Yet Another Mod Or A Real-size Game?

[dee_zulv]

Abut how big is this mod going to be? Will it be at least as big as Thief 2?

 

What are the chances of seeing it by 2007 ?

 

What will the name of the main taffer be?

 

 

Anyway, if you can pull of a game that isn't called Thief, but does the job just right, my hat's off to you guys! 'Till now, as I saw things, in this world THERE ARE GAMES... AND THERE IS THIEF!

[sparhawk]

Currently the installation size is about 300MB. Compressed this is a 70MB download (RAR highest compression). Of course we only started so we currently have a small part of what it will be.

[Domarius]

Damn Targa files.

[Fingernail]

It'll be bigger than T2, definitely. It *might* end up bigger than T3, but that's not a promise. With documentation and everything, it's possible.

[sparhawk]

We are not going for size anyway. The major cireterion is: Is it good or even better?

[Kristus]

Damn Targa files.

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You know, you don't HAVE to use Targa files. Doom3 support other formats aswell.

[Domarius]

Well I wish our modelers and mappers realised this.

[SneaksieDave]

Muh? One of the mappers is the one leading the bitching about it.

 

*raises hand*

[Fingernail]

TGAs are best in terms of quality and compression. They offer the best quality at a reasonable size.

 

JPGs are no way to store normalmap information anyhow.

[Kristus]

Since Targas whole point of existance is to be a Truecolor NONcompressed format, they are not good for compression. The quality is of course superior. But the size is huge.

[Domarius]

Oh well... as long as there is a good technical reason (normal maps), I won't complain.

 

But PNGs are not lossy compression - their compression doesn't remove anything at all. Does Doom 3 support PNGs?

[Fingernail]

TGAs use RLE compression which is lossless and as good as it gets for TGAs. So to say they don't compress at all is misleading.

[Domarius]

Yes but PNGs seem to compress better. I'm under the impression that TGAs have compression but it is very very very light.

[Fingernail]

It's contexual, some images will compress better than others. Obviously an image of the same colour all over would compress the best.

 

I don't think D3 even supports PNG files(?).

[Domarius]

Okay then my argument is pointless. But individual images compress differently, but PNGs pretty much always compress better than TGA because the compression algorithm is better. Like comparing the latest WinRar to the first DOS version of PKUNZIP.EXE

[Fingernail]

Yeah, but some compression algorithms are more suited to certain types of textures than others; ie. it's best to pick one that doesn't look really bad with really high detailed images or what have you.

 

ANYWAY, pointless argument (at least about PNG files).

[cobra6]

My only concern for this mod is that you guys dont put in too many undead and weird spider creatures, which really meanth a downblow for Thief 1

 

Cobra 6

[oDDity]

I'm working on weird spider creatures as we speak.

[FishFace]

If they scare the crap out of me, pile 'em on. I stopped playing TMA for a while because I was scared of the spidey in Receiving!

 

If it's anything like the quality of the revenant, is disgusting and is backed up by suitable sounds... Yum.

[cobra6]

Too bad, would love to see more stealing action from people, like in Thief3. Dont know why most people said Thief3 sucked.

 

I thought it was rather good actually..

 

Cobra 6

[New Horizon]

Too bad, would love to see more stealing action from people, like in Thief3. Dont know why most people said Thief3 sucked.

 

I'm not sure why that is too bad. This is a toolset first and foremost. FM authors will be able to make missions that contain strictly people, spiders, undead or an even handed mixture of everything. Depends what they want to do.

 

I thought it was rather good actually..

 

Cobra 6

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It was "good" but in my opinion, that's about it. The game truly didn't live up to its predecessors. I appreciate the effort that went into trying to make T3 great but I don't appreciate the limits placed on the developers by having to make a simultaneous PC/Console release. It should have been PC first, that is where the series was born.