The Builder Compound

[Springheel]

That roof is awesome and roof modules are something we badly need. Can I assume there's no objections to putting these in the core mod?

[peter_spy]

Absolutely, that would be awesome.

 

Btw. I hope working with those pieces is more or less intuitive, but I can make a tutorial video to make it more clear.

[VanishedOne]

Was textures/buildercompound/tiling/wood01 a deliberate removal? I was using that.

[peter_spy]

Yup, that was a placeholder for the roof and not super great material to begin with. You can use the one from previous version if you want to, but I'll be making a better one sometime in the future.

[Destined]

Great work on these models, they look very nice!

 

Kind of a tangent, but how would someone climb a banner in real life? There's literally nothing to hang on to.

Well, banners are made of cloth, so you can hold onto them quite well. The problem would be footholds, but I'd imagine that you could basically use a banner like you would use a rope and put your feet against the wall. My concern would be if the banner can really hold the weight of a person, but it is not uneralstic.

[zergrush]

I absolutely love the electric lamps in this set, and how they fit the verticality of the cathedral environment without looking out of place.

[peter_spy]

Version 0.42 will include stained glass window variations. Models and textures are done, I just need to make projection textures for lights.

 

[Tafferboy]

Will this get added to the mod for 2.08 as its own .pk4 do you think..?

[peter_spy]

It would be great at some point. It's still far from complete package though. Still, TDM team can take anything from that package and include it in the core mod, at any point in time.

[peter_spy]

 

Tweaks:

 

– Wall01 material has been revamped. It looks completely different now, so back up the previous version if you liked it.

 

New content:

 

– New window01 model with some height variation (240, 192, 144) along with projection textures (in lights/buildercompound/window01_p folder). Windows use self-illumination (emissive) texture in their material, but rather than having several "preset materials", mappers can simply adjust illumination strength themselves with shaderparm3 arg in the model. Value of 1 is the full strength of of emissive texture, while 0 turns it off. See models.mtr and example map for details.

Edited December 30, 2023 by peter_spy

[Tafferboy]

– Wall01 material has been revamped. It looks completely different now, so back up the previous version if you liked it.

 

Why not keep both and just version number the second version, eg Wall01, Wall02 etc. I say this because the new version looks completely flat compared to the old version.

Edited April 26, 2019 by Tafferboy

[peter_spy]

Mostly because keeping all the previous versions means increasing the pk4 file size quite substantially. Every material is three 2k textures, uncompressed normal included. And zip deflate method isn't really good at compressing it efficiently. New version is more in line with one of the reference photos I've been using as an inspiration: https://pl.pinterest.com/pin/301319031305294171/

Edited April 28, 2019 by Judith

[peter_spy]

I did a small correction in the package file, the reworked wall material had diffuse and specular maps in .tga format instead of .dds. That shaved a few MBs off the package and lowered the video memory impact of the new material.

[JackFarmer]

 

 

 

I like this one. Is this from a mission to be released later this year?

[peter_spy]

I plan to release a mission using these assets eventually, but I want to make a solid model foundation first. Not sure about a date yet. I'll keep sharing my stuff until get to the point where I'll have a location or two that I want to keep as a surprise to be released with the mission. Same goes for loot, although I'll start making things like new containers (coffers) and more generic loot rather soon. Right now I'm working on a door/doorframe set.

[grayman]

I plan to release a mission using these assets eventually ...

 

Do you want to release your mission before anyone else uses these assets in a mission?

 

If so, you need to make a statement to that effect. Lots of authors have introduced new stuff in their missions, and opened the door to others to use them afterward.

 

Gives you--as the creator--the "right of first use", which is perfectly acceptable.

[peter_spy]

That's very nice of you to ask, but no, feel free to use these assets and release your mission anytime you like

 

I chose incremental updates because making assets takes too much time. You'd have to wait months before I make a complete set, not to mention make a mission out of it. IMO there's no sense in just teasing this content and gating it off.

 

I'll have the plot-specific content used in my mission for the first time, while everything I post here can be used in your missions whenever you feel like it

[grayman]

Thanks!

[NeonsStyle]

Awesome module set. Thank you so much Peter. You've captured the feel perfectly. As someone who went to Catholic private school,

the look of this matches that background beautifully. It's almost nostalgic. lol

[Jedi_Wannabe]

How are the doors coming?

I can't wait to use this stuff once I'm decent at DR. I have a few locations in mind that will really benefit from this pack.

Do you have plans for any statues by chance?

[peter_spy]

A bit slower than I had planned, to be honest.

I just began unwrapping of the low poly model. After that it's a few days for baking stuff, and then a few more for texturing. Next friday will probably be too soon, more like a few days after that.

It's mostly due to the fact that I didn't find a solid reference for the door frame model, so I had to take a few things from different designs and see how they work together (and then take a few steps back). I had a pretty good reference for the door itself, so that was the easiest part. The high poly detail concept looks like this:

 

 

I also wanted to have a doorstep, but that was rather quick to mock up.

 

All in all, this is supposed to be rather generic, reusable door, so I don't want anything to stand out in particular. The frame and doorstep will be stone/plaster. The door is wood with metal hinges and handle. I'll probably reduce the material count to 2 to get better performance.

 

As for statues, I thought about that, mostly to have a go at human anatomy and characters, without all the rigging and stuff. But decoration meshes are usually a low priority on my list, with so many basic things still missing.

[Jedi_Wannabe]

Thats awesome. Slow and steady wins the race; all in due time.

[grayman]

I just started looking at this pk4.

 

I notice that the wall modules have--to me--odd widths.

 

To match DR's tiling granularity, widths like 64, 128, and 256 are extremely useful. (Springheel's architectural wall models provide 64/128 width models.) Copy/Paste along a long wall with these lengths is far easier than the lengths offered in the pk4.

 

Can we get support for 64/128/256?

[peter_spy]

The problem is, these dimensions don't work well with character height and character dimensions overall. Not sure if that was just Doom 3 character height, or a change introduced by TDM, but 80 wasn't a great idea. Something around 128 (as in Unreal) works much better with 32/64/128/256 etc.

 

Also, the width of 128 (minus the module depth on both sides) used by Spring's modules makes for a very narrow corridor. Player has almost no chance to get past an AI coming at him, even in complete darkness. This is something I didn't like, and wanted to give players some more advantage here. 192 is good for a wide corridor when used with something like wall panels, because their depth makes it slightly narrower, something over 160 units of "walking space". A narrow corridor will be 160 minus the depth of decoration stuff then. Typical 32/64/128 segmentation should be easier for actual locations, but not so much for corridors.

 

As for the snapping, all wall panels snap to each other easily using grid like 32 or 16, so there is no problem with that. You just start with corners and longest segments first, and then fill the gaps/adjust brushes as necessary.

[grayman]

After having built several missions using the 64/128 models, I'm very used to the building speed they allow.

 

I'll either limit myself to not using the wall modules, or I'll use DR's model scaling to get 64/128 versions. I tried the latter and the result looks fine.