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Radeon Software 22.8.1 -> massive performance hindrance somewhere (AMD has modified something in the driver this time too).

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There's no specif option - resolution apart - having influence on this 😐

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I replugged cable to my AMD RX 550, and I can definitely reproduce the same issue. I have severe performance degradation (like 3x or 4x) in New Job on all shadows except for hard stencil. And t

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It seems that when I pass vec2[150] to a function, AMD compiler honestly generates copying instructions 🤔 Copying 1.2 KB of data on every fragment is quite slow...

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2.11 beta 01 is currently in the installer list. The thread about it will be out soon but you can test it now. That said, we need to bisect your performance problem by having you test older build

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It's ALWAYS off 😐

Re-generated the cfg, abysmal performance remains.

 

TDM-specific issue, RBDoom3 (OpenGL) has no problem at all......

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Hmm...

Is Uncapped FPS enabled ?

The standard Doom 3 FPS cap ( com_fixedTic 0 ) is known to steal a ton of performance in the latest drivers.

How does the Dhewm3 Doom 3 port perform ?

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2 hours ago, nbohr1more said:

Hmm...

Is Uncapped FPS enabled ?

The standard Doom 3 FPS cap ( com_fixedTic 0 ) is known to steal a ton of performance in the latest drivers.

How does the Dhewm3 Doom 3 port perform ?

Uncapped (set to 80). But that's not the culprit (already tested).

RBDoom3 (not Dhewm): https://github.com/RobertBeckebans/RBDOOM-3-BFG

Perfectly flat 120 FPS.

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13 minutes ago, AluminumHaste said:

What performance do you get in the menu just after game load?

That's weird. I just updated SVN and built binaries from source. Now performance dropped 100+ FPS

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No problem in the menu!

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Still having the same problem, RX 570 with 22.9.1 (yesterday) drivers, REALLY low framerate (15 FPS).

No problem in the menus

The-Dark-Modx64-2022-09-22-01-54-43-802.

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6 hours ago, lowenz said:

Still having the same problem, RX 570 with 22.9.1 (yesterday) drivers, REALLY low framerate (15 FPS).

No problem in the menus

The-Dark-Modx64-2022-09-22-01-54-43-802.

Darkmod.cfg ?

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1 hour ago, lowenz said:

Pretty standard: https://pastebin.com/24PcxhFe

Thanks!

 

Do either:

seta r_shadowMapSinglePass "1"

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setting Stencil Shadows in the GUI

improve performance at all ?

 

How about toggling:

r_softShadowsMipmaps "0"

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I think we need to fix the visibility of this since the CVAR's don't print to darkmod.cfg but also try disable the BVH optimizations:

  • r_modelBvhLightTris 0
  • r_modelBvhShadows 0

 

 

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Of course stencil improves, from 15 to 19 as expected 😛

And single pass doesn't make any difference.

 

No, the problem is somewhere else (related to the new OpenGL Radeon drivers)

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41 minutes ago, nbohr1more said:

@lowenz

I think we need to fix the visibility of this since the CVAR's don't print to darkmod.cfg but also try disable the BVH optimizations:

  • r_modelBvhLightTris 0
  • r_modelBvhShadows 0

No difference, but I see they reset to their default values (3 / 1) every restart.

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Also not getting the greatest FPS here:

 

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Like, what in the world is in this scene that requires 100% GPU usage at 2.2Ghz and only gets 173FPS???

 

Looking at this corner can't even max to 300 fps.

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Intel 12700K

Radeon 6800XT

I always assumed I'd taste like boot leather.

 

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Does FPS jump up dramatically if SSAO and \ or Soft Shadows are disabled... or does it stay relatively low?

Does FPS scale depending on your Render Scale value or does it remain low no matter how low you set the render scaling or resolution?

Does FPS improve dramatically if you issue "killmonsters" in the console ?

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Stable low, the only thing that matters is the resolution.

I'll test "killmonsters".

EDIT: it doesn't affect

 

In other OpenGL games no issue at all: Wo-B-2022-10-04-23-06-39-741.jpg

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On 10/4/2022 at 10:25 PM, lowenz said:

New drivers set, same problem

The-Dark-Modx64-2022-10-04-22-18-50-322.

Same problem with the new build BUT here's the catch:

With MESA OpenGL->D3D12 ( https://github.com/pal1000/mesa-dist-win/releases/tag/22.3.0-rc1 ) TDM works like a charm!

OpenGL (RX 570 RS 22.10.2 waiting for the november release) - can't go over 15 FPS

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MESA OGL->D3D12 - 70 FPS

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Please, fix! The OGL driver is good enough, it's something in the engine

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3 hours ago, lowenz said:

Same problem with the new build BUT here's the catch:

With MESA OpenGL->D3D12 ( https://github.com/pal1000/mesa-dist-win/releases/tag/22.3.0-rc1 ) TDM works like a charm!

OpenGL (RX 570 RS 22.10.2 waiting for the november release) - can't go over 15 FPS

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MESA OGL->D3D12 - 70 FPS

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Please, fix! The OGL driver is good enough, it's something in the engine

Would you be willing to capture a tracy timeline?

https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Tracy:_timeline_profiler

Probably a good idea to get a condump and darkmod.cfg too (just for the sake of consistency).

There might be new OpenGL errors (etc).

https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Reporting_Problem

@stgatilov do you suppose all those texture bind noise errors that show when r_debugGLSL is enabled might be at fault here?

Maybe AMD penalizes those errors more?

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