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Wow, this is impressive I think crash on shader compilation is like getting internal compiler error from ordinary C++ compiler. Except that GLSL compiler is embedded, so consequences for crashing are much worse. Luckily, the problem can be worked around by simply removing the manylight shader. I think the black screen issue will return back to you after that By the way, do you want to go into the quest of reporting the issue to AMD? I recall I did it with the bug that texture fetches in global variable initializers didn't work, and got response like "upgrade GLSL version". At least that was response from someone from AMD, as far as I understood. Maybe a crash will get more attention. Also, it is very easy to debug if you attach a full crash dump...

So I tried the newest beta driver for 6850 (I only tested with the WHQL the first time) Honestly I expected the same black GUI but AMD managed to get over their assheads with that one It just... crashes on qglGetProgramiv(... GL_LINK_STATUS ...) with the manylight shader Thank you, AMD, for setting the eternal gold standard in shit baths driver quality reputation

I want to cover my whole mission in a light fog but as the topic states, I've got problems with particles, especially flames from torches and chimney smoke when these appear in front of skyportals (caulked face with a portal_sky texture in the same leaf). The particle doesn't render in these places. (Left picture below) I'm using a foglight that covers the whole mission and it have the following properties/spawnargs _color 0.06 0.06 0.06 shaderParm3 2000 textures fogs/delta1_fog Everything is nice and it has got the effect that I'm after, but I cannot see the flames/other particles as I want. It's like the fog gets so thick outside the map that it nulls out the skyportal and messes up the particles in front of it... I have tried to start the shaderParm3 on extremely high numbers and then slowly lowered it, but as I go so far that the fog is visible in the mission, the sky parts are greyed out and the flames disappear when the torch moves in front of the sky...The skybox is outside the fog light btw. As a sidenote, if I use the spawnarg "start_off 1" on the light, the skyportal doesn't work (the sky parts are just plain black). I have to remove the light entity altogether to be able to see the skybox, and a clear sky...but I want fog, dammit!

I (and we) have not read your darkmod logs yet, studentmaniac. And i still want to read them, because capability check written in them and can show other things. (and if there is a driver issue, we can also see that in the log. Than we have proof) "I'll not go fiddling with codes and notebook as I am naïve and technologically illiterate when it comes to these things." Please hold on! Then I write some easy instructions for you, which i did also for other people. instruction: open the file explorer and go to your darkmod folder. open file darkmod.cfg (right click > open with > notepad), look for value for setting "seta logFile", change the value "0" to "2", and the save the file. open file "currentfm", change its content to "training_mission", and the save the file. open a command prompt/powershell window in the tdm folder: In file explorer > click on menu "file" > open in powershell. Or in file explorer, hold your shift-key on keyboard and right-click in a empty space (shift+right click), > in the quickmenu select "open powershell / command prompt" here Or hit windowskey+r to open the execute window. input "cmd" and run.This wil open the black command prompt window If the game is located at c:\games\darkmod, enter the following line and hit the enter-key: cd games\darkmod Then run the following command by entering the following line and hit the enter-key: .\TheDarkModx64.exe +condump tdmwontstartlog.txt +map training_mission +quit this automatically start tdm, create logfile tdmwontstart and quit. This create a file "tdmwontstartlog" and we want to see its content. Open the file and post its content in the topic, or attach the file to the topic. (You can also look if there is a qconsole file in your fms\trainingsmission folder, but i doubt it.) end.

@Jedi_Wannabe, could you please check something about this issue? As written above, the problem depends on r_glCoreProfile cvar, which must be set in darkmod.cfg before starting TDM. We know that "r_glCoreProfile 2" does not work for you, but "r_glCoreProfile 0" does work. Does "r_glCoreProfile 1" work for you? Or you get black screen?

I want to know what is written in the qconsole.log, when you load the mission "A House of Locked Secrets" directly. This by generating a new darkmod.cfg, change the log setting in darkmod.cfg, change the name of current mission in currentmission.txt start the mission from commandline, automaticly quit and look for qconsole.log inside fms folder "ahouseoflockedsecrets". Generate a new darkmod.cfg, by renaming darkmod.cfg (to something else) and start and quit darkmod. open darkmod.cfg, look for value for setting "seta logFile", change the value "0" to "2" Change the content of currentfm.txt to "ahouseoflockedsecrets" hit windowskey+r to open the execute window. input "cmd" and run. This wil open the black command prompt window If the game is located at c:\games\darkmod, enter the following line and hit the enter-key: cd games\darkmod Then run the following command by entering the following line and hit the enter-key: .\TheDarkModx64.exe +map monastery.map +quit This will automatically start TDM, load the mission and quits. See if there is a qconsole.log inside folder fms\ahouseoflockedsecrets end.

I don't know if it's the same issue or an unrelated one, but I just got this weird artifact after entering the basement sewer area of Blackgrove Manor. It's red rather than black, but does appear a similar shape. It started on the left and sort of spread across the screen towards the right. UPDATE: Further experimentation revealed that Bloom is the cause of this particular artifact. If I disable bloom, the red boxes disappear. I then noticed some much smaller patches of the same red colour which were not affected by the bloom settings; these disappeared when I switched color depth to 16 bits rather than 64 bits.

Drivers are updated, hardware is the same, still using the fresnel repack and this happened. Settings shown in video, nothing changed, but hopefully something that can isolate, simplify and complete this issue. If the black box in the upper right isn't obvious enough at 9 seconds let me know, I can adjust brightness/contrast in post. I wouldn't actually know how to go about doing that, I'm savvy with software to some degree but would need help. Edit: Got another one right after. I can't cover this mission, this bug is too common and too unpredictable to route around.

Did you try monitoring hardware during playback to see if something strange is happening at the moment the black block appears? Here's a thread from someone with a similar problem with the same GPU: https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/hci56z/rx_5600_xt_black_squares/

Btw, I'm running into the same problem after updating to 2.09. Tried changing all of the aforementioned CVARs, but nothing solved it. I ended up updating to one of the test builds (I think test15973-8787). I'm on a laptop with an Intel UHD 620 and a dedicated nVidia GeForce MX150 here. Switching GPUs doesn't change anything, except that the screen is turning all white on Intel, instead of all black on nVidia. I haven't tried wiping the entire TDM tree to see if any old assets (like glprogs) might be lying around, conflicting with the downloaded ones. I also haven't tried yet recompiling TheDarkModx64.exe, to have the glprogs copied over afresh in the post-build step. edit: a fresh download of 2.09 is working, so it seems something in my existing darkmod/ tree is messing things up.

UPDATE: They do not just come in black. I'm getting semi-transparent red blocks here. They were gained while staring in this direction, I am unable to replicate this on video. Edit: Better view here, angle of execution. Lower right.

Hi Thanks for the Dark Mod. Like other user i get a black screen with audio after executing "TheDarkModx64.exe" Version TDM 2.09. System Windows 7-64, latest updates. Custom install TDM Version "test15973-8778" works fine, so far Custom install TDM Version "test15973-8787" works fine, so far Custom install TDM Version "test15973-8793" --> black screen with audio Custom install TDM Version "test15973-8795" --> black screen with audio Custom install TDM Version "test15973-8797" --> black screen with audio Custom install TDM Version "test16019-8980" --> black screen with audio Custom install TDM Version "test16019-8981" --> black screen with audio Custom install TDM Version "test_release209_5542" --> black screen with audio ******************************************************************************* Setting r_glCoreProfile "0" in the file Darkmod.cfg is the solution that works for me! ******************************************************************************* Report with system images and log files: Thief - The Dark Mod BlackScreenSolution Regards elC Thief_-_The_Dark_Mod_BlackScreenSolution.zip

r_glCoreProfile "0" Here's the screenshot (with r_glCoreProfile "2" - 3.3 core profile - I *CAN'T* take a screenshot, the screenshot is all black! ) https://postimg.cc/fJ767nhV Performance is pretty the same, still BindlessTextures NOT working right (if set to 1). No need to vid_restart, just setting it to 0 solves the issue directly in game.

If it were not compatible, you should be getting a black screen because nothing could be rendered without textures. But in practice, it does render, just with confused texture associations. It looks and feels very much like a bug, but unfortunately I don't (yet) have access to an AMD device myself, so it' very hard to debug...

Addendum: if image_usePrecompressedTextures "0" -> BLACK SCREEN (game is working)

Same problem (black screen on v2.09), same solution (setting r_glCoreProfile "0"). System specs:

Hi guys, First of all (it's my 1st message), I would say thank you so much for TDM (all your work is amazing)! I love you (big fan of Thief series from first one, just discovered & playing now TDM since weeks). I want to help. I'm Arch Linux user & IT cybersecurity engineer. I would like to submit something I did try to troubleshoot. As said I use multi screens (3 screens). When running TDM (<=2.09), only main monitor display run TDM, others turns black I did try several things, using CLI, windows manager, TDM CVARS, etc... nothing worked. Then I did use nvidia-settings GUI and when running TDM i did see that X config is rewritten. 2 screens got resolution turned off (that's why they turns black). Maybe it should be a great thing to improve that behavior? improving screen parsing & using? Set an option to select a screen? I don't know what is the best solution. May I help? And how? Trying to create a new build on my own? Thanks again. S3ph

Hmm... the shape of this black thing might be explained by how bloom blurs light. Does disabling bloom really help to remove it once it appears? Does enabling it back restore the artifact?

@id3839315 says the fourth script shows black screen, just like the first two. So the final decision is that "r_glCoreProfile 0" works fine, but "r_glCoreProfile 2" gives black screen. This may be some driver problem, e.g. some of the GL features previously hidden behind extension is not enabled by the problematic AMD driver under GL 3.3, while it should according to the specs. It is not just some function, because calling missing function would give immediate crash. Most likely some constant of mode. I think I have already ruled out: ARB_fence_sync ARB_buffer_storage (persistent mapping) ARB_bindless_texture (not used in menu anyway) ARB_draw_indirect (multi draw indirect --- not used in menu too) ARB_vertex_attrib_binding What else it can be? Maybe glDrawElementsBaseVertex (it was previously behind extension), maybe UBOs --- who knows. What can help here: Use deprecated profile --- I think this will serve as workaround. Request greater OpenGL version (e.g. 4.1 instead of 3.3) --- maybe it would help Hope that driver update would fix it.

_apitrace_record3.cmd works, but 1 and 2 result in the black screen.

Ok, I'll try to get some more information, but that would need more complicated steps from you. 1) Run tdm_installer without any custom checks, and make sure it installs release209 properly. Do not use test/dev versions for this! 2) Delete "currentfm.txt" file in TDM installation directory (if it exists). 3) Download apitrace from this link. It is a 7z archive with a folder inside. Unpack the contents of the folder into "C:\apitrace". Make sure that path "C:\apitrace\bin\apitrace.exe" indeed points to the executable! 4) Download attached zip file. Unpack its contents into the root of your TDM installation directory. Make sure you see files like "_apitrace_record1.cmd" in the same directory where you see "TheDarkModx64.exe". 5) Action time Run "_apitrace_record1.cmd". It will start TDM game, and after a bit of time you will hear music. Now press Ctrl+Alt+Tilde (~) to open console. Type "condump 1" and hit Enter. Then exit game by pressing Alt+F4. Note that you'll have to do it blind, so verify that both "1.txt" and "res1.trace" have been created in TDM directory. 6) Repeat point 5, but now run "_apitrace_record2.cmd" and execute "condump 2". 7) Repeat point 5, but now run "_apitrace_record3.cmd" and execute "condump 3". 8|) Take files "1.txt", "2.txt", "3.txt", "res1.trace", "res2.trace", "res3.trace" in TDM installation directory, and pack them all into 7z/zip archive. Upload the archive somewhere and share it for download. P.S. And if you start seeing the menu instead of black screen in any of the runs, of course report it 209_blackmenu_apitrace.zip

I have the same problem too, and I also have a Radeon card. On Linux, however, instead of a black screen, it produces a bunch of colored artifacts obstructing view on the menu. I'll try both test versions and see the results1000

test15973-8793 and test15973-8795 both result in the black screen no matter if it's seta r_useNewBackend "1" or seta r_useNewBackend "0".

I have a Radeon HD 6450 graphics card. test15973-8778 works but test15973-8797 starts with the black screen.

@Jedi_Wannabe, "dev15976-8815" is the very first dev build. Are you sure 'dev15976-8815' gives you black screen but release208 works properly? I hope you do not restore config file when switching versions?