Ropes: binding & hanging things

[Bikerdude 3741]

I have a rope I would like to have something from the bottom of it, in this case a wooden pallet.

 

How do I bind the pallet to the rope so that it moves when the player lands on the pallet..?

[grayman 2974]

IIRC there was a whole discussion about binding things to ropes. I don't remember where it is, though. I don't recall the conclusion, but my own experience with attempting this showed that the bound item did not behave as expected (the rope would go this way and the item would go that way). Probably due to the physics of the rope, which has multiple sections.

[RPGista 603]

I think the discussion was on Pranqster's map about the pagan village, he was making a lot of tests on binding the boards to a rope bridge and the problems you would get... I would also be interested in knowing if you could transfer energy like that, a weight tied to a rope that hits something else and knocks it over (like a wall), but it appears to be impossible?

[Bikerdude 3741]

So a fixed chain it is then.

[Bikerdude 3741]

Well did the next best thing -

 

created a cradle for the pallet to sit in, added a bunch of chains and bound them all to the cradle, then created a func pendulum and bound the cradle to that :-)

[Bikerdude 3741]

Ok this has just reminded me of an old question:

 

Why is it when the player drops/jumps onto or steps on to something that is moving like the above, the player dosent move..? its very immersion breaking. :-(

 

I would like when the player is standing on the pallet that he/she swings with it etc.

[rich_is_bored 281]

The physics engine doesn't properly account for player/object friction unless you use a func_mover. In Doom 3, physics props were never expected to carry the player's weight so they didn't design them to.

[demagogue 1265]

Just take it for granted that D3's physics system is borked & can't do very much.

Be nice if somebody out there rigged a good physics system in id4, but it'd take a lot of work.

I'm just hoping we're lucky some other group does it and we can take it, because I don't think anyone on our team has the time to do it.

[Bikerdude 3741]

Ah ok, thanks for that. I shall try a fucn mover and see what happens..

[demagogue 1265]

If it's anything like hanging bodies, if you move the thing it's going to shake like CRAZY all over the place, very glitchy. Maybe a bigger object like a pallet won't suffer from that issue. Good luck.

[Bikerdude 3741]

If it's anything like hanging bodies, if you move the thing it's going to shake like CRAZY all over the place, very glitchy. Maybe a bigger object like a pallet won't suffer from that issue. Good luck.

Well another idea is to build a complete brush/patch model of assy and then make it a chain entity, I will give that a try and see how it behaves.

[Komag 20]

all of the stuff in "Swing" was pasted together as solid func_static items (IIRC), then set up to spin or pendulum or whatever