# Update to Lucky info

JerryDixon
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@Fluxxx @Kaz had put this together with some help from @Shteevie in an old thread. Would you be able to update as appropriate for new traits and new leader traits?

Here's the list of the traits affected by Lucky:

- Bullet Dodge

- Charging

- Concussion

- Dodge

- Incendiary

- Interrupt

- Silenced

- Stun Resistance

- Swift Strike

- Threat Reduction

For the Leader traits, it depends on the Hero, so Lucky affects only:

- Silent Shot (Daryl's)

- Good Out of Bad (Sasha's)

- Mysterious Ways (Gabriel's)

- Thinning The herd (Michonne's)

- Second Chance (Carl's)

- Bodyguard (Jerry's)

- Aim For The Head (Carol's)

- Mullet Time! (Eugene's)

- Defensive Charge (Morgan's)

NOTE: The Lucky trait doesn't trigger a trait that was already capped."

Here's the list of the traits affected by Lucky:

- Bullet Dodge

- Charging

- Concussion

- Dodge

- Incendiary

- Interrupt

- Silenced

- Stun Resistance

- Swift Strike

- Threat Reduction

For the Leader traits, it depends on the Hero, so Lucky affects only:

- Silent Shot (Daryl's)

- Good Out of Bad (Sasha's)

- Mysterious Ways (Gabriel's)

- Thinning The herd (Michonne's)

- Second Chance (Carl's)

- Bodyguard (Jerry's)

- Aim For The Head (Carol's)

- Mullet Time! (Eugene's)

- Defensive Charge (Morgan's)

NOTE: The Lucky trait doesn't trigger a trait that was already capped."

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2,137807985,309Once to buff the trait as a multiplier, and once as a direct crit chance ++?

Meaning if Aim for the Head was say, 30%, and lucky 20%, her trait would become 30 x 0.2 + 30 = 36, then 36 + 20 = 56% ?

Right?

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2,065No, it is the total crit chance that has the boost.

Accurate, sure-shot etc don't get boosted. They get added to your crit chance. Your crit chance gets boosted in the end.

108> @ATLAS-Z .

> No, it is the total crit chance that has the boost.

>

> Accurate, sure-shot etc don't get boosted. They get added to your crit chance. Your crit chance gets boosted in the end.

in fact, he correctly says that luck will first add a critical chance to her leadership skills and then give another 20% to her passive critical chance.

2,065However,

Many times it is said by NG staff thay lucky only increases chance traits, AND NOT to traits that only boost a chance already existing...

Carol's leader trait is not a chance by that account. It only adds a exact amount of percentages to the chance trait called critical chance.

@Fluxxx , do you mind helping us out here? There is a conflicting message in that has been said also in this topic?

2,973108> I can't deny her name is on the list. And as such than it should work like atlas described.

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> However,

> Many times it is said by NG staff thay lucky only increases chance traits, AND NOT to traits that only boost a chance already existing...

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> Carol's leader trait is not a chance by that account. It only adds a exact amount of percentages to the chance trait called critical chance.

>

>

> @Fluxxx , do you mind helping us out here? There is a conflicting message in that has been said also in this topic?

I think she should work with luck and add to her own chance

2,065Both times you neglected to mention any argument as to why you think this.

108> I think she should work with luck and add to her own chance

>

> Yes , you did say that first time around.

> Both times you neglected to mention any argument as to why you think this.

What should be the arguments when moderators approve the list? I think Carol as Gabrielle is an exception. And with you, I see a theory and not an argument.

1,083As for the other traits, Follow Through; Keeping the peace (HM); Prowl (SD); Ready for Action (RGG) are all affected by lucky.

So, referring back to Kaz's list from the other thread:

LuckyLucky increases the probability of triggering other probability traits.

- If you have 20% of Dodge on your armor and 20% of Lucky, the formula goes like this: Dodge + (Dodge x Lucky) = 20 + (20 x 0.2) = 24%

- If you have 20% of Dodge on your armor plus 20% of Dodge on your survivor and 20% of Lucky, then it'll be 40% of dodge and therefore the formula would be: 40 + (40 -x 0.2) = 48%

- If you have 20% of Dodge plus 20% of Lucky on your weapon and 20% of Lucky on your survivor, then it goes like this: 20 + (20 x 0.4) = 28%

Here's the list of the traits affected by Lucky:

- Bullet Dodge

- Charging

- Concussion

- Dodge

- Incendiary

- Interrupt

- Silenced

- Stun Resistance

- Swift Strike

- Threat Reduction

- Follow Through

NOTE: Lucky does increase a survivor's Critical Chance, but doesn't increase Accurate, Sure Shot or the Power Strike trait.

For the Leader traits, it depends on the Hero, so Lucky affects only:

- Silent Shot (Daryl's)

- Good Out of Bad (Sasha's)

- Mysterious Ways (Gabriel's)

- Thinning The herd (Michonne's)

- Second Chance (Carl's)

- Bodyguard (Jerry's)

- Aim For The Head (Carol's)

- Mullet Time! (Eugene's)

- Defensive Charge (Morgan's)

- Keeping The Peace

- Prowl

- Ready for Action

NOTE: The Lucky trait doesn't increase the chance of a trait that is already capped.

2,065The argument is that if NG staff claims luck only affect traits that are based on chance, then carol's leadertrait can not be affected by luck.

Carol's leadertrait will always be a percentage that is added to a chance-trait.

In other words, there is a 100% chance that Carol's leadertrait will increase your critical chance trait. So luck has nothing to do with it.

If you then say (twice if I might add): I think not. That's fine if you must. But you seem to have nothing ro add to a debate. It's just true because they say so seems to be your argument.

2,137Carol's trait is not affected by luck but luck adds up to the total CC including Carol's trait and any luck and badges and cc traits, they basically sum up.

Example : Carol's trait 30% cc.

Luck survivor trait : 20%.

Luck doesn't affect Carol's trait but total cc in this scenario would be 20 + 30 = 50%

Am I missing something?

5,309That's what I always assumed, but seeing her name on the list made me double-take and question?

Perhaps it's only there, as some have suggested, because lucky indirectly helps her trait? By also adding directly to crit chance?

This seems likely, but I had to ask.

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256563To increase or decrease are both affecting the trait. Swap out the word affect for working in tandem with / to enhance.

For someone reading this discussion, or / including a new player, they'd be left more confused than prior to their query.

I plan for the best and I plan for the worst - Dbl EdgeShow and prove, otherwise humble thyselfCatch me on LINE app - Line ID: dbledgedep108> Wait. Isn't it this way:

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> Carol's trait is not affected by luck but luck adds up to the total CC including Carol's trait and any luck and badges and cc traits, they basically sum up.

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> Example : Carol's trait 30% cc.

> Luck survivor trait : 20%.

> Luck doesn't affect Carol's trait but total cc in this scenario would be 20 + 30 = 50%

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> Am I missing something?

It is true, but Carol’s trait was on the list under the influence of luck, and this list has been revised several times. And only now they began to find out whether this error is or Carol may be an exception to the rule

2,137Luck does not affect luck as a multiplier but it does does as a sum.

Whenever trait is affected by luck, it's a multiplier and that's what we're used to.

Carol is a critical chance trait which is the only one that's a sum.

So technically we could say that yes it is affected by luck but then on the other hand it isn't directly because we only sum up. Then again when you sum up both that beans they somehow work together and are affected.

It depends on the each personal perspective I think.

4,428You’re welcome.

1,083So if (numbers arbitrary):

Base critical chance = 10%

Carol's trait = 30%

Luck = 20%

then it works as follows:

(10+30)*1.2 = 48(%)

Hope that clarifies it. I know it's confusing, took me a while 😅

2,065It throws the games own logic out the window, but at least it is clarified.

563I.e. 20% CC badge + 20%Lucky =40%CC

or

20% CC badge multiplied by 20% Lucky = 24%CC

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> ?

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> Meaning if Aim for the Head was say, 30%, and lucky 20%, her trait would become 30 x 0.2 + 30 = 36, then 36 + 20 = 56% ?

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Lucky would still also add to crit chance on its own

Edit... Plus base factored in

> Meaning if Aim for the Head was say, 30%, and lucky 20%, her trait would become

( base 10 + 30 ) x 0.2 = 48 + 20 = 68%

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1,301> I think it's just to Carol's trait, like my original post?

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> > @ATLAS-Z said:

> > ?

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> > Meaning if Aim for the Head was say, 30%, and lucky 20%, her trait would become 30 x 0.2 + 30 = 36, then 36 + 20 = 56% ?

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> Lucky would still also add to crit chance on its own

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> Edit... Plus base factored in

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> > Meaning if Aim for the Head was say, 30%, and lucky 20%, her trait would become

> ( base 10 + 30 ) x 0.2 = 48 + 20 = 68%

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Does this mean if you put a 25% critical chance badge on her that she’d be hitting crits 93% of the time? If Carol has lucky trait and weapon also would she be 100%??

3,716How most traits work: 40% chance of trait activating * 20% lucky = 48% chance of triggering

How the community understood critical chance working: 40% chance of activation + 20% lucky = 60% chance of triggering

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3885,309> >

> Does this mean if you put a 25% critical chance badge on her that she’d be hitting crits 93% of the time? If Carol has lucky trait and weapon also would she be 100%??

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I would say yes, but assuming is still capped at 90%

> @JayZ said:

> How the community understood critical chance working: 40% chance of activation + 20% lucky = 60% chance of triggering

I believe what @Fluxxx is saying that this is still true, but that Carol's trait gets a little extra on top, with a multiplier.

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