[Resolved] Setting for mantle tilt view amount

[Daft Mugi]

One thing that was uncomfortable for me when I started playing The Dark Mod was how much the view tilted during a mantle. This is similar to the amount of head bob.

For those who are sensitive to motions like that as well, I've attached a patch.

I hope it or a variation of it will be accepted into the main The Dark Mod codebase, since it'll help those players.

The new cvar "pm_mantle_tilt_mod" is a value between 0.0 and 1.0. The default is 1.0, which means no change from the traditional tilt view angle. A value of 0.0 is no tilt. I personally prefer 0.1, which tilts the view only 10% of the traditional amount.

idCVar cv_pm_mantle_tilt_mod(
  "pm_mantle_tilt_mod",
  "1.0",
  CVAR_GAME | CVAR_FLOAT | CVAR_ARCHIVE,
  "The multiplier applied to the tilt view angle during a mantle",
  0.0f, 1.0f
);

(Patch based on r10036.)

Edit

The finalized version present in TDM 2.11.

"pm_mantle_roll_mod"  default:"1.0"                                                              
The multiplier applied to the roll view angle during a mantle

mantle-tilt-mod-v1-r10036.diff

Edited February 5, 2023 by Daft Mugi
add note about pm_mantle_roll_mod

[stgatilov]

I wonder if we should just have one mega-var, which would disable all kind of camera deviations?
Maybe even attach it to a checkbox in main menu gameplay settings...

[Daft Mugi]

I have to admit. I had the same thought after I added yet another cvar.

I'd keep the cvars, so there's always that fine grained option.

But, yeah, having something really simple in the menu would likely be welcomed.

Maybe something like: [no motion] [slight motion] [normal]
Or: [reduced motion] [normal]

Shortly after I started playing The Dark Mod, I reduced the head bob and tilt view angle. Otherwise, it's been pretty great!

[stgatilov]

Committed the change as svn rev 10042.

[Daft Mugi]

Thank you!

I hope players benefit from that cvar.

[Daft Mugi]

@stgatilov After discussing `pm_bobroll` and seeing a TDM player on Discord write "mantling roll", I wonder if a better cvar name for this would be `pm_mantle_roll_mod` to match other `pm_*` cvars.

Naming is hard...

[Daft Mugi]

Hi @stgatilov (cc @nbohr1more)

After some more thought, I really do think "pm_mantle_roll_mod" is a better cvar name, because it matches "pm_bobroll" and other "pm_*" naming. If someone learns about "pm_bobroll" and changes it for head bobbing, they may also search for other "roll" cvars. This will make it easier for them to find "pm_mantle_roll_mod".

I've attached a patch, making it easy to rename the cvar before 2.11 is released.

Thank you!

rename-mantle-tilt-to-roll-v1-r10079.diff

[stgatilov]

Committed the rename in svn rev 10080.

[Daft Mugi]

Thank you!

[chakkman]

On 7/25/2022 at 8:18 AM, stgatilov said:

I wonder if we should just have one mega-var, which would disable all kind of camera deviations?
Maybe even attach it to a checkbox in main menu gameplay settings...

So, if I understand this right, this would be an optional setting which is not activated by default, right?

I like the mantling the way it is.

[Daft Mugi]

5 hours ago, chakkman said:

So, if I understand this right, this would be an optional setting which is not activated by default, right?

I like the mantling the way it is.

Yes, optional. There is no change unless you change the "pm_mantle_roll_mod" cvar.

By default, it is set to 1.0, which means no change.

1.0 is 100% the same.
0.5 is 50% of the original.
0.1 is 10% of the original.