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The first time I played Thief, it was on a video card without proper drivers. All of the walls were white, and for a short time, I thought it was supposed to look that way. 0_0


Haha same here. I had such a hard time running thief on my 133 Gateway.


I love this look. I get the same warm and fuzzy nostalgia feelings. Back then, you really had to use your imagination to fill in the blanks.

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The current option has it's ups and downs but it's still pretty neat IMHO.


You might wanna try reducing the normalmap downsize to 64 to reduce the simulated model detail.


seta image_downSizeBumpLimit "64"


The only other thing I see that might possibly degrade things on the geometry side, is r_slopVertex.

It's possible that extreme values there would reduce everything to triangular messes?

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I tried the slopvertex at 1, and things with lots of small detail like lamp posts, had some faces disappear completely, the AI still looked about the same.

EDIT: Maybe try forcing lowest LOD?


Yes, most AI use LOD now, so putting that to the lowest value might help. Won't do much to most models though.

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Can't forget about that guy who forced Doom 3 to run on 2 3DFX Voodoo 2 cards, equipment which was WAY below the baseline specs. The frame rate was pretty good, 30 or so, but obviously there was no lighting.


Everything was the same bright level. Imagine how tough TDM would be like that!

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There probably might be a way to tweak TDM to have simplified lights to give good performance.

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