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Maybe it's easier to google the issue to see what the forums come up with.

I may see about it in a day or two but right off the bat I am pretty sure func_group never got around to being implemented. SteveL stopped posting on the forums altogether about a year after that post and I've not heard hide nor hair from the feature. I remember testing it, though after five years it's difficult to recall whether it was in 2.03 or 2.04. It "worked" in a very gimped way and I've not touched it or used it in my mapping since. The whole functionality of it has largely been superseded by Dark Radiant's grouping feature, though of course my hope was that this was going to be a wedge for the possible implementation of instanced map regions/map section nesting, like Valve's Hammer editor had (and there's been discussions of that very thing in the forums, recently too I think). The wiki article might simply be useless but you or I could give the func_group thing a whirl in-game and actually check to what extent it works. This week's busy though so unless there are any brave experimenters it will take me to the weekend to get to it.

https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21333-tdm-wont-run/&do=findComment&comment=471717

Hey Xolvix! Yes there has been a long wait between act 2 and 3, longer than I would have preferred. But between personal events that have popped up and taken my time away from mapping and also big world issues, it has just extended that time even further. Work is being made though, in fact I actually just took a break from working on Act 3 to check the forums and saw your message. The wait should be over soon Re: your spoiler question

I am locking this thread. There have already been a few discussions about Islam in these forums and this does not need to be another referendum on that topic. There are plenty of online spaces where people who are anti-religion congregate and espouse their grievances. The TDM forums are not an appropriate venue for that topic since we welcome people of all religious backgrounds whether atheist or fundamentalist. If some militant religious extremist decides to proselytize here, their threads will be locked too.

Thread created in the Beta test forums!

https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21207-210-x-rays/ Another big gameplay addition in 2.10 were the improved security cameras. Other features which indirectly impact gameplay were things like removing the entity limit (my mission would not function without substantial compromises if that was not done) and the productivity boosts which came from compile time optimization and the connection and collaboration features added to DR.

Yes, Q4 and ET:QW both had their own implementations but D3 never did. (It appears from the leaked D3 demo that at one stage its parser was going to use the C preprocessor, or something like it. DECAL_MACRO is a leftover from that era but is no longer implemented in the same way; probably id never used the preprocessor for anything else and decided it wasn't worth it.) Someone did make this though: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/18843-material-generator-bash-script/

I've NEVER played a modern game that "just worked" out of the box. They ALWAYS had settings that I didn't like or want (motion blur, AA set to something weird, really low default FOV, weird FPS caps). So I'm not really sure where you're coming from with that statement. Like I wrote earlier, nobody should be starting a game without looking at the options menu. That's your own fault for not learning what options are available, then coming into the forums requesting changes that are already present.

It's an attachment to the post of kcghost with the name tdm_loot_stealth_stats.pk4 . https://forums.thedarkmod.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=17190

No dice Not surprising as the Lenovo readme states that there are no significant changes in any of the releases since the one I have. Version Info <10.18.14.4414> (j4d214ww) - (Fix) Fixed security issue. <10.18.10.3431> (j4d211ww) - (Fix) Fixed an issue that Intel video driver can't do upgrade install. <10.18.10.3431> (j4d210ww) - (Fix) Fixed an issue that can't change resolution successfully with DP1.2 mointor. <9.18.10.3272> (j4d208ww) - (New) Initial release for Thinkpad L440, L540. Googling the problem I see that in previous versions of TDM someone had the same problem and you solved it for them by telling them to delete "the gamex86.dll files then running tdm_updater to get new versions" https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/14667-tdm-wont-start-doom3exe-has-stopped-working/ I don't see any such files in my version of TDM. Is there something similar I could try?

Will there be more work to improve performance? For example include common performance workaround tweaks into standard game settings? I mean particularly ”Disabling standard graphics features” I use a fairly newer budget laptop. The new patch helped loading times a lot and I'm glad to see this. But standard performance seems to be inconsistent, especially with EAX. I really want to keep native resolution and EAX on. Everything else doesn't matter to me. Minimum graphics solutions are also described on the forums here: here: And on the wiki here: https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Performance_Tweaks#Disabling_standard_graphics_features

TDM has come a long way since its standalone release, and I've been enjoying 2.10 quite a bit on my legacy machine, which finally is no longer prey to slow loading times! Because of all technical achievements in the past 3 or so releases I wonder if perhaps it could be a good time for the team to show some love to some more outwardly aspects of TDM. This is because I still think the TDM default package is a bit too bare-bones to incentivize new players to invest time into it, and there are some simple yet significant changes that I believe that could change that. I will try to make a short list of suggestions in no particular order for your consideration and for community discussion. Finish St. Lucia campaign - I think that one of the most disappointing aspects of the core TDM package is the lack of a full official campaign. I remember Springheel mentioning many aspects for the 3rd final mission were underway but left incomplete, and that these resources could be ceded to any interested FM creator who was interested in finishing the mission. Why not taking the initiative and do a public announcement? A better training mission - The current TDM training mission is a strange sandbox that doesn't blend too well with the rest of the package. I think something similar to Goldwell's Thief training mission remake would be a more suitable and shorter solution to teach the basics of the game while keeping it within the narrative. It could even be included in the St. Lucia campaign as Mission 0. Better, clearer main menu - even with the most recent changes, I still feel the TDM menu needs a redesign. I'm not quite sure what would be the best approach, so the only suggestion I have at the moment is to have the Mission Downloader available straight from the main menu, instead of being somewhat hidden on the corner of the New Mission section. This is mainly because the game focuses heavily on downloadable, content and thus should immediately point new players towards it. Two-mission community FM sample - one easy way to make the TDM package more complete is by adding a sample of two FMs to the main package - one short, and one long - so that new players can enjoy a small curated selection of what the game offers without having to browse the forums for mission descriptions. These missions could be selected by community vote and then tweaked before inclusion in the package, with the consent of their authors of course. A better intro sequence - The old glowing TDM logo video is really starting to show its age. I wonder if it could be replaced with a better hi-res version, or even with a simple logo texture with an after effect applied, discarding the need for an FMV sequence. Let me know what are your thoughts. I would like also ask the TDM team members if anything similar to these suggestions is already in development.

Nice. See also our comments in topic: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/20573-winter-ember-isometric-stealth-game-inspired-by-the-thief-series/

I think I might have tracked down the bug. I stupidly had a locationseparator with a negative sound_loss spawnarg- ie. it amplifies the sound. I'm guessing the sound bounces around the map multiple times, passing through the megaphone repeatedly, getting amplified to crazy volumes. No wonder the guards were going berserk. This patch fixes the problem on my Windows machine: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21260-down-and-out-on-newford-road-by-thebigh-jan-26-2022-christmas-connections-contest-entry/&do=findComment&comment=470839 It's still not clear to me why this should be OS dependent though. Idiotic bug or not, it should behave the same on Linux as it does on Windows.

I have made some progress in tracking down this issue. It seems to be an OS dependent bug in TDM2.10 betas. https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21198-beta-testing-210/&do=findComment&comment=470785

Hi all, This isn't so much of an issue but a quirk. I've noticed for many versions now that the mission downloader, while working fine to download missions, will not refresh properly. What I mean is, when I download missions, they do download, but if I were to go back into the list some are still there. Some are removed from the available list, but the same ones (almost forty) show as available. I'm wondering what this is. It's more a question for my OCD to have a nice cleared out list, but also it makes it hard to find new missions (especially when the name is cut off and I cannot see the asterisk or pound sign at the end). Anyone know what this is about or how to clear the list for missions that have already been downloaded? I searched around the forums but couldn't find any information. Thanks in advance.

Then try: 1. Remove the speaker 2. Create a new speaker with the sound shader If this all does not help, please do an upload of the map as txt file to the forums. File sizes must not exceed 500 kb.

============== -= IRIS =- ============== WELLINGTONCRAB TDM v 2.10 REQ Ver. 1.2 *For Maureen* -=- "Carry the light of the Builder, Brother. Unto its end." -Valediction of the Devoted "What year is this? Am I dreaming?" -Plea of the Thief Dear Iris, I am old and broken. When we were young it felt like the words came easily. Now I find the ink has long dried on the pen and I'm as wanting for words as coin in my purse. I can tell we are nearing the end of the tale; time enough for one more job before the curtain call... ============== -Installation- Requires minimum version of TDM 2.10 -Iris does not support mods or the Unofficial Patch- Download and place the following .pk4 into you FMs directory: Iris Download ============== *Thank you for playing. Iris is a large mission which can either take as quickly or as long as you are compelled to play. I hope someone out there enjoys it and this initial release is not completely busted - I tried the best I could!* *Iris both is and isn't what it seems. If commenting please use spoiler tags where appropriate. If you are not certain if it would be appropriate a good assumption would be to use a spoiler tag* *Support TDM by rating missions on Thief Guild: https://www.thiefguild.com/* ============== WITH LASTING GRATITUDE: OBSTORTTE - Whose gameplay scripts from his thread laid the foundation which made the mission seem like something I could even pull off at all. Also fantastic tutorial videos! DRAGOFER - Who built upon that foundation and made it shine even brighter! And whom also provided immeasurable quantities of help and encouragement the past couple years on the TDM discord. ORBWEAVER & GIGAGOOGA - For generously offering their ambient music up for use. EPIFIRE - Who lent me his fine trash and trash receptacle models. AMADEUS - Who was the first person who wasn't me to play the damn thing and provided his excellent editorial services to improving the readers experience playing TESTERS AND TROUBLESHOOTERS: AMADEUS * DATISWOUS * SPOOKS * ALUMINUMHASTE * JAXA * JACKFARMER * WESP5 * ATE0ATE * MADTAFFER * STGATILOV * DRAGOFER * KINGSAL * KLATREMUS - What can I possibly say? Playing this thing over and over again could not have been easy. Deepest thanks and all apologies. -=THANKS TO ALL ON THE TDM DISCORD AND FORUM=- ==SEE README.TXT FOR ADDITIONAL ATTRIBUTIONS & INFORMATION== HONORABLE MENTION: GOLDWELL - If I hadn't by chance stumbled into Northdale back in 2018/2019 I would probably still be trying to get this thing to work in TDS, which means it probably would not exist - though more details on that in readme. ============== Boring Technical Information: *This mission makes use of volumetric lighting in several scenes. While optional if you wish to see this feature enable the "maps" lighting model and I recommend you also disable image sharpening. If you do not like the effect or are concerned about performance use stencil shadows* *Iris is a performance intensive mission and I recommend a GTX 1060 or equivalent. I find the performance similar to other demanding TDM missions on my machine, but mileage may vary and my apologies if this prevents anyone from enjoying the mission.* *Iris heavily modifies the behavior of AI in the game, how they relate/respond to each other and the player. So they may act even stranger than they do typically in TDM. Feedback on this is useful - as it can potentially be improved and expanded upon in future patches.* -=- This is my first release and it has been a long time coming! If I forgot anything please let me know! God Speed. 2.10 Features Used:

As https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21267-mod-save-at-will/ exists, the "no" option existing doesn't make any sense. And you missed the "Don't care" option for the second question. To every author out there: If you want to include save restrictions in your mission, just do so. People who don't like them, can disable them via a trivial mod. Do not feel obligated to waste one of the precious difficulty slots for a non-save-restricted hard mode or something like that. Just include it on all the levels you feel it belongs to - even easy if you fell it fits your mission.

Actually, quite the contrary. With manual saves, you quick save/load your way through the map without ever facing the consequences of your actions, if the route or plan you choose goes wrong, or in the way you didn't expect. With limited or no saves you have to go with the flow and think on your feet – and that's when you really see the emergent systems at work, to full extent. With infinite saves players typically choose the safest option and they're done with the mission, instead of choosing a different approach in another playthrough. And then they can boast of the forums that they finished the mission in 30 minutes on expert and it was a little too easy for their taste Edit: and while I like to use cheats in FMs, e.g. to give myself a sightseeing tour and admire the views/ambience, I'd never edit anyone's map. IMO it's a sign of disrespect. They did what they could at the time, with the knowledge and resources that was available to them. It's a finished work unless they'll have another go at it, it's not up to me to mess with anything they created.

No need to edit maps as there now is a mod for that: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21267-mod-save-at-will/#comment-469781

The spoiler tags aren't for you, it's for the rest of us reading this thread so WE don't get spoiled. Thanks for spoiling the frobbable book on a shelf for the rest of us. EDIT: I'll be unsubscribing to this thread to avoid further spoilers. Maybe I'll check back after I've finished the mission Amadeus