Vote on site changes, redux.

[Subjective Effect]

So my last poll was rubbish. I didn't quite get how limited it was. So this is the redux version which should allow you to express yourselves a bit better. You have to choose one thing in each category (like, don't care, dislike) but it seems that's the only choices we have.

 

I should clarify some things.

 

5. Mobile site - if you have a proper responsive site you don't actually need this as the site will work on mobile anyway. And I' told some people DL mods and mission on their phones so this would have all the features of the full site.

 

6. Tapatalk - this does not affect the site for people who don't want to use it. It is ONLY for people who have and want to use Tapatalk for forum access. It's really easy to set up, doesn't affect the forum at all (if you don't have Tapatalk you'll never know about it - TTLG forums have it enabled. Go have a look. You can't tell.).

[RJFerret]

Sweet, nice, thanks for the extra effort to set it up. (Note, it's technically possible to vote both for and against something, so if folks don't intend to do that, please watch out for it.)

 

6. Tapatalk - this does not affect the site for people who don't want to use it. It is ONLY for people who have and want to use Tapatalk for forum access. It's really easy to set up, doesn't affect the forum at all (if you don't have Tapatalk you'll never know about it - TTLG forums have it enabled. Go have a look. You can't tell.).

FYI ,this runs contrary to what the company says in their FAQ:

Q: Why a pop-up is shown in my mobile browser?

A: After you installed Tapatalk, a one-time alert will be shown to mobile web users to notify the Tapatalk option.

[gnartsch]

I don't think that making the News page is of much interest, especially for players who do not even know TDM yet.

They would read about 'improvements' without really knowing about the game itself.

So, the News page wouldn't be a good replacement, because it is basicly Text-Only as well, except for a few AI-detail-studies, which do not tell me all that much about the game.

And with about 1 post per year, or 2 maybe, it wouldn't be all that exiting anyway.

Experienced TDM fans can still bookmark whatever page they prefer.

 

What the Main page really needs are some eye-catching screenshots. That's what would create interest fot potential new players.

The current version is text-only, and many people won't even read it.

I like the current Main page 'in general' because it is quite informative and short. Up to the point, so to speak.

How about adding a slideshow which blends in the images from the Media page?

Cheap trick, I know, but it would be nice to watch and would not clutter that page overly much.

Well, adding 2 static beatiful screenshots on top would not hurt, though.

 

Don't see a reason to duplicate the content of the Main page to other pages.

Just creates useless redundancy and additional maintaince.

 

Edit: I never read the News or the info on the Main page except for the headline and maybe 1 or 2 outstanding bullets in the text.

So, at least for me it wouldn't help to catch my interest on TDM at all.

Let images speak!

Edited February 18, 2014 by gnartsch

[jaxa]

Poll is flawed yet again:

 

[#10355] You must cast your vote in each question of the poll.

 

I didn't select any for "don't like", so I just picked "mod info panel" for that one as well as "indifferent".

 

About combining the download pages... there is a lot of info on the main downloads page that might not make the cut to the combined page. Clearly what you want is a vertical layout, not columns, since the majority of the page will be focused on mission downloads. We should make a few versions of the combined download page to see how we can convey all or most of the information. If you need any help PM me.

[Subjective Effect]

I'm sorry but that's all the forum software will allow me to do.

[Subjective Effect]

Also, with the Amazon mod competition I think it would be a good idea to get on this asap.

[nbohr1more]

Holy moly!!!

 

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/square-enix-amazon-launch-the-ultimate-thief-mod-contest/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=square-enix-amazon-launch-the-ultimate-thief-mod-contest

 

Is this true?

[Goldwell]

US Residents only!

 

Sadly I wasn't born in the nation of the free so no deep fried shotguns for me .... or Thief modding competition entry slips

[ungoliant]

Square Enix and Amazon, in collaboration with a host of gaming partners including AMD and the team behind The Dark Mod, today announced the ultimate THIEF mod contest in celebration of the upcoming reboot to THIEF.

dafuq...?! is there something the team has been holding back that they might like to talk about right about now?

 

ok some of this has to be bullshit. according to ttlg, EM have been racing around the internet to remove all traces of the word Dark Mod from the contest announcement pages. I have a feeling there will not be any official canon Thief material allowed on TDM yet, nor official recognition of the mods existence by EM. maybe it was a prank?

 

edit: its gotta be a scam. theres no way nobody in the TDM community has heard about this before now if TDM team was ever involved at any level of this thing. And the whole "trade your email adress + full name for FREE VIDEO GAEMEZZZ" thing? come the fuck on.

Edited February 19, 2014 by ungoliant

[Subjective Effect]

Please can we keep this thread for discussion about website changes. Thanks.

[Subjective Effect]

FYI ,this runs contrary to what the company says in their FAQ:

You get one pop-up, the first time you use a mobile to go to the forum. It doesn't affect the forum in any other way. You seem very resistant to this idea. Is there some other concern you have?

[Lux]

Poll is flawed yet again:

 

 

So lets start another (3) and then any comments in the previous 2 will be ignored/not read. :\

[Subjective Effect]

Ok, this is what a responsive site looks like. Have a look on a big screen.

 

If you have a smartphone I suggest you look at it on that too, and also on any tablets or small screen devices you have. Rotate the screen and see what happens, especially if you have something like a Nexus 7.

 

Only the News and the Downloads sections work. All links are dummy links.

 

So - some caveats.

1. This in not my final suggested template.
   
2. This is to show you what a difference in approach can make.
   
3. I haven't used all the graphics on the current site (and the onclick images on the main menu are all broken btw).
   
4. I built this with my own templating system. thedarkmod.com is built on Wordpress which has respsonsive templates. I'm not suggesting using my templates, but rather just using a responsive template from Wordpress.
   

Tell me what you think.

 

Here is the link: http://www.southquar...mweb/index.html

[jaxa]

The mission list is not wide enough (1366x768). I would increase the width of the column slightly and decrease the font-size on the table. I'm also thinking: drop the border on the left column, keep or drop the border on the mission list column.

[stumpy]

the border on the mission list is too close to the bottom of the browser, it needs a one centimetre gap between it and the bottom bar of the browser, because currently it looks like the list has scrolled of the bottom of the box.

[gnartsch]

The front page is text only- Not very inviting to explore and get a quick idea what TDM looks like.

A revolving tiny little 100x80 pixel image won't do the trick.

 

I am still not convinced that combining MOD & Mission downloads does any good.

Too crowded and as jaxa pointed out, too little space for the missions.

(In my mind a couple of additional columns would be nice as well:

- link to the mission thread (!)

- date of last update)

I think both should have their own page - and each might have a quick link to the other one for fast & intuitive navigation.

[Subjective Effect]

Guys. This is just a tester.

 

The whole thing can we wider, columns can be bigger, smaller, reordered. Whatever.

 

 

[Subjective Effect]

And I haven't put any background image in. In not an artist so messing with images isn't my thing. I'll hack one in though.

[Diego]

What does "Combining the Download sections" mean exactly?

[Subjective Effect]

It means instead of having the mod DL and the missions DL pages as separate have them both on the same page. There are lots of ways to do this.

[Diego]

In that case I don't like it. I frequently navigate the missions section to see if there's anything new, and adding more download related stuff there will clutter that page.

[Subjective Effect]

But it doesn't have to. The Missions can have their own panel.

 

Anyway, seems people want it kept separate. No problem.

 

I'm interested to know why people don't like/want Tapatalk.

Edited February 22, 2014 by Subjective Effect

[taaaki]

I'm going to re-iterate what gnartsch and co. stated: I don't don't really see the point of combining the game download with the mission downloads. It's just too much, regardless of how the panels are implemented.

 

In terms of the front page, I think it would be possible to make it work by moving the media to just above the news column (without the "Media" title) and extending the news column to consume the media column. That way, we have the TDM description right next to good screenshots / concept art as the first thing people see when they visit the site. There should still be a separate news page to allow regulars to go straight to the new stuff from a bookmark.

 

 

 

 

Sent from my GT>9000 using Tapatalkwololol (I think this is reason enough)

[Subjective Effect]

You know you can turn that Tapatalk sig off, right?

 

Anyway, that's what I think the site should be like. even if it's just centering the current version that would be much better. On a 1080p monitor the full right half of the screen is black at present.

[Springheel]

I think centering and widening it is a given.