Things that could be improved

[Arcturus]

6 hours ago, Taffingtaffer said:

I don't mean to sound bitter, but it wasn't long that we were debating whether the new, upcoming tone mapping looked good or bad. Where's the discussion about this!?

You would need do adjust assets (lights, particles, lit textures), otherwise there's no point. Besides, people don't even grasp the concept. It should be left to advanced mappers as an option.

[wesp5]

10 hours ago, Taffingtaffer said:

I have a quick&dirty "mod" with pumped up AI and player footstep volume, a left-over from when Daft Mugi, others and me tried to clean this up, but everyone has lost steam.

Could you upload this somewhere so maybe Snatcher could include it in his modpack and I into my patch?

[Zerush]

I personally think that a Masterthief, which footsteps sound like wearing nailed combat boots, isn't very realistic and also not sousefull for scaling. Soundlevel is almost the same of this from the guards.

I made most missions in difficult level with zero score, but nearly impossible to do it with zero suspects because of this.

[Taffingtaffer]

6 hours ago, Arcturus said:

You would need do adjust assets (lights, particles, lit textures), otherwise there's no point. Besides, people don't even grasp the concept. It should be left to advanced mappers as an option.

That's are relief. I also thought it was a strange feature to ask opinions about here, since I barely understood the implications; I just tried different existing FMs and saw it as a downgrade.

2 hours ago, wesp5 said:

Could you upload this somewhere so maybe Snatcher could include it in his modpack and I into my patch?

I feel a little less moody today, so I'm gonna compare the original values properly with a diff, comment out those in the mod for reference and then revise the edits. The hidden and useless jumping modifiers bother me to no end, but I'll try not to obsess too much about those values...
If someone were to fix this, we can either go the Thief way, making jumping always sound very loud, or acknowledge the silent crouch-fall mechanic and make the modifiers actually matter code-wise, and expose them as cvars to fine-tune the overall sound gain increase.
It might be also worth to check out unique, libre footstep sounds (the comments in the .sndshd files are pretty self-aware about this) and testing them in this map: 

 

Edited August 17 by Taffingtaffer

[snatcher]

20 hours ago, Taffingtaffer said:

I'd like to mention the blackjack bashing again. The noise does in fact propagate towards AIs, but the real volume value is so low for them that functionally it is useless, despite sounding pretty loud for the player.

I don't personally find bashing walls with weapons to draw AI's attention appealing as a mechanic in a stealth game. It sounds unprofessional, desperate, uncontrolled to me. I'd rather jump a dozen times 

Besides, do we apply a similar treatment to the sword?

[Taffingtaffer]

2 hours ago, snatcher said:

I don't personally find bashing walls with weapons to draw AI's attention appealing as a mechanic in a stealth game. It sounds unprofessional, desperate, uncontrolled to me. I'd rather jump a dozen times 

Besides, do we apply a similar treatment to the sword?

It's true that we have no shortage of ways to draw attention. I guess it's the mismatch of loud noise that AIs shrug off what bothers me the most about the blackjack. I swear, bashing windows plays something that sounds like a gunshot.

[BoilerDunce]

The vines cast by vine arrows behave badly. They keep trying to interfere with mantling. I made the training mission impossible to beat because the vines were blocking me from mantling into the window, forcing me to hold on to them right after any jump. This is terrible.

While we're on the subject of the bow and arrow, why don't I mention that the bow's range is weak? Does it feel right for any RL archers that the final target in the training mission requires you to rain an arrow down on it?








 

[Bergante]

On 8/10/2025 at 4:22 AM, Klatremus said:

2) Can you guys make one key input for hold crouch and another for toggle crouch please? I use both during gameplay, and it is very annoying to have to go to the main menu to change the toggle setting each time. Or is there a way to keybind toggle/hold crouch in the DarkmodKeybinds.cfg?

P.s. @Klatremus : hold crouch --- toggle crouch ???  (i only see "X" to use - ? )
Maybe my problem is related to this ??

Getting the crouch position while climbing

it seems to me that since 2.11 climbing works different !
i can´t switch anymore from stand position to crouch position while climbing !?
i replay HazardPay at the moment and in 2.10 it´s been possible to change position on a rope or net
now i can still stay in crouch pose when entering the rope/net in this Position -
(but you jump onto mostly. so you will be in stand pose)
but not get to it anymore when i stand up  - than one slides down and fall when the end is reached
normally that´s no problem - but if you want to grab something laying on the ground - 
it was mostly possible to grab it in crouch pose 
now one has to go so deep - one gets standing on the ground - so you can not grab it from hanging on the rope !
was there a reason to change this ( or is it just something in "settings" ? )

Edited September 26 by Bergante