New Graphics Card Help!

[Taquito]

Ok so to take things in perspective, SSD and a 1050Ti card would be more cost efficient than the 1060 cause my PC would not be capable of using the 1060 to the best potential.

 

- Is if difficult to install an SSD? I've installed a video card before and that's it.

 

- How will a 1050T fare in longevity? Cause in the future, if I find a game I like to play but I can't cause the card isn't enough, but at the same time, I don't want to spent 300$ or more in an 1060 and have the same issue cause I don't have an SSD or my PC cant use the 1060 to its best potential.

[lowenz]

About the SSD installation, the procedure is simple IF your system partition occupies a memory space <= SSD capacity.

If not you can reduce it (uninstalling programs, moving documents to somewhere else) OR reinstall Windows.

 

1050 Ti longevity is = 1060 longevity for 1920x1080 / High-Medium graphic options / no MSAA in modern games / no VR / No CUDA / No OpenCL / No deep learning frameworks

Edited November 27, 2016 by lowenz

[Bikerdude]

About the SSD installation, the procedure is simple IF your system partition occupies a memory space <= SSD capacity. If not you can reduce it (uninstalling programs, moving documents to somewhere else) OR reinstall Windows.

He can reinstall windows on the new SSD and just keep all his old data on HDD, simples.

[Lux]

I'm really curious, how does this system have 10GB of RAM?

 

EDIT: Oh so they have 2x 4GB and 2x 1GB modules? Wierd layout.

 

 

My only other concern is that the page also states: "Interface: SATA"

 

Doesn't specify SATA II. So an SSD may be capped at 150MB/s throughput. Seems odd that a computer would have USB 3.0 on it and not SATA II. Maybe HP didn't specifiy it was SATA II? It will still be 2-3 times faster than a HDD but not 5x or faster. Seek times will be instant though so, still quite an upgrade.

Edited November 28, 2016 by Lux

[Destined]

He can reinstall windows on the new SSD and just keep all his old data on HDD, simples.

In that case, I would suggest to format the old HDD (after the successful reinstallation). I did not do that, when I upgraded my sytem and now I am stuck with an old Windows version on my HDD, that I cannot deinstall. Only option I found so far, was to format.

[lowenz]

To uninstall the OLD Windows installation rename it windows.old and use the (new) Windows clean-up tool

Edited November 28, 2016 by lowenz

[Lux]

For Win7 http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/19151-windows-old-folder-delete.html

 

Also, has to be run as Administrator or you'll get permissions error.

 

You want to make sure you get all of your /user/_profilename_/documents /photos/ /music/ etc. stuff out of there first and copied/moved over to your new installation prior to deleting. If you have the room to spare it's good to keep it around for week or two just to make sure there's isn't something you forgot to grab.

[Destined]

To uninstall the OLD Windows installation rename it windows.old and use the (new) Windows clean-up tool

Hm, I have seen tons of sites telling how to remove the windows.old folder, but it never occurred to me to simply rename it I will try that, as soon as I get home.

 

For Win7 http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/19151-windows-old-folder-delete.html

 

Also, has to be run as Administrator or you'll get permissions error.

 

You want to make sure you get all of your /user/_profilename_/documents /photos/ /music/ etc. stuff out of there first and copied/moved over to your new installation prior to deleting. If you have the room to spare it's good to keep it around for week or two just to make sure there's isn't something you forgot to grab.

Thanks for the reminder. I am pretty sure, I have copied everything I need, but I will check before I delete it. BTW I think that in Vista (which my former Windows version was), the User folder was not part of the Windows folder. But it is better to check, just to be safe.

[Oldjim]

I had My Documents folder on Vista (and now on Win 7) on a separate drive but that didn't stop a load of programs depositing stuff in it. Steam Games was a bad example of that

[Bikerdude]

You dont have to remove windows off the old HDD, just selection new install the choose the SSD. Then once windows is installed on the SSD, browse to the HDD and rename the old windows folder etc.

[Destined]

Renaming and using the clean up tool work without any problems. Thanks a lot! Now I have 20 GB more space on my HDD.

[lowenz]

Renaming and using the clean up tool work without any problems. Thanks a lot! Now I have 20 GB more space on my HDD.

[Taquito]

What's the general price for an SSD?

[lowenz]

What's the general price for an SSD?

Crucial MX300 275 GB -> 75 Euro(s)

Crucial MX300 525 GB -> 95 Euro(s)

 

(see amazon)

Edited November 28, 2016 by lowenz

[Lux]

FWIW, if you can afford a 500GB, get it. If you get a 256GB you'll just wish you'd spung for the larger drive after you've installed 5-6 games + windows cause you'll be out of space (modern game releases).

 

Also, do not partition the entire drive. Leave about 5-8% (your choice, I use 8-10%) of it unpartitioned in Windows setup. Then it performs fine if its full or if it needs to replace bad blocks over time and performance shouldn't decrease with time. So 512GB drive = ~470GB formatted. 256GB drive = ~235GB formatted.

[Bikerdude]

The Samsung Evo drive I linked a few posts above is the fastest 2.5" SSD bar none, and at the current price of $79 for the 250gb versions its a steal. @Taquito, where are you based..?

[s.urfer]

Was that a Black Friday special? Price is now 20% higher...

[Taquito]

The Samsung Evo drive I linked a few posts above is the fastest 2.5" SSD bar none, and at the current price of $79 for the 250gb versions its a steal. @Taquito, where are you based..?

 

 

Puerto Rico. We got a 11% local tax and a 5% municipal tax here

[Bikerdude]

Ok, give me a list of online places you prefer to use and I will try and find the best deal for a 1050ti and Samsung evo 250gb.

[Taquito]

The only places I've ever shopped online is Steam and Amazon. I'm open to other options as well.

[Bikerdude]

Ok so a quick look on amazon.com for items from reputable manufacturers (only ones that offer multi year warranty - Asus, Msi, Gigabyte, Evga, Samsung) -

1. 4GB Asus GTX 1050Ti - $159
2. 250gb Samsung evo 2.5" SSD - $75

Both have free shipping, but you you will have to check if thats free or if not what the shipping to your country is.

[Taquito]

Ok so a quick look on amazon.com for items from reputable manufacturers (only ones that offer multi year warranty - Asus, Msi, Gigabyte, Evga, Samsung) -

1. 4GB Asus GTX 1050Ti - $159
2. 250gb Samsung evo 2.5" SSD - $75

Both have free shipping, but you you will have to check if thats free or if not what the shipping to your country is.

 

 

What do you think about this one? https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-525GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B01IAGSD68/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480520897&sr=8-2&keywords=ssd+500

[lowenz]

 

 

What do you think about this one? https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-525GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B01IAGSD68/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480520897&sr=8-2&keywords=ssd+500

MX300 525 is on par with MX200 256 (but with more capacity). It is a decent/honest SSD, I can reassure you

Edited November 30, 2016 by lowenz

[Bikerdude]

+1

 

Its not much slower than the 500gb Samsung on sequential's and random's, but $50 cheaper -

 

- http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/crucial-mx300-ssd-review,review-33651-2.html

- https://www.custompcreview.com/reviews/crucial-mx300-750gb-ssd-review-micron-3d-tlc-nand/30782/

[Taquito]

Thanks guys for the help and patience. I'm waiting for my Christmas bonus to get both the card and the ssd. I'll keep you updated and will bother you some more for the installation.