence06 "The mighty spirits are on my side ! You won’t get away !" x1

    searching_evidence07 "Be a man, and show yourself ! I am starting to tire of your foolish games..."

     

    Agitated Searching with company: ["snd_state4SeenEvidence_c" ]

    As above, but you're with friends. Your lines are either directed at the intruder or suggestions for your comrades.

    "You search there, I’ll go smoke out that rat over here!" x1

    "Some hunting practice, friend. We’ll show our prey..." x1

    "Fool of a man ! Do you really think you can get away ?!" x2

    "Scurry around all you like, your pelt and skin are our’s." x1

    "Foolish, foolish, little prey... The hunters are on your trail..." (brief laugh) x1

     

    Agitated Searching, unarmed: ["snd_state4SeenEvidence" ]

    You know for sure there is an intruder around, and you’re looking for him. You're unarmed though, so you’re not really sure you want to find him. You’re directing the lines at the intruder, and you should sound somewhat uncertain.

    searching_evidence_civilian01 “Hey, I know someone is hiding here…what do you want?” x4

     

    Giving up after Agitated Search: ["snd_alertdown0SeenEvidence" ]

    You have confirmed there is an intruder but he's given you the slip. You've searched for him, but haven't been able to find him. You're giving up for now but you aren't letting your guard down. These lines are primarily delivered in a frustrated tone of voice.

    alertdown_to_idle_seen_evidence01 "Blasted rat ! He has scurried away..." x2

     

    Giving up after Agitated Search, unarmed: ["snd_alertdown0SeenEvidence" ]

    You know there’s an intruder around, and you looked for him and didn’t find anyone. You don’t have a weapon, so you are rather relieved that you don’t have to deal with an armed criminal.

    alertdown_to_idle_seen_evidence_civilian01 “Whatever it was, it has left. Good !” x3

     alertdown_to_idle_seen_evidence_civilian02 "It is gone... Spirits protect me from bad luck.” x1

     

    Joining a Search: ["snd_helpSearch"]

    You find some friends already searching for an intruder. You join them.

    "An intruder ?! I will help you search, friends." x1

     

    Ask for Help: ***** No Def Currently ****

    You’re in trouble; you found a guard and are telling him to come with you.

     "Quickly, quickly ! Youre the better warrior !" x1

     

    Return with Help: ***** No Def Currently ****

    You’re not equipped to fight, so you ran away from the intruder, got help, and came back. The intruder is still here, so you point him out.

    gotten_help01 "See, just like I told you. Get him!" x1

     

    Return too late with Help: ***** No Def Currently ****

    You went and got help, but by the time you got back the intruder was gone. You’re flustered and upset.

    gotten_help_gone01 "He was right here…look sharp, he’s probably hiding!" x1

    COMBAT AND PURSUIT

    Spoiler

    Spotted the Intruder, armed: ["snd_to_combat"] ["snd_to_combat_monster"]

    You have come face to face with the intruder. You are pulling out your weapon and getting ready to charge. These lines are shouted to the intruder.

    to_combat01 "Lay down your arms and give up. There is honour in defeat." x5

     

    Spotted the Intruder, armed, with company: ["snd_to_combat_company"] ["snd_to_combat_company_monster"]

    You have spotted the intruder and are getting ready to charge. Luckily, you have some friends with you.

    to_combat_company01 "Hark ! Look, friends ! A thieving magpie!" x2

     

    Spotted the Intruder with a body, armed: ["snd_spotted_player_with_body" ]

    You see the intruder, and he’s carrying a body! The fiend!

    spotted_player_with_body01 "Who have you slain, foul rat !!! Drop them or drop dead!" x1

     

    Spotted the Intruder, unarmed: ["snd_to_flee" ]

    You have spotted the intruder. Oh no! He’s got a whole bunch of weapons, and you don’t have any! You are panicking and getting ready to run, and are yelling for help.

    to_flee_civilian01 "Help, there's an intruder!" x3

     

    Lost Player after Pursuit: ["snd_lostTrackOfEnemy" ]

    You are chasing the intruder when suddenly he disappears. How did that happen? He can’t be far.

    lost_track_of_enemy01 “Hey! Now where did you go?” x3

     

    Hit by Arrow: ["snd_taking_fire" ]

    You’ve been hit by an arrow from an unseen foe. You’re hurt and angry. You might be calling out for help or shouting at your attacker.

    hit_by_arrow01 “I do not fear your cowardly barbs, you rat ! Come out !!!” x2

     

    Running Away: ["snd_flee" ]

    You’re unarmed and are running away as fast as you can, but the intruder is coming after you! This is life or death, so you’re shouting in panic to anyone who can hear you.

    flee01 "Aid me, friends ! Aid me!" x2

     

    Running Away, hurt: ["snd_flee" ]

    You’re armed and have been badly wounded by the intruder. You’re running away as fast as you can, yelling for help or begging for mercy.

    flee_hurt01 “You are the greater warrior ! You’ve bested me..." x3

     

    Running Away, event: ["snd_to_flee_event" ]

    You've seen something terrible, like a man killed right in front of you, and you're running away.

    to_flee_event01 "Arh, the spirits do not favour me today!" x2

     

    Coming to Assist: ["snd_assistFriend" ] (is this used?)

    A friend of yours is in a fight and you are on your way to help them. You call out to let them know you're coming.

    assist_friend01 "I'm running to you, friend! We will fight side by side!" x2

     

    Fighting: ["snd_combat_melee"]

    You're locked in deadly combat with an intruder. These lines are delivered as you swing your weapon, so should be quick and full of a sense of action.

    combat_melee01 Generic combat grunts (“hyaarh!”) x5

     

    Fighting, winning: ["snd_combat_hit_player" ]

    You are locked in combat with the intruder, and have just bashed him with your weapon. You take a moment to taunt your opponent. These need to be said quickly, as the fight is still going on.

    combat_hit_player01 "The spirits shall guide thee to the underworld !" x3

     

    Fighting, winning, with company: ["snd_combat_hit_player_company" ]

    As above, but you have friends in the fight.

    combat_hit_player_company01 "Rest, my friends ! I have slain this little rat!" x1

     

    Fighting, losing: ["snd_combat_blocked_by_player"]

    You are locked in combat with the intruder, and he has just hit or blocked you. You realize this might not be as easy as you thought. These lines should be short.

    tdm_ai_pro_combat_blocked_by_player01 “Oh, ha, ha ! Brave, but hardly a warrior !” x3

     

    Pain: ["snd_pain_small"] ["snd_pain_large"]

    Something just hurt you. Ouch!

    tdm_ai_pro_pain_small01-03 Small grunts (“ow!”) x3

    tdm_ai_pro_pain_large01-03 Serious pain (“Aaaaiieee!”) x3

     

    Throw Something at Intruder: ["combat_throw"]

    The intruder is visible, but you can’t get to him. You're angry and throw something.

    combat_throw01 "Feast on this !" x2

     

    Shoot Arrow: ["combat_ranged"]

    You're an archer, shooting arrows at the intruder.

    combat_archer01 "Barb, take flight…." x1

     

    Frustrated: ["snd_cantReachTarget"] ["snd_cantReachTargetMonster"]

    The intruder is out of reach (such as standing on a stack of crates or across a chasm) and you can't reach him. You don’t have anything to throw at the moment.

    enemy_out_of_reach01 "You think you're safe there? Come here and fight me!" x2

     

    Killed Intruder: ["snd_killed_enemy"] ["snd_killed_monster"]

    You’ve won the fight. Taunt the intruder as he lays dying at your feet. Make sure at least one line can be used for non-human opponents.

    killed_enemy01 “Ha ! You’re no warrior !” x3

     

    Die, Quiet: ["snd_knockout" ]

    You didn’t see it coming, but someone just hit you from behind and took you down. Make a grunt, but as the name suggests, it's kind of quiet.

    die_quiet_1 "UNH" x3

     

    Die, Loud: ["snd_death" ]

    You’ve just been killed in battle by an armed intruder. These lines should be start with a loud scream of pain, then sputter your dying words (if any).

    die_loud01 "ARGHAHHRGGHRGR" x3

     

    Die, Drowning ["snd_death_liquid"]

    You've drowned. Gurgle.

     drown01 "gurgle" x1

     

    Blinded: ["snd_blinded" ]

    You have been blinded by a flash of light.

    blinded01 "Ah, by the spirits ! What rotten sorcery is this ! My eyeees !" x1

     

    Hit By the Player No Damage: ["snd_failed_knockout" ]

    The player tried to blackjack you but failed. What an idiot.

    failed_ko01 "Umpf... Ha, ha ! A measly little club in your hand !" x1

     

    Gassed: ["snd_airGasp"]

    You have been caught in knockout gas. Cough, sputter and pass out. This should be quick--a second or two at most (it's fast gas).

    cough_noair01 "..cough cough" x1

    FINDING EVIDENCE

    You have found or observed something that looks out of place. You aren't seeing or hearing the intruder directly, but something that might be a sign that one was here earlier.

    Spoiler

    Find Something Suspicious: ["snd_foundSuspiciousItem" ]

    You’ve noticed something unusual, like a rope hanging from a rafter, or a knocked over chair. You can’t immediately assume there’s an intruder, but you’re sure something is not right. You’re talking to yourself.

    find_something_suspicious01 "Hmmm. Strange. Odd. Odd." x4

     

    Find a Weapon: ["snd_foundWeapon" ]

    There is a weapon lying on the ground. People generally don’t leave their weapons around for no reason, so you’re suspicious.

    find_weapon01 "Some fellow believer or heathen forgot this here…" x2

     

    Find a Door Open: ["snd_foundOpenDoor"]

    There is a door open that shouldn't be. Maybe it doesn’t mean anything, but maybe it does.

    notice_door01 "Open ? Who left it like that..." x2

     

    Find Lights Off: ["snd_foundLightsOff" ]

    The lights are off, and they shouldn't be. Strange. References should suit any type of light.

    notice_lights01 "How odd. It still shone bright a moment ago." x3

     

    Find Lights Out, Flame: ["snd_foundTorchOut" ]

    You notice a torch or candle that should be lit has gone out. You're only mildly suspicious.

    notice_lights_flame01 "Ah, the spirits like playing games with their breath..." x3

     

    Relight light: ["snd_yesRelightTorch" ]

    You’ve found a a light that is off, and you decide to relight it. Should not refer to type of light, as it could be electric or torch.

    relighting01 "Spirits, calm yourselves. I only need to spark a little light." x2

     

    Refuse to relight light: ["snd_noRelightTorch"]

    You’ve found a light that is off, but you have no intention of relighting it. Should not refer to type of light.

    not_relighting01 "Oh, I’m too tired… Not going to let the spirits play their larks on me..." x2

     

    Find Blood: ["snd_foundBlood"]

    There is blood on the floor. There has obviously been a fight of some kind. This is serious. These lines are said to yourself.

    notice_blood01 "Blood?! Is this some hunt... or a manhunt ?” x1

     

    Find Body, generic: ["snd_foundUnconsciousMale"] ["snd_foundUnconsciousFemale"]

    You find a body on the ground. There is no obvious sign of trauma, so you’re not sure what has happened. You're calling to your friends about your find. Some lines should be generic, without reference to gender. 

    notice_body_generic01 "Wounded ! Herbs needed ! Healers, muster!" x2

    notice_body_female01 "A woman is hurt, she needs healing!" x1

    notice_body_male01 "A man wounded ! Any healers around ?" x1

     

    Find Corpse: ["snd_foundDeadMale"] ["snd_foundDeadFemale"]

    You find the body of someone who is obviously dead. You are shocked and/or angry and are yelling an alarm. Some lines should not refer to gender.

     notice_corpse01 "Slain! Someone has drawn blood !" x2

     notice_corpse_female01 "Ah... dead! Innocent blood, slain!" x1

     notice_corpse_male01 "Foul murder! Some filthy rat had killer him!" x1

     

    Find Corpse, Comrade: ["snd_foundComradeBody"] *** is this team based? ***

    You find a comrade of yours, murdered. You are outraged. You call out a warning to your allies, or a threat to the one who did this.

    notice_corpse_friend01 "Some rotten rat or magpie had slaughtered our fellow folk ! They’ll regret being born !" x1

     

    Find Pocket Picked: ["snd_notice_pickpocket"] *** not currently used ***

    You had something on your belt, and now it's gone! Did you drop it?

    notice_pickpocket01 "By the spirits ! I... had it with me... And now... Argh !" x2

     

    Find Something Stolen: ["snd_foundMissingItem"]

    You’ve just noticed something significant missing that shouldn't be. You've obviously been robbed. While your first reaction might be quiet, the line should include a yell to your friends.

    notice_theft01 "Whaaat ?! Stolen! What thieving magpie did this ?!" x3

     

    Raise the Alarm!: ["snd_raise_alarm"]

    You know something is seriously wrong…perhaps you’ve found the lord murdered, or you’ve found the master safe open. You need to alert everyone within earshot.

    raise_alarm01 “Arm yourselves, there’s a meddler about !” x2

     

    Warning--Recently Found Corpse: ["snd_warnFoundCorpse"]

    You recently found or heard about a body and are relaying the information to any friends you see. Don't take too long with these, as the AI could be walking past each other while delivering the line.

    warn_found_corpse01 "Alert the others, someone is slaying our kin!" x2

     

    Warning—We’ve been Robbed: ["snd_warnMissingItem"]

    You know you've been robbed and you're telling your buddy about it.

    warn_missing_item01 "A magpie taunts us... If you find it fluttering around, catch it and twist its neck." x1

     

    Warning--Recently Saw Intruder: ["snd_warnSawEnemy" ]

    You saw or were warned about the intruder not too long ago, but he escaped. Now, you’re warning others about him.

    warn_saw_enemy01 "Some rotten meddler is making fools of us. Keep your sight as sharp as a hawk’s." x1

     

    Warning—Something is not Right: ["snd_warnSawEvidence"]

    You haven’t seen an intruder, but you’ve seen evidence that there is one around somewhere. You’re warning your friends about it.

    warn_suspicious01 “Tread carefully. The spirits seem restless this night.” x3

     

    Recieved Warning: ["snd_warn_response"]

    Someone just warned you about trouble. You give a quick response as you pass by.

    respond_to_warning01 "I’ll be watchful." x3

     

    Admonish Friend: ["snd_admonish_friend"]

    A friend or neutral just did something you didn't like, such as drop a plate on your foot. You're expressing your displeasure.

    admonish_friend01 "Oh, don’t be so foolhardy, friend..." x2

    Greetings

    Since greetings can be made to friends or strangers, delivery should be fairly neutral. Also, there's no way to know whether the AI have seen each other once or twenty times before greeting each other, so typical "hello" greetings should be limited in favour of casual comments or questions that can be answered 'yes'.

    Greetings are not exchanged between sitting characters, so assume that the greeting is a quick one as AI pass each other.

    Not every greeting is needed for every vocal character. The thug, for example, has special greetings for female characters because he's a sexist pig, but not every character needs those.

    Spoiler

    Greeting, Generic: ["snd_greeting_civilian_to_civilian"]

    A generic comment or question as you pass someone. This is used as the default greeting if no other greeting applies.

    greet_generic01 "Spirits guide thee in the dark of this night."

    greet_generic02 "Health and merriment to thee."

    greet_generic03 "Have a pleasant evening." (a short laugh)

     

    Greeting, Guard to Guard: ["snd_greeting_guard_to_guard"]

    You spot a fellow guard on patrol. Greet them or ask a short 'yes' question about their shift.

    greet_guard_to_guard01 "Any rustlings this night? No rats around ?" x3

     

    Greeting, Guard to Civilian: ["snd_greeting_guard_to_civilian"]

    You’re on patrol and see a civilian. You gruffly tell them to stay out of your way.

    greet_guard_to_civilian01 "Ey ! Don’t trespass where you shouldn’t." x2

     

    Greeting, Civilian to Guard: ["snd_greeting_civilian_to_guard"]

    You’re a civilian and you see a guard on patrol. You don't want any trouble.

    greet_civilian_to_guard01 "Worry not, officer, I’m just humble folk." x2

     

    Greeting, to Nobleman: ["snd_greeting_noble_male" ]

    You see someone high on the social ladder and greet him.

     greet_to_noble_male01 "Best wishes, your Lordship." x1

     

    Greeting, to Noblewoman: ["snd_greeting_noble_female" ]

    You see a lady high on the social ladder and greet her.

    greet_to_noble_female01 "Much merriment to thee, noble Lady." x1

     

    Greeting, to Priest: ["snd_greeting_cleric"]

    You pass a Builder Priest and greet him. 

    greet_to_cleric "Pleasant evening to thee, servant of the One God." x1

     

    Greeting, to Inferior: ["snd_greeting_noble_to_civilian"]

    You’re high on the social ladder, and see someone beneath you. You’re better than them, and your greeting conveys that.

    greet_to_inferior01 "Out of my way." x2

    greet_to_inferior02 "Not a city dweller... But not of my kin either."

    greet_to_inferior03 "My kin know better than to mingle with you."

     

    Greeting, to Inferior Guard: ["snd_greeting_noble_to_guard"]

    You’re high on the social ladder and see a guard. You greet them by evaluating their performance.

    greet_to_inferior_guard01 “Stay alert, my kin.” x2

     

    Greeting, to beggar: ["snd_greeting_beggar"]

    You see a beggar.

    greet_to_beggar01 "Don’t feed on rats, poor man. They’re bad for you."

     

    Greeting, to female: ["snd_greeting_civilian_to_female"]

    greet_to_female01 "Spirits bless your beauty and health, my lovely."

     

    Greeting, to pagan: ["snd_greeting_pagan"]

    You greet an unwashed pagan, probably with a degree of cordiality.

    greet_to_pagan01 "Spirits guide thee, fellow believer."

     

    Greeting, to Builder: ["snd_greeting_builder"]

    You greet a member of the Builder Church (not a priest).

    greet_to_builder01 "May thy god protect thee."

     

    Greeting, to Citywatch: ["snd_greeting_citywatch"]

    You greet an officer of the watch.

    greet_to_citywatch01 "May all go well, officer."

     

    Response, Generic: ["snd_response_positive"]

    You have been greeted by someone who is a social equal. Delivery should be monotone and noncommittal, as these could be responses to lots of different greetings.

    response_positive01 “Yeah, yeah.” x3

     

    Response, to Superior: ["snd_response_positive_superior"]

    You have been greeted by someone who has a higher rank than you. Your response should be stiffer and more official.

    response_to_superior01 “Yes, yes, sir.” (somewhat disinterested) x2

     

    Response, Negative: **** No Def Currently ****

    You have been greeted by someone who is a social equal, and are responding to their question negatively. These should be delivered without much emotion.

    response_negative_1 “No. Not at all.” x2

     

    Conversation Question: ["snd_convo_question"]

    You strike up a casual conversation with a nearby friendly. These are used for mission-specific conversations set up by the mapper, and are not used by default. The questions must be evaluation questions, appropriate for "good/not good" style answers. (They may eventually be used for AI sitting next to each other for extended periods of time)

    convo_question01 "Greetings. Tiring day, was it?"

    convo_question02 "What say you ? How guide thee the spirits ?"

    convo_question03 "How was the last harvest, friend ?"

    convo_question04 "How was that mead you tasted recently ?"

    convo_question05 "Any trouble you’ve ran into recently ?"

     

    Conversation Answer: ["snd_convo_answer"]

    This is an answer to the question above. The answers should all be of the "good/not good" variety.

    convo_answer01 "Hm, rather good, I’d say."

    convo_answer02 "It could always be worse, friend."

    convo_answer03 "Don't even ask me about it."

    convo_answer04 "Not as bad as I feared, friend."

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    Feedback ?

    I'd like to ask you to provide your own constructive criticism now. Feel free to provide feedback on the lines, try to give me constructive criticism on what could be improved, added, dropped, changed. I'm all ears. Sink your nitpicky teeth into this vocal script proposal. :)

    Final note

    Besides this particular VS, I also have one/two more in development, and I plan to start work on them soon.

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  15. I have an utterly unapologetic love for The Big O. Without a doubt my favourite mecha anime. It's got style, got weirdness, a lot of humour (dry or overt) and I just find it a really amusing, surreal slice of entertainment.

    Yes, he's one quarter Phil Marlowe, one quarter young inspector Morse, one quarter discount James Bond, one quarter Bruce Wayne. Yes, his companion sleuth is basically a robot Batgirl. He even has a faithful butler and an older pal on the force. And once all else fails and the city needs defending, he blows sh*t up in a towering mecha of mysterious origins. Some of the music is jazz, some inspired by Queen. This should not work at all. And it does, at least for me. I love it. ?

    The series is completely nuts at times, but I love it exactly for that reason. :D It only takes itself as seriously as it needs to, and the homages to older mecha combat anime are very blatant, but actually fit the retro-esthetics of the series world.

    They even have a good Christmas-themed episode, which wasn't as snide a take as I expected. Given the season, it's interesting to see an anime that actually adds some heartwarming stuff via the guest characters of that episode.

    About the only thing I don't like about the series is the blonde femme fatale thief/spy. She's booooring. Unforgivable in a series with an android lady that never smiles, but is still a lot more amusing and lovable.

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  16. I was too poor to have a PS1 back in the day. ??  Though I did admire its library of games. ?

    I had to be a PC kid all the way, and I didn't even have my own PC until the early 2000s.

    On 10/29/2019 at 7:23 PM, JackFarmer said:

    Do you know the games below? They might be worth a look

    However, I have not played Rogue Ops till now. I recall the story being described quite stupid, but then again the storylines in the SC games are not really good as well.

    I found watching these... entertaining. I only knew about the third one. Truth be told, Rogue Ops made me think of "okay mechanics, meh presentation and concept" (the protag especially comes across as grating, still riding that mid-90s triggered "babe in a tight suit" trend started by the oldest Tomb Raider games). The second one, Stolen, felt more interesting to me, but they really went all-out with the presentation and exposition. While it's not bad, I think they might have overegged it a bit. Not just the protag cat-burglar, but the sinister mayoral candidate. The brief TV interview with the guy had me in stitches. :D I kind of agreed with the fence-guy as he turned off the TV, not thinking much about the guy. At least this second game is a bit more self-aware and tongue-in-cheek. Still obviously cheesy, but a better kind of cheesy. On a mechanical note, Stolen has the same style of lockpicking as Death to Spies (just computerised in presentation) and I like their idea of you needing to put trackers on guards first, so they could appear on your minimap. A bit of extra work for a bit of extra challenge.

    On 11/1/2019 at 3:20 PM, STiFU said:

    But I totally forgot about Death to Spies. I actually got one or two of the games in my lib.

    The only reason I never bought either of the DtS games is because I heard they use StarForce, and that isn't good for me' drives. ?

    Having played their demos many times, though I am not into WWII games (outside of flight sims), I found the DtS games very enjoyable. Especially the variety and the need for a lot of precision. I still adore how one mission has me started with sniper or saboteur kit, then I gradually put it away, get a disguise, hijack a truck, enter an enemy base, try to explore, lockpick and infiltrate, while avoiding suspicion. While a Hitman clone at heart, that series really gave me the feeling of playing an old-school, pre-electronics spy, and even gave me the urge to write down a concept for a WWI era stealth game (I prefer that era of modern espionage). The enemy soldier voiceovers are a bit cheesy (and only sound native-speaker-y to my ears in the second one), but I took that minor bit of campiness as part of the charm. Commandos might be the best WWII stealther about a team, Death to Spies might be the best WWII stealther about an individual spy.


  17. 2 hours ago, NeonsStyle said:

    If someone really wants to do it, I'm quite happy to step aside. So if you'd really like to do it, then feel free. :)

    It's just important that it isn't an American, or Canadian accent. That won't fit with the location of the game. 

    Really think Jewish should be skipped too, as it's a bit stereotypical, and could be taken the wrong way; especially today. 

    To nitpick on the former: Why do you feel the Schemer accent shouldn't be North American-sounding or British-sounding ? I find that confusing. I think it would actually make a lot of sense for it to be done by a native speaker. The premise of this vocal script concept is that it's one of several personalities we already have in the core game. Among the TDM men AI, we have the "simpleton", "pro", "cynic", etc., and those are all archetypes, rather than a guard voice, commoner voice, etc. Springheel himself likes to stress we should always think of these scripts more generally, as human personality types, rather than voice of characters X or Y. For that reason alone, and because "Schemer" is not too specific a personality, I think a more anglophone accent, along with a very specific tone of voice / style of speaking, could fit this guy. It has to be distinct and memorable on its own, but not for the sake of cheesiness or too foreign-sounding accents.

    To nitpick on the latter, what even is a "Jewish accent" ? Yiddish ? Modern Hebrew ? Whatever accent historical forms of Hebrew had ? Honestly, aside from maybe local accent stereotypes, I have never really heard anyone (at least here in Europe) talk about a "typical Jewish accent". There's just nothing "internationally recognised" as any sort of typical Jewish accent, as far as I know. The whole "Jewish people as greedy/scheming" stereotype, aside from being completely unfair and stupid, is a baseless thing anyway, as the TDM setting probably has no analogue whatsoever of Judaism, Jewish culture, or a social class in the vein of people of Jewish faith or descent in medieval Europe.

    As I mentioned yesterday, I am game for writing a vocal script for this sort of personality. Not necessarily for voice acting it, all the more that I think a North American accent would actually be preferable to such a more generic character.


  18. 14 hours ago, NeonsStyle said:

    Do you have a script?

    Do you mean me ?

    Not yet, I'm afraid. However, for posteriority, I've copied Melan's and others' musings on this idea into some notes I keep for TDM voicework. Just to be sure I have some ideas if I ever get to writing a script for the Schemer concept.

    Currently, I'm trying to complete a vocal set for a male Pagan and for a foreign merchant type character (from the outskirts of the Empire). But I'm definitely thinking about looking into the Schemer concept as well, at least in terms of script.

     


  19. 35 minutes ago, Jedi_Wannabe said:

    Through VO’s and internal monologue I want my thief to grow over the course of my campaign from being arrogant, cynical, self-absorbed and cold-hearted, to someone who forced into a predicament uses his growing taffing skills to unravel a mystery for the greater good. The last mission will see him take up more of a Robin Hood role, as opposed to “steal this to pay the bills”.

    a four and a half year necro ain’t bad, I revived a decade old dmap thread one time lol

    A very good narrative goal !

    I have something similar planned for the main characters in my Partners in Crime series. On the other hand, I don't want to have too many in-game voiceovers or pre-scripted conversations in those missions, and I want to keep most of the character development to readables and what the situation is at the outset of each mission. At least in my case, I feel less is more, and being very precise in how many player-based VOs and conversations between characters I use in a single mission could yield better results to what I have in plan.

    Obviously, everyone has to approach their own works from their own individual angle. That's for the best. :)

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  20. It's only now that I realised I haven't really finalised what the top of the lighthouse, with the light source itself, will look like. I am thinking of making the top room a series of low walls and four corner pillars, with a Gothic style roof or a hint of it on top of them. (To give you an idea, the roof could have stylistics similar to this or this - those are Gothic Revival era reconstructions of those structures' original Gothic roofs, but they still look very nice and authentic.)

    The light source itself will be housed at the centre, either:

    1.) an open fire (inextinguishable with water arrows) inside a large, roofed steel cage, or

    2.) a more artificial light source (large gas lamp, early electricity, etc.), inside a large container with a steel cage and glass panes for its surface (since a monolithic glass container would probably be too unrealistic and fragile)

    Personally, I'd prefer the first variant, since I want to give the lighthouse a more medieval or early modern feel, without too many of the early industrial trappings of TDM. As much as I love steampunk (I really do, even used extensive tech documentation for a fictional setting I use in a tabletop project of mine), I think the coastal city from the story of my FM, being a poorer and smaller cousin to a more proper metropolis like Bridgeport, would have a more old-school lighthouse. Maybe there's some electric lighting on the ground floors, used as storage spaces and local harbour offices, but once you hit the tower itself, it's all fully traditional, along with the fire burning at the top. I could maybe smuggle in some references into readables on how the city authorities are planning to invest in getting the whole place modernised in the future, but so far, both budget issues and finding the construction personnel with the right expertise have proved prohibitive. Or jokes in letters by local employees, complaining about how they have to regularly haul chopped up lumber and lighting oil to the very top of the lighthouse, on those narrow and claustrophobic stairs. :D Would be a hoot from a narrative perspective.

    On 11/27/2019 at 8:48 PM, ERH+ said:

    No, these are remnants of a pen&paper rpg system I've been working decades ago. It was a bit like Deus Ex / Bladerunner with oceans totally filled with algae, completely clouded sky, all plants are dead and decaying biomass is everywhere, all herbivores died, so all carnivores roaming in massive swarms, attacking and taking over whole cities. There is a black hole on the surface of the sun, dead people are no longer dead due to advanced life support systems - but if you are not rich enough, your brain will be added to the pool containing thousands of other, forming a collective net, like the elders council. Few factions struggle to find and perform a solution for this disaster.

    What a creepy setting ! ?

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  21. 7 hours ago, Geep said:

    Just a heads-up to anyone who might be interested in beta testing of a watery mission, "Away 1: Air Pocket". This, my first full-fledged FM, re-deploys Dragofer's ship models, familiar from "Down by the Riverside". By next weekend, I'll create a new  Air Pocket thread in the Beta Forum, with the link to the download.

    Though a landlubber in real life, I am fond of more nautically themed missions ! ?

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