broken wrist

[SneaksieDave]

Oh man, that's brutal. Do they take those back out or leave it there? I gather from comments above, they leave it.

[Baddcog]

permanant, yep

[masterthief]

Speedy recovery !

[Baddcog]

no, i was actually discussing wrist protectors before the crash,lol. i used to have some, probably would've helped, though might have just transfered the energy higher up on the arm too.(like a glove with a plastic piece under the hand.)

 

i will be using them in the future though

 

the tv's in the hospital do have built in internet and wireless keyboard now, plus computers in the hallways for guests.

 

but i'm at home now. more comfortable but not any easier to type.

[BrokenArts]

Have you turned into a one finger typer yet?

[Thiefette]

Can totaly sympathize with you. Broke my foot last year (have broken lots of bones) but the foot I think was the worst as had to keep all weight off for over two months and spend another two weaning back into using it. Screws up all your other joints just keeping all your weight on the crutches. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

Best wishes for a speedy recovery!

[Mortem Desino]

Aw, man. Nasty. My father broke his heel over two years ago, and kept getting infections, so he's still crippled. Yeah. Praying for a speedy recovery.

[Baddcog]

Have you turned into a one finger typer yet?

 

 

I always was, lol. but i had 2 hands, so two fingers i guess.

 

an ankle woul be bad, too many moving joints... got lucky i guess that it was just the big main bone here, not something in the hand itself.

[BrokenArts]

Eventually you'll get bored and have to do TDM again. I know it. Thats mainly the reason for myself I can't and won't do any sort of inline skates, skating boarding etc. If I screw up my hands, I'm screwed, for work. I need my hands.

Hey did the drugs help you?

[LEGION]

the tv's in the hospital do have built in internet and wireless keyboard now, plus computers in the hallways for guests.

 

What the hell; I won´t ask about the costs you got now. (wasn´t there talk about 10.000? ) Though, it´s a cool service to have this stuff, but now I understand more the fuss about the medical health care-system...

 

Maybe you should drink before your next skating-session, makes the bones softer, or was it the brain? Anyway, they say kids & drunk can fall of a bridge (or sth similar) and are hurt not at all... And I can tell, I fell down two pairs of steps in a staircase, FORWARD, and wasn´t hurt, just cried.

 

Too bad you´re at home again, otherwise you could´ve tried to play DarkMod on that hospital-TV and hopefully you would´ve suffered from the same tearing I got...

[SneaksieDave]

(wasn´t there talk about 10.000? )

When you're in ICU or CCU for serious conditions (e.g. surgery), requiring long stays and tons of testing, you can see $10,000 per day.

 

Yeah, nothin' wrong with this country.

[Berny]

F§$%

 

That's bad ass (picture)

 

 

[Baddcog]

yeah i haven't seen the bill yet, but i'm sure it'll take years to pay off.

 

being drunk might make you more limber but doesn't do much for staying in control to begin with, probably better chasnces just being sober to not crash.

 

I used to crash all the time though, bones may be getting more brittle(though im not that old yet). i think it was just a nasty fall.

[SneaksieDave]

No health insurance? Damn. That's even more of what's fucked about this country. I've heard of a broken leg "costing" (gotta love that term, talking about medical need) $30,000, so you might be in for a whopper.

 

Look how the lowest screw sticks out of the bone. I wonder if they're going to have to fix that?

 

I do not have a lot good to say about the medical "profession." Fucking bunch of bumbling crooks. I'd have more sympathy for (try to)learn-as-you-go "practice" if it wasn't at thousands of dollars per hour (or minute, depending on where you are).

 

Sayeth Mr. Steele via Type O Neg, "Doctors and thieves, they both wear masks. Overpaid meat magicians."

[Baddcog]

yeah, when i got a broken leg from drunk driver 10 years ago it was easily 25,000, luckily he had insurance. this time i'm screwedf, but i can't afford the extra 200 a month for coverage so i'm prepared...

 

sure, i could budget my money a little better, but still wouldn't net me 200/month, maybe 50.

 

it sucks too 'cause i'm generally very healthy, unless something like this happens i don't need a doctor. i eat good, exercise, etc...but the system is so screwed and americans are so unhealthy overall that the buck gets passed on to those who can't afford it.

and of course now we have a 'public mandate' which is going to force everone to buy insurance, but how? where's that money coming from? Will i have to stop paying bills because i am forced to pay a private for profit company for a service i can't afford?

im all for a mandate IF its a govt, non profit company that puts profits back into keeping the system running. basicaly medicare for all. but the repubs are fighting any and everything that could possibly help this country out at all, and the Dems just seem to be caving into their every request.

 

the US govt is truly starting to sicken me, im going to need health care because of it.

 

hows that foir a one finger rant?lol

 

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yeah, that screw kindof bothers my (looking at it, can't 'feel' it yet). wondering how it's gonna be. the plan is to leave the hardware for good,

 

still have a ti rod in my leg, putting it in kindof botched my knee a bit, was scared to have them pull it out and do more damage.although this screw would be easier to remove.

[SneaksieDave]

Hey maybe it's an opportunity to sue for damages! Keep the system going round and round.

[Thiefette]

I thank the powers that be for giving us Tommy Douglas everytime I hear about the American health system. Here in Canada we know that if we get sick or hurt we can see a doctor or go to the hospital without having to bring the bank with us. Some provinces do pay small premiums I think but I'm fortunate to live in one that doesn't have them. Sometimes we complain about our waiting times being really long but it's the price we pay to get the treatment needed. I guess that's pretty scary too, especially when you're really sick and need specific tests but I'm not sure I would want the alternative. I don't think forcing people to buy health insurance is the answer either.

[Sotha]

Finland is probably a socialist country by american standards, but the US should learn a thing or two from us, at least in some things.

 

We have public and private healthcare. Private is expensive, but it has low waiting time.

Public is cheap for the patient, but you have to wait longer to get the treatment. Everyone is entitled to this care.

 

Of course the system is not perfect, but US system sounds even worse.

 

If I've understood correctly, the US is the only western country without a common/general healthcare system available to everyone. And that's quite weird for the 'land of liberty.'

[LEGION]

If I understood right is the american health system the most expensive (in world) and hence they can´t get it working for everyone. I recently saw Michael Moore´s (yeah, he´s no saint, but his movies have the right messages) movie 'Sicko' and hell, I couldn´t believe what I saw. The worst for me was the part where they drove homeless hurt people in near of homeless-homes, without telling them what is going on, and they didn´t know where to go.

 

Also Americans are so damn afraid of communists or socialists (Yeah, Obama is Hitler) when they hear "health care for all the people". They think of, hmm, my translator gives me this word that I can´t spell out: egalitarianism. :shakingHeadSmiley:

[BrokenArts]

I'm an American, and I would gladly move out of the US if I could. I didn't make these F'd rules.

[Baddcog]

well, being 'american' is much like being 'christian' these days. Capitalism IS the religion of the USA and if you don't like being a slave you are 'un-AMERICAN'

 

you really don't have to believe or practice what you preach. you just have to shout it louder than anyone else and you are right. hypocrisy rules and attention spans are short.

 

everyone has been convinced they have to support the system because that's the only way they have of achieving the american dream. problem is that dream is not attainable anymore. it's corporate rule, and you can't 'start up' a corporation to get rich.

 

people don't want to redistribute the wealth because that would mean they couldn't be the next billionaire. the sad fact is though that if we took the money from the top 3% and equally distributed it to everyone in america, only the lives of those 3% woul get worse. everyone else would be doing alot better.

[Fidcal]

We have public and private healthcare. Private is expensive, but it has low waiting time.

Public is cheap for the patient, but you have to wait longer to get the treatment. Everyone is entitled to this care.

 

Similar in UK but I never quite understand the long waits. Basically they are doing the same work - but one year later. It seems they are not overburdened but simply doing the same thing a year behind all the time.

 

Imagine a hospital where a team of surgeons has the capacity to do say 10 operations of a certain type each week - 250 a year. That is their capacity. But there is a waiting list of one year. That's 250 patients waiting a year - every year.

 

Now, take those patients and ship them to France or somewhere to get the op. Take them out the loop. Now there is no immediate queue in the UK so theoretically zero waiting time. The surgeons still do 250 ops a year. There are still 250 patients a year.

 

Of course, in practice there has to be a buffer. It would be inefficient because some patients change their mind, or get better, or die, or just don't turn up or turn up late, and the surgeons sit around playing cards until the next appointment. But let's say, one week is efficient, maybe two, maybe a month. One year makes no sense to me.

[Fidcal]

Afterthought - probably the reason is that if they were up to date then the medics don't feel the pressure to keep up with 250 a year so only do 240 and they slowly get more and more behind. When they get seriously behind then they are more desperate to keep up and gradually increase their workload until they are doing 250.

 

Perhaps the answer is some kind of penalty if the wait is greater than one month so they are under pressure to maintain 250.

[Sotha]

well, being 'american' is much like being 'christian' these days. Capitalism IS the religion of the USA and if you don't like being a slave you are 'un-AMERICAN'

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people don't want to redistribute the wealth because that would mean they couldn't be the next billionaire. the sad fact is though that if we took the money from the top 3% and equally distributed it to everyone in america, only the lives of those 3% woul get worse. everyone else would be doing alot better.

 

This is also what's starting to be visible in Finland. Globalisation spreads it, I suppose.

Politicians and companies demand patience in salary raises, but simultaneusly get themselves bigger and bigger cuts. It's all about the powerful/wealthy grabbing more loot for themselves.

 

There seem to be several echelons in the society. At around my level and below, you have to fight for every single penny. At the higher echelons money seems to pour in from doors and windows. The good side is of course, that these wealthy people are taxed more, and the money goes to all sorts of good stuff (like politicians rerouting tax money to their own election funds). The problem is that the legislation allows the really wealthy people to circumvent portions of taxes entirely legally. I can't help feeling that the system was deliberately designed such way. Oh, and the tax money -> politician's election fund -thing was described as "standard state habit" by the politicians...

 

The net effect of all of this is that the wealthy minority gets even more, while the poor people's situation gets even worse. This will result in all kinds social problems. People are frustrated and angry, which will most likely mean that populist parties will be quite successful in the coming elections. And nothing good will come out of that, I think.

 

At any rate, we've gone far from broken wrists now. But hey, politics is a nice topic.

[sparhawk]

i will be using them in the future though

 

Definitely a good idea! I always used to skate with protectors. Helped a lot. Unfortunately I crashed from a halfpipe with a broken protector without realizing it, and the wrist hurt for more then six weeks. Fortunately there was nothing broken but still it was really painfull.

 

I tried to get my son also wear protectors, but he feels that he would be seen as a weekling by the others if he does. Most of the kids, that I see skating wear any protectors...