2016+ CPU/GPU News

[Oldjim]

I agree and Gigabyte is my preference

[Bikerdude]

Heh, well just for licks warranty wise -

 

Msi - Z97-G43 MOBO - 3yr

Gigabyte - Windforce GX 970 GPU- 3yr

Evga - Supernova NX650 gold PSU - 10yr

Samsung - 840 evo SSD - 3yr, well over that now and still fine

Creative - Xfi sound card - this thing is getting on for 10yrs old and still going (I've still got my old Audigy 1/2 cards...)

WesturnDigital - 1TB Green HDD this thing is over 5yrs old and still truckin (I have 2x of them in my Synology nas)

Crucial - 16Gb DDR3 RAM - Lifetime

Intel - Core i7 4790k - I have never had a CPU die on me in over 19 years

[jaxa]

Hot Chips 2016: Exynos M1 Architecture Disclosed

 

Hot Chips 2016: NVIDIA Discloses Tegra Parker Details

 

2160p encode... automotive rated SoC? I guess they mean that your NVIDIA Tegra Parker SoC won't crash while your driverless car is on the go and kill you. Supposedly the Nintendo NX will use some kind of Tegra Parker SoC.

 

More Zen talk in case somebody hasn't read about it in-depth: Everything Zen: AMD Presents New Microarchitecture At HotChips

[Bikerdude]

@Tegra - hah, thats a joke. There has been various products that has been put in where it just hasen't worked, portal consoles, phones etc.

[Oldjim]

Comparison of RX 480 and GTX 1060 on Doom

This was a real eye opener for me - the increased average frame rate on the 480 with Vulkan but with a whopping drop in minimum rate and given that my monitor is 60fps limited I don't see any advantage in the better average frame rate

http://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/rx-480-vs-gtx-1060-vulkan

 

[Bikerdude]

What you need to look for is a graph that show latency and the 99th percentile, you want the to get the card that can keep a better average framerate with a low as possible the amount of min frame rate spikes.

 

But if history holds tru then nVidia will be better, but when the AMD card can be found for £50 cheaper than its up to you. but its looking like (see links below) that AMD is getting great max frame rate (like sequential reads on an SSD) but the min frame rate (like 4k QD1 reads) is pants in Vulkan compared to openGL

 

- http://wccftech.com/rx-480-gtx-1060-dx12-vulkan-tested/

- http://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/rx-480-vs-gtx-1060-vulkan

[Bikerdude]

nVidia Fast sync, worth trying if you have a Geforce 1000 series or higher card, although there is no reason it can't be enabled on 900 series -

 

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/936446/fast-sync-and-maxwell/?offset=3

[jaxa]

Kaby Lake has landed.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10610/intel-announces-7th-gen-kaby-lake-14nm-plus-six-notebook-skus-desktop-coming-in-january

 

No improvements in IPC, faster clocks, better Speed Shift, no iGPU improvement, massive improvements for decoding 4K or VP9 video.

[Bikerdude]

nVidia Fast sync, worth trying if you have a Geforce 1000 series or higher card, although there is no reason it can't be enabled on 900 series -

 

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/936446/fast-sync-and-maxwell/?offset=3

So installed the latest driver 372.70 and the option is right there, from what I understand Fast-sync is only usfull when your framerate is above the vertical refresh rate of your monitor -

 

 

Otherwise you can force enable this using nVidia inspector -

 

- http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=407785

[Bikerdude]

Kaby Lake has landed.

I'm betting the slow booting issue (skylake / z170) is still present on this plateform, that and KL dosent support windows 7/8.1 at this time due to M$/intel being in collusion to force people/biz to upgrade (Class action suite)

 

So am hoping AMD next high end CPU will be faster than my 4790k and have comparable FP performance.

[lowenz]

About the fast VSync: I have it too with 372.54 and a 750 Ti.

Edited August 31, 2016 by lowenz

[Bikerdude]

About the fast VSync: I have it too with 372.54 and a 750 Ti.

Have you noticed any improvment and in what games..?

[Bikerdude]

So am hoping AMD next high end CPU will be faster than my 4790k and have comparable FP performance.

Scratch that, looks like AMD caved to M$ and their bullshit, the new Zen CPU's will be Win10 only. So unless that changes AMD can go fuck themselves along with Intel and M$.

[Bikerdude]

Scratch that, looks like AMD caved to M$ and their bullshit, the new Zen CPU's will be Win10 only. So unless that changes AMD can go fuck themselves along with Intel and M$.

So we have more info on the 'it will only be supportws by win10 b$, with the keyword being "support" and not "compatibility." So its looking like the CPU will work fine on older OS's, its M$ that wont support the new CPU's not Intel/Amd - well m$ can quite frankly do one.

 

- https://www.techpowerup.com/225627/smt-and-power-management-behind-kaby-lake-and-zen-windows-10-restrictions

[lowenz]

Have you noticed any improvment and in what games..?

Not tested yet!

[jaxa]

Update: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 Settlement Claims Website Now Open

 

$30 per card. U.S. residents only. NO MONEY for Bikerman.

 

https://www.gtx970settlement.com/Home.aspx

Edited September 13, 2016 by jaxa

[Bikerdude]

Its cool, a rep from Gigabyte UK gave me the game code for The Witcher 3 ages ago in direct relation to this.

[teh_saccade]

Apologies if this is already mentioned, but a new update to the ever decreasing Windows 10 (thankfully I have deferred update options on my main PC w/nvidia card), has rendered AMD drivers inoperable for certain models (my laptop has R7 200m, which is no longer recognised in any graphics app / game, defaulting to on-board intel crud).



A few days ago, (yet another) hotfix was released for this issue:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+10+-+64#

If anyone has been having issues with AMD / Catalyst and any games - hopefully the hotfix will patch it up so that the card is recognised and works again.

Edited October 16, 2016 by teh_saccade

[jaxa]

NVIDIA Announces GeForce GTX 1050 Ti & GTX 1050: Entry-Level Cards Launching October 25th

 

Seems great if you are upgrading from an earlier low TDP card, although the TDP is higher than GTX 750 Ti. Features the same big boost in core and memory clocks we've seen in the 10X0 cards.

[lowenz]

My overclocked 750 Ti can already run everything @1080, excluding "over the top" games and disabling MSAA or maximum size textures. DOOM (4) runs @30-40 FPS with Vulkan.

Edited October 19, 2016 by lowenz

[nbohr1more]

Well, I guess I'm no longer in the "low-end" club. I got a Geforce GTX 1050 for Christmas.

After having to struggle for about a week, a DVI to HDMI adapter has allowed this thing to

provide an actual signal to my monitor (WOO!).

 

Looking at price\performance ratio listings and this thing is pretty high on the list.

This might be the best sweet-spot price since my old Radeon 9500 Pro. Pretty gobsmacked to see a $100

card that can out-punch over 60% of the "high-end" cards on the GPU charts. So I guess the big question

is what happens when AMD's Vega chips come out. Do the RX470 \ 460 cards move to the sub 100 ranges or

do they more or less stay put and just let Vega live next to the GTX 1080. I guess it depends on

whether Vega outguns the GTX 1080. AMD is getting in the swing of things with their DX12 \ Vulkan

\ Asynch shader initiatives so this is looking to be a good fight. (Too bad about the OpenGL side of

things for AMD though. You can't just give-up on OpenGL and focus on Vulkan guys.)

 

DOOM 2016 Demo runs great, usually above 80FPS at my native 1360x768.

[lowenz]

Well, I guess I'm no longer in the "low-end" club. I got a Geforce GTX 1050 for Christmas.

After having to struggle for about a week, a DVI to HDMI adapter has allowed this thing to

provide an actual signal to my monitor (WOO!).

 

How can it be?LOL

Edited January 4, 2017 by lowenz

[lowenz]

DOOM 2016 Demo runs great, usually above 80FPS at my native 1360x768.

Such an amazing engine, this ID Tech 6(66).

Edited January 4, 2017 by lowenz

[nbohr1more]

How can it be?LOL

The HDMI port on the card is not a primary port apparently. My current monitor is really an LCD TV from my wife's exercise room

as my main (real) monitor died about 6 months ago. It has VGA and HDMI but no DVI or Displayport. Someday I'll have a proper monitor again.

Until then, my low 1360x768 resolution means I can crank quality settings up

[s.urfer]

Speaking of TV monitors and 1360x768 resolution, I never managed to get anything but AMD cards to actually use those natively. I was always stuck with 1280x720 and upscale, or 1920x1080 and downscale with my Toshiba TV. Which is the choice of hanging or shooting, if you want to use the system for anything more than video watching.

 

Did that change with recent Nvidia drivers, or is it an oddity of my TV?