Jump to content
The Dark Mod Forums

Disabling Catalyst AI

nbohr1more

By nbohr1more
in TDM Tech Support

 Share

Recommended Posts

Soulie

Soulie

Posted
Posted

Hey I'm having the same problems with my HD 6950. The sky bug really spoils the game to the extent of being unplayable for myself, so I've been putting it off for a few months now.

 

Is there any update on fixing this issue? Like a workaround? Or just some AMD whippings?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 124
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Posted Images

Baddcog

Baddcog

Posted
Posted

@Soulie,

 

You can turn off Catalyst AI in 10.11. But not in newer versions of the control center. That fixes the sky.

 

I just test 1.08 in which we have thedarkmod.exe and the sky was fixed WITH catalyst ai turned on (10.11). So I think once 1.08 rolls out we will be fine, untill then using an older version of the control center is the best way.

(you should still be able to use a newer driver for the card, just not a newer control center)

Dark is the sway that mows like a harvest

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Xarg

Xarg

Posted
Posted

Failing that, try turning off "Surface Format Optimisation". That *should* give the same effect.

Intel Sandy Bridge i7 2600K @ 3.4ghz stock clocks
8gb Kingston 1600mhz CL8 XMP RAM stock frequency
Sapphire Radeon HD7870 2GB FLeX GHz Edition @ stock @ 1920x1080

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • 1 month later...
Xarg

Xarg

Posted
Posted

Just tested with 11.12 and 11.11, they both work fine with Surface Format Optimisation turned off.

Intel Sandy Bridge i7 2600K @ 3.4ghz stock clocks
8gb Kingston 1600mhz CL8 XMP RAM stock frequency
Sapphire Radeon HD7870 2GB FLeX GHz Edition @ stock @ 1920x1080

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • 1 month later...
  • 2 years later...
Bikerdude

Bikerdude

Posted
Posted
Time to try an older driver. (Or sell that "bleeding edge" card and get a more mature model...)

Will have a look at see how far back i can go version wise, and in the meantime I'm give AMD a few days to come back with a response. Are regarding changing to a mature model, SteveL will let me know if he has the same FPS drop on his HD7800 series, this will determin if its a s/w ot h/w based issue.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
SteveL

SteveL

Posted
Posted

I PM'd you a set of results Biker. Seems I do get better perf on my 3-ish year old HD7800, if you can get it to drop as far as 26. I get 40+ even in the trickiest spots.I have the latest release Catalyst CC installed, 14.4 ( 14.10.1006-140417a-171099C )

 

I wondered if it was a game software issue instead but if you can get full fps using a different card, that's not it.

 

Forgot to mention in the PM, I play with 1920x1080 res and with most graphics settings set to max.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bikerdude

Bikerdude

Posted
Posted
Forgot to mention in the PM, I play with 1920x1080 res and with most graphics settings set to max.

Yeah the FPS is resolution and setting indipendant, the only silver lining to this on the 290 is I can have the AA at 16 on the highest setting @1650*1080 and the FPS remians unaffected. This is looking more and more like a shitty OpenGL implmentation in the driver and whats worse this issue will effect every AMD/ATi player who plays the Darkmod. :angry::(

Link to comment
Share on other sites
SteveL

SteveL

Posted
Posted
Yeah the FPS is resolution and setting indipendant, the only silver lining to this on the 290 is I can have the AA at 16 on the highest setting @1650*1080 and the FPS remians unaffected. This is looking more and more like a shitty OpenGL implmentation in the driver and whats worse this issue will effect every AMD/ATi player who plays the Darkmod. :angry::(

 

I didn't know that. I will try again later with more average settings to see whether it makes a difference on my card.

 

I've not noticed any problems playing TDM, but then I've never compared it with another card. Shame if AMD cards at the same price level as other types go slower with openGL.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
nbohr1more

nbohr1more

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Does performance improve if you rename TheDarkMod.exe to DarkAthena.exe ?

Does performance improve if you rename TheDarkMod.exe to Doom3.exe ?

 

Does performance improve if you disable AA and AF in TDM and force it via driver options?

 

Have you updated your motherboard chipset drivers too?

Please visit TDM's IndieDB site and help promote the mod:

 

http://www.indiedb.com/mods/the-dark-mod

 

(Yeah, shameless promotion... but traffic is traffic folks...)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bikerdude

Bikerdude

Posted
Posted
  • Does performance improve if you rename TheDarkMod.exe to DarkAthena.exe ?
  • Does performance improve if you rename TheDarkMod.exe to Doom3.exe ?
  • Does performance improve if you disable AA and AF in TDM and force it via driver options?
  • Have you updated your motherboard chipset drivers too?

  • will try
  • will try
  • No differnce with no AA or 16AA, either in-game or via CCC.
  • Will see if there are any.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
nbohr1more

nbohr1more

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Also, I think TDM has a few shadow methods in the r_useShadowMethod category, you might try changing the method used

and compare performance (not sure if this is true outside the SVN build?).

 

I know that Revelator had trouble with his AMD R9 card and the arbmapbufferrange extension so that may be related?

Please visit TDM's IndieDB site and help promote the mod:

 

http://www.indiedb.com/mods/the-dark-mod

 

(Yeah, shameless promotion... but traffic is traffic folks...)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bikerdude

Bikerdude

Posted
Posted
All of the above made no difference

I take that back, renaming to Darkathena.exe actually gave me 10FPS in the worst location and improved overall FPS. I need to test this some more to verfy it. How is renaming the game .exe getting around the OpenGL issue in the driver..?

 

  • Also, I think TDM has a few shadow methods in the r_useShadowMethod category, you might try changing the method used and compare performance
  • I know that Revelator had trouble with his AMD R9 card and the arbmapbufferrange extension so that may be related?

  • that command dosent appear to do anything.
  • I assume thats something to do with the engine code..?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
nbohr1more

nbohr1more

Posted
  • Author
Posted (edited)

DarkAthena.exe is Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Athena (OpenGL game). There is an optimized driver profile for it.

Edited by nbohr1more

Please visit TDM's IndieDB site and help promote the mod:

 

http://www.indiedb.com/mods/the-dark-mod

 

(Yeah, shameless promotion... but traffic is traffic folks...)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
nbohr1more

nbohr1more

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Yeah, it's been awhile since I tangled with ATI\AMD drivers. The last I recalled, there was a dedicated setup area in Catalyst Control Center for setting up

profiles and there were regular profile updates that were independent of the drivers. Now I can't find those profile updates and there's nothing about

profile management at rage3d.com except for the 3rd party "RadeonPro" tool... They have a history of having internal profiles that detect the executable

name and that's why I guessed the old trick would work.

Please visit TDM's IndieDB site and help promote the mod:

 

http://www.indiedb.com/mods/the-dark-mod

 

(Yeah, shameless promotion... but traffic is traffic folks...)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recent Status Updates

    • Ansome

      Ansome

      Turns out my 15th anniversary mission idea has already been done once or twice before! I've been beaten to the punch once again, but I suppose that's to be expected when there's over 170 FMs out there, eh? I'm not complaining though, I love learning new tricks and taking inspiration from past FMs. Best of luck on your own fan missions!
      · 4 replies
    • The Black Arrow

      The Black Arrow

      I wanna play Doom 3, but fhDoom has much better features than dhewm3, yet fhDoom is old, outdated and probably not supported. Damn!
      Makes me think that TDM engine for Doom 3 itself would actually be perfect.
      · 6 replies
    • Petike the Taffer

      Petike the Taffer

      Maybe a bit of advice ? In the FM series I'm preparing, the two main characters have the given names Toby and Agnes (it's the protagonist and deuteragonist, respectively), I've been toying with the idea of giving them family names as well, since many of the FM series have named protagonists who have surnames. Toby's from a family who were usually farriers, though he eventually wound up working as a cobbler (this serves as a daylight "front" for his night time thieving). Would it make sense if the man's popularly accepted family name was Farrier ? It's an existing, though less common English surname, and it directly refers to the profession practiced by his relatives. Your suggestions ?
      · 9 replies
    • nbohr1more

      nbohr1more

      Looks like the "Reverse April Fools" releases were too well hidden. Darkfate still hasn't acknowledge all the new releases. Did you play any of the new April Fools missions?
      · 5 replies
    • The Black Arrow

      The Black Arrow

      Hope everyone has the blessing of undying motivation for "The Dark Mod 15th Anniversary Contest". Can't wait to see the many magnificent missions you all may have planned. Good luck, with an Ace!
      · 0 replies
×
×
  • Create New...