Population of the Dark Mod Universe

[Kukutoo 28]

 

To cut right to it, Thank you all. Big fan of the darkmod and have been for a very long time. Have always found myself returning to play it once every other year. 
I love the universe and setting it is slowly creating and have a knack for obtaining notes on demography and other stats pertaining to the subject of population. So I felt it fair to the wonderful community that is the dark mod, I would put my passion to use and try to come up with the most realistic (in respects to it being a fantasy world) stats portraying the general population of the city of Bridgeport and its surrounding country side. Given if I have any more steam to keep going, all other areas outside of Bridgeport, referenced or played in will receive this treatment.

Now the steps I took for this information comes from history as well, most of the numbers used for the average household population are in fact borrowed from medieval documents. these historical records have given us a in depth average household size ranging between 4.41 to 8.47.

Taking this basic information, the first thing I would do in a level of the dark mod is know what part of town this is, whether the household size in a part of town like this will be higher or lower on the scale. in reference to the wonderfully named Plague ward, one could just assume that most of the homes have long since been abandoned. Second start counting the individual homes within the map itself, granting a small number of houses, apartments and manors. Lastly, getting a view at the skybox. This is where the majority of the houses counted comes from.  

Levels like "Volta and the Stone" and "Somewhere above the city" have images used in the out of reach zones that give ideas of massive rural areas splatted with hundreds of countless villages. While others such as "Business as usual" Have massive sprawling city interiors with industrial complexes, a cathedral for every block and 12 floor skyscrapers (that is skyscrapers for the bridge port population) 

One background showed up the most out of all of them, a nice image of some central European looking town. I just had a note to the side that stated about 3,144 homes were more or less present within that image, being looped around the level like six to about seven and a half times. 

To quickly state, these numbers are not cannon, this is just hopefully providing a solid base to reference. Sometimes it’s just nice to have a estimation present, and I hope that this one pays the respect due to the creators of the levels. I hope that I did not forget anything, or anyone's level that is worth a mention. 

With the grand door to door process of obtaining a proper household count as I could. I placed the data within a collection of charts that I am going to share with you today. 
Lords and ladies, commoners and merchants, may I present to you a work of several weekends of passion. Whala:  

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Sources used to gather this information provided:

Every Mod made so far by the DarkMod Community as of 11/2/2019 (in numbers about 125)

St.Germain-des-pres 

Abbot Eponymous

Daily life in the middle ages Paul B Newman

Manners customs and dress during the middle ages Paul Lacroix

Colin Mcevedy and Richard Jones atlas of world population history

 

[Kukutoo 28]

 

 

Edited November 2, 2019 by Kukutoo

[Kukutoo 28]

[Kukutoo 28]

[Kukutoo 28]

Final note about the city guards, private guards and lawlessness

[grayman 2968]

WOW!

That's a lot of detail.

Thanks.

You don't mention the Builders or their church count, though. Members of the Inventors' Guild? Future work?

[Kukutoo 28]

Honored to hear from you Grayman! Just finished the bank level for the first time a few days ago. Amazing work as always. 
Thanks for the input! did not think about the inventors guild would be interesting trying to come up with a number for them. I actually have a note for the Builders, its a little difficult due to them being all over the empire and not just Bridgeport. but for a sneak peak on what I have gathered is:

Acolytes/Monks: 5,311

Soldiers: 1,694

Priests: 107

Bishops: 15

Holy locations (churches/shrines/abbeys/Cathedrals) (need to clean this category for finished project) 605

I don't know If i will list named churches and locations. But I have a long list of all Builder locations named so far. Including Braeden Church, with the footnote it is no longer active. 

[Kukutoo 28]

I also am thinking of making a roll of arms (a list of all nobles given thus far in the dark mod) positioned on a rating of power and greatness. 

Also going to need to find a way or a thread dedicated to naming the Gaulic and Germanic Clans. As of right now between all the Pagan tribes, I am figuring that there is about 2,511,473 (based off of Roman numbers, I may shrink them due to further study) of them spread out over the vast lands of the north. Something like 42 different tribes. 

Edited November 3, 2019 by Kukutoo

[Bienie 417]

Fascinating topic! Seems like you have a real passion for demographics! This idea never really occurred to me, though I will say I've long wanted to have a map of Bridgeport showing the location of all the different wards and boroughs (I'm a bit of a map nerd).

I'm glad to see my "part of town", Brooksdale and Clifton Grove represented in your statistics. Though I think you overestimate the population by two orders of magnitude ^^. The skybox of the city around it are really meant to be other districts/wards some of which are as yet unnamed. I do wonder how you chose which names to include. I would say Langmiller's Ward from the Crucible of Omens mission should be in there, and I'm sure there are others named in other missions as well. Also isn't the Old Quarter and Stone Market from the Thief universe? That said, it's a really interesting population census that you've put together!

[Kukutoo 28]

10 hours ago, Bienie said:

...I've long wanted to have a map of Bridgeport showing the location of all the different wards and boroughs...

I'm glad to see my "part of town", Brooksdale and Clifton Grove represented in your statistics. Though I think you overestimate the population by two orders of magnitude ^^.

...I would say Langmiller's Ward from the Crucible of Omens mission should be in there, and I'm sure there are others named in other missions as well. Also isn't the Old Quarter and Stone Market from the Thief universe? That said, it's a really interesting population census that you've put together!

Thank you Bienie! Honored for your attention! I really loved your recent stuff! COS 2 was amazing work! 
Loved the rat hunting, always thought that would be a fun thing to do as a goal. 

Sorry, just had all these homes left over at the end and started putting them into wards that were left according to the quality of the homes. Thought that both Brooksdale and Cliften Grove were places that could be supporting communities. 

Aw, taff! I totally skipped over Langmillers ward somehow. Feel bad about that because Crucible of Omens is an amazing level. It seemed pretty big in the time you were outside, you think it would be fair if I took about 2/3 from Brooksdale/Clifton and shifted them into Langmillers?

If I missed any others I would not mind if someone will let me know. I was mostly intent on gathering names that represented large parts of town, there were mods where I thought about using a name given, but most of the times the name would only apply to a street or a square with a dozen or so shops around it. 

Both Stone market and Old quarter are from thief. I had that thought when seeing the names pop up in the mods I played. 

 

As for the world map,I feel it would be easier to achieve that goal once I have a solid foundation of Bridgeport and surrounding county. Got a screencap of the maps that have shown up in all levels, I plan to trace over it and make a blank template, maybe post it in that thread about the world with a list of all the names that appear on it. 

Thank you again for both the post, but mostly the levels you have made. 

[Kurshok 64]

This is just the human population, what about the Beastfolk population, or those citizens who have been raised from the dead by Necromancy? Even discounting zombies as mindless monsters, there also seems to be a fair amount of still somewhat self-aware ghosts, haunts, Necromancer liches, etc.

[Kukutoo 28]

Just human, I did include an estimation of undead in the Plague ward. Its in the displaced category in purple. Not sure how many beast folk there are. Maybe less then 10,000 due to the secluded and shadowed lives they live. If my memory is correct I think there has only been one mod with beastmen as of yet. I could be wrong though. 
Not sure on the number of ghosts, that may be a replay through of all the mods just to get a head count on ghosts, spirits and potential specters in bridgeport. That information would only really matter to builders, so I will include that note with the builder stats.

Thanks for the input. 

Edited November 4, 2019 by Kukutoo

[Bienie 417]

11 hours ago, Kukutoo said:

Thank you Bienie! Honored for your attention! I really loved your recent stuff! COS 2 was amazing work! 
Loved the rat hunting, always thought that would be a fun thing to do as a goal. 

Sorry, just had all these homes left over at the end and started putting them into wards that were left according to the quality of the homes. Thought that both Brooksdale and Cliften Grove were places that could be supporting communities. 

Aw, taff! I totally skipped over Langmillers ward somehow. Feel bad about that because Crucible of Omens is an amazing level. It seemed pretty big in the time you were outside, you think it would be fair if I took about 2/3 from Brooksdale/Clifton and shifted them into Langmillers?

If I missed any others I would not mind if someone will let me know. I was mostly intent on gathering names that represented large parts of town, there were mods where I thought about using a name given, but most of the times the name would only apply to a street or a square with a dozen or so shops around it. 

Both Stone market and Old quarter are from thief. I had that thought when seeing the names pop up in the mods I played. 

 

As for the world map,I feel it would be easier to achieve that goal once I have a solid foundation of Bridgeport and surrounding county. Got a screencap of the maps that have shown up in all levels, I plan to trace over it and make a blank template, maybe post it in that thread about the world with a list of all the names that appear on it. 

Thank you again for both the post, but mostly the levels you have made. 

Those are kind words indeed! I'm glad you liked the ratter challenge too haha. By the sound of it you will get a real kick out of CoS 3 that will be released in the spring.

The way I imagine it Clifton Grove is a fairly small, independently minded borough where people are a bit suspicious of outsiders due to the relative poverty surrounding them. I was thinking the population would be in the low thousands. Almost the entirety of Clifton is accessible in Pearls & Swine, maybe 85%. Brooksdale on the other hand is much larger and more cramped. CoS 2 only let's you explore I would say the northern 1/3 of it (the least ghetto part). So I would probably say the population here is well above 10k maybe even over 20k.  I would say that moving two thirds of your current estimate over to Langmiller's ward would be fair. That district has much taller buildings and and has a larger footprint. I might add that my other map, The Night of Reluctant Benefaction, takes place in East Farley Acres which is probably about the same size as Clifton when you combine it with West Farley Acres that has not been made yet, this area is east of Brooksdale which is hinted in a readable. In CoS 2 I also hint at a borough named Woodpine Cross which is north of Clifton and northwest of Brooksdale. I'm planning on setting a mission here after CoS 3, with it being probably in between the two in terms of size and class.

I can't think of any other named districts off the top of my head, though I suspect both Melan and Sotha, and maybe Goldwell have done so in some of their missions.

Good luck in your continued studies of the demographics of Bridgeport!

[Kukutoo 28]

Thanks Bieni! Look forward to future installments. Thanks for your input and information, very helpful to me. 
I will correct the charts when I get a fat moment. Work week has started.

 

Enjoy your week!