Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

[lowenz]

*POM is not a simple "upgraded bump mapping, it's *real* (for a rasterized 3D scene ) geometry processing. It's why some control over it is good.

*The same for volumetric lighting, see STALKER series or Fallout 4 (god rays density): control over it is always good!

*Sharpen is a sharpening filter to "create" some more texture detail (not real necessary on "Ultra" or "High")

*Tessellation creates on-fly more mesh detail (triangles! poligons!)

*Contact hardening shadows: the shadows are more and more blended/soft increasing the distance from the light source that cast them

Edited August 20, 2016 by lowenz

[lowenz]

[Oldjim]

I know I said GTX 750Ti or GTX 950 but further checking and the GTX 960 is virtually the same price as the 950 (only £10 more expensive) so that is a much better option if the 750Ti won't do it

[Oldjim]

Interesting

Playing on low with my 650Ti 1GB card and, at least in the first part, it gives me about 30fps

[chakkman]

There's some tips on how to improve performance, and keep the visual here: http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-get-the-best-performance-out-of-deus-ex-mankind-divided/

 

I'm still downloading, hope i can play later. I guess i will start on medium to high settings, and see how it works.

Edited August 23, 2016 by chakkman

[Oldjim]

From that link

 

"At minimum spec, which is a HD 7870 2GB or GTX 660 2GB, paired with an Core i3-2100, we aim to give you an average of 30 fps, at 1280*720 resolution, but this is at the low quality preset.

So why am I getting 30fps at 1920 x 1080 with my crappy graphics card

[Bikerdude]

Its all about tweaking the detail settings, that and some game work better on nVidia versus Amd and visa-versa.

 

So whats the game like, can most of B$ from some critics be ignored..?

[chakkman]

Yeah, i guess it highly depends on the rest of your hardware.

[lowenz]

As expected sharpen is terrible -> OFF, turn that stupid sharpening filter OFF

 

Men, we need an option to turn off the TAFFING film grain too!

Edited August 23, 2016 by lowenz

[lowenz]

Radeon 7850 1 GB (the very minimum GPU for this game IMHO) system:

Edited August 23, 2016 by lowenz

[lowenz]

Problems/suggestions for the future:

 

*Sharpen: only use with Temporal AA

*Film Grain can't be disable: it's subtle and good but I want the relative switch to turn it off

*Input handling: MAKE ANOTHER THREAD TO MANAGE THE INPUT dear Nixxes developers, it's a terrible unresponsive with low FPS (remember the Skyrim input lag? Same thing here)

*Hold Aim: an option for toggling! An option for toggling! Jensen is a superhuman!

*Animations: same bad design choices of Human Revolution (take an object -> your gun magically disappears, no holster animation at all! / open a door with action key -> it magically opens, you can do better devs! It's Deus Ex, not a taffing CoD! Learn from Crysis 2/3 about immersive animations! )

*Footsteps: as in HR you can crouch-run and noboby ear you -> STUPID

*Smart Vision must see lost weapons and ammunitions.....now it shows only bodies and objects of interest (chosen how?)

Edited August 23, 2016 by lowenz

[lowenz]

Edit (all included in post above)

Edited August 23, 2016 by lowenz

[Bikerdude]

Men, we need an option to turn off the TAFFING film grain too!

Erg, I hate film grain.

 

[Oldjim]

Having got to Prague - frame rate down to 20fps so won't bother playing any more until I get a new graphics card

These are the settings

Edited August 23, 2016 by Oldjim

[lowenz]

Erg, I hate film grain.

 

OR it's the (volumetric) lighting implementation (see the 2 Wolfenstein).

 

But it's subtle.....you can endure it

Edited August 23, 2016 by lowenz

[lowenz]

Having got to Prague - frame rate down to 20fps so won't bother playing any more until I get a new graphics card

I'm in Dubai and I use these settings now:

 

[Oldjim]

looking at this http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/08/23/deus-ex-mankind-divided-benchmarked/3 ideally you need 4GB ram but at 2GB the GTX 960 might just hack it

[chakkman]

I can play on high settings with my 2 GB VRam GTX 770. The main thing consuming the VRam seems to be the MSAA option, at least that one gives out a warning, when you try to activate it. On high settings, i get an average of 47 fps or higher in Dubai with my system. Anyway, if it's siginificantly less in Prague, then i'll have to see with my settings. So far, it's running quite ok.

 

What do you guys think of the difficulty? Seems pretty easy on Deus Ex in the first mission. But then, you have all the augs and stuff, it probably will get more difficult after you lose those (which i assume will happen). Too much happening in the tutorial mission too, so much stuff being told... i really wished they would teach you all that in the course of the game, not all in the first mission.

[Bikerdude]

@Jim, what FPS are you currently getting..?

[Goldwell]

I'm running this on high settings and getting great FPS. I have an i7 4GHZ and a GTX 980TI so I guess my system would be classed as high end however a big thing that makes games run better for me is running it in bordered window mode (it's in the options menu called "Exclusive fullscreen").

 

Shame about nixxes being responsible for the PC port though, they left Thief 2014 as a broken mess (sound bugs and bad optimization).

 

Played through the first level and loving this game so far, the exploration is really nice and graphically it looks amazing.

Edited August 24, 2016 by Goldwell

[lowenz]

Exclusive mode is NOT the borderless mode.

Borderless mode is "non-exclusive".

 

Thief 2014 is a good "not so good porting benchmark"

Edited August 24, 2016 by lowenz

[Oldjim]

@Biker - as stated earlier about 20fps in Prague and this was even in the cellar where you get the augs sorted which surprised me

Edited August 24, 2016 by Oldjim

[Oldjim]

This is worth a check http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/08/23/deus-ex-mankind-divided-benchmarked/2

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided has a built-in benchmark hidden in the Extras menu. It's about 90 seconds long but we benchmark only the first 30 seconds of it as this contains the most stressful part and we found it to be

[chakkman]

I'm running this on high settings and getting great FPS. I have an i7 4GHZ and a GTX 980TI so I guess my system would be classed as high end however a big thing that makes games run better for me is running it in bordered window mode (it's in the options menu called "Exclusive fullscreen").

 

Shame about nixxes being responsible for the PC port though, they left Thief 2014 as a broken mess (sound bugs and bad optimization).

 

Played through the first level and loving this game so far, the exploration is really nice and graphically it looks amazing.

 

Yeah! Especially as they don't seem to hassle the player like in Human Revolution, where you got "Get going, faster, faster!" hints right from the start, and even missions changed according to how much time you took before missions e.g.

[chakkman]

This is worth a check http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/08/23/deus-ex-mankind-divided-benchmarked/2

2016-08-24_091827.jpg

 

Oh, cool, thanks for pointing that out. I'll do a check.

 

Getting these results on my system, with the "high" preset in Mankind Divided:

 

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 v3 3.3 GHz

Graphics card: NVidia Geforce GTX 770

Sound card: ASUS Xonar DS

Motherboard: ASUS Z87-K

Ram: 8 GB

OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit

Good enough to play i guess.

Edited August 24, 2016 by chakkman