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I was at my brother's place, playing TDM on an extra LCD TV in the basement. The darker areas hardly stood out from the backlighting of the monitor. I frankly can't believe consumers accept hardware like that. I mean, there are a LOT of dark movies out there.

 

Moral of the story, avoid low-end TVs and monitors. I'm typing this using a monitor that I picked up at a garage sale for the price of a good pizza. Even though it isn't IPS, its not half bad. TDM is easily playable on it, it has in-built speakers, and it does more than 1366x768, though not full 1080.

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Well I'm actually going over there in a few days, but this time I will bring an extra monitor to use. :) Its not as big, but it has better contrast. Is it true that they set the levels on TVs to extreme levels at the store?

 

I'm just glad that the TV I picked has good contrast. Back then, I didn't know about IPS/DSTN displays. DSTN is where the contrast is low and the colors appear to invert if you look at the monitor at a sharp anble. I don't know for sure, but I think mine is IPS.

 

My TV is CCFL-lit though, and that was a mistake. Those will be the first part of the TV to burn out. Newer TVs use LEDs to light the screen instead of CCFLs. Also, plasma TVs have REALLY good contrast for dark games like TDM but they wear out quickly. Plasma TVs also draw lots of power. They draw even more than CCFL-based LCD screens!

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Yep, CRTs are still loved by some of us because they have awesome contrast! I finally got rid of all of mine though. They're just so big! We put a perfectly good 17 inch CRT monitor outside with a "free" sign on it and it was gone in less than 10 minutes. lol

 

Also, what's the story with those glossy screns? It seems like a lot of people hate them, but they're still popular.

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Glossy screens look shiny and sell well in the stores, but are so horrible and make viewing problematic obviously. It'll take a while before the general public realizes it as well.

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Yeah, OLED will be awesome. It will have real per-pixel lighting, instead of having a constant (or even variable) backlight as we do now. It will also boost your battery life on mobile devices if you use white text on a black background because the background portion will not have to be lit.

 

This video explains how LCDs function, where you have to light the whole screen, then block out the light in sections that you want to be dark... but you cannot block out all of the light in those dark sections.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiejNAUwcQ8

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Yup, I habe an Eizo as a computer monitor, which has a pretty awesome contrast. Those were 4oo € well spent. My 55 inch LG 3D TV is also pretty good due to its local LED backlight dimming. But of course both of these displays don't compare against the small 25 inch SONY OLED we have at work. Such amazing black values.

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I have an old 20" pseudo widescreen crt NEC diamondtron multisync FE2111sb sitting next to me. Used to be my primary monitor @1920x1440 but now its at a workstation we built for my young nephew. :(

 

The complete lack of color banding and blacks are just amazing and when you run it at 90-110hz there's no visible jitter and its awesome. I miss it in many ways.

 

Hopefully 10bit color on oleds will be the standard? Color banding for clouds/skys/lit areas is something we've all become accustomed to on all of the mass market 8bit panels.

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Remember those early LCDs on laptops back in the 90s? They weren't even able to show smooth movement without becoming extremely blurry. I tried playing Doom on one of those at one point and it was a headache inducing experience, especially if you used "always run".

 

These days, even cheap laptops have this particular problem solved. Back then, you had to spend a lot more if you wanted a laptop with a screen capable of video without giving the user a headache.

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The culprit is the HDMI black level.

My advise is to always use the DVI port when it comes to connect a monitor/TV to PC VGA cards.

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what's the story with those glossy screns? It seems like a lot of people hate them, but they're still popular.

I'd guess it's partly to do with cost. When I ordered my custom-built laptop nearly two years ago, I went with the glossy screen option as having a matte screen put me over budget. I occasionally find the reflection on the gloss screen annoying, but not enough to make me regret saving the money - can't remember how much it was, but as it was a 19" screen it was a fairly significant difference. (And to go off-topic for a moment, it looks like I bought one of the last 19" laptops ever made. As far as I can see, no-one makes them any more. Is that right?)(And could that be why I got it so cheap?)

 

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Yeah, in the 'New Content' page, the title showed up as

 

"Its amazing how really REALLY bad games like TDM (and oth..."

 

I thought, "This is either the start of a flame war or it's an ambiguously-phrased start to a sentence." Fortunately it was the latter... :smile:

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This is a "bridge" of monitors in Ghana.post-17754-0-09122600-1391490620.jpgpost-17754-0-09122600-1391490620.jpg

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A bridge made of monitors? Nice to see the stuff we put in the "e-waste" for less fortunate countries is being put to good use :rolleyes:

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