Player Lamp

[Frost_Salamander]

2 minutes ago, snatcher said:

You maintain it for FMs and I offer it for general use. The more people toying with the lamp the more feedback / support we may get.

I noticed the lens part of the model is transparent. We need a modeler.

I was going to deal with that just by adding a new skin...

[HMart]

53 minutes ago, snatcher said:

You maintain it for FMs and I offer it for general use. The more people toying with the lamp the more feedback / support we may get.

I noticed the lens part of the model is transparent. We need a modeler.

Link the model here and I will solve that, is easy (famous last words.... ).

To me no need to link the material or textures just the raw model. Btw is the model lwo? I can only open .lwo models in Modo my tool of choice.

[Frost_Salamander]

@HMart You can find it here (under models/darkmod/weapons): https://github.com/thedarkmodcommunity/mod-handheld-lamp

direct link: https://github.com/thedarkmodcommunity/mod-handheld-lamp/blob/main/models/darkmod/weapons/mod_playerlamp_model.lwo

[HMart]

Was this model made in DR? The uvmap is all over the place, meaning it falls outside the 0 1 area. 

But that is not the problem, the problem is that It add a missing face in the back of the lamp thing, so you could see to the outside thought it.  I put a face there that should solve the problem.

mod_playerlamp_model.lwo

Edited May 15 by HMart

[snatcher]

23 minutes ago, HMart said:

Was this model made in DR? The uvmap is all over the place, meaning it falls outside the 0 1 area.

No idea.

23 minutes ago, HMart said:

But that is not the problem, the problem is that It add a missing face in the back of the lamp thing, so you could see to the outside thought it.  I put a face there that should solve the problem.

No joy

[snatcher]

Perhaps we just have to replace this material with something less fancy.

textures/darkmod/glass/dirty_yellow_warp     // milky yellow transparent glass
{
	// Written by Tels, mainly based on 
	// http://www.iddevnet.com/doom3/materials.php

	noSelfShadow
	noshadows
	twoSided
	translucent
	forceoverlays
	sort decal
	glass
	qer_editorimage	textures/darkmod/glass/dirty_yellow_warp_ed

	description "A dirty, yellow, reflecting, translucent material suited for glass panes"

        // this block makes the glass distort what you see through it
        // one unwanted side-effect is that this effect does not stack
	// and distorbs objects in front of the glass, too
        {
                vertexProgram heatHazeWithDepth.vfp
                vertexParm  0  0 , 0  // texture scrolling
                vertexParm  1  .8  // magnitude of the distortion

                fragmentProgram heatHazeWithDepth.vfp
                fragmentMap 0  _currentRender
                fragmentMap 1  textures/sfx/vp1 // the normal map for distortion
                fragmentMap 2 _currentDepth
        }
	// this stage sets up the alpha mask (it doesnt render anything)
	{
		maskcolor				
		map makealpha(textures/glass/glass1)
	}
	// now use the alpha mask to add some fake reflections
	{
		blend gl_dst_alpha, gl_one
		maskalpha
		cubeMap env/gen2
		// tone down the reflection a bit and make it yellow
		red     Parm0 * 0.2
		green   Parm1 * 0.2
		blue    Parm2 * 0.05
		texgen  reflect
	}
	// add our texture on top
	{
		blend   gl_dst_alpha, gl_one
		map	textures/darkmod/glass/crystal_milky
		red     Parm0 * 0.5
		green   Parm1 * 0.5
		blue    Parm2 * 0.2
	}

	// This is the code required for frob highlighting this texture
	frobstage_texture textures/darkmod/glass/crystal_milky 0.15 0.40
}

I could try with different materials myself if the model was in ASE (or any other open) format.

[HMart]

Then the problem is also the material, yes.

I would assign a opaque dark material, to the inside faces of the light housing, minus the glass front, so they don't blend with the background.

[snatcher]

I took your version of the model @HMart and managed to export it from DarkRadiant in ASE format and I changed the texture. I don't know about collisions or anything about models and I hardly know what I am doing but it looks a little better now, imho. v0.3 at the bottom.

Console command to spawn the lantern:

spawn mod:weapon_playerlamp

z_handheld_lamp_v0.3.pk4

[Goldwell]

On 5/13/2023 at 7:45 PM, snatcher said:

Better sounds (it currently uses Blackjack sounds)

 

Lantern sheath

 

Lantern unsheath

[snatcher]

Thanks, @Goldwell!

The animations are so fast that your sounds are way too long but your samples are so rich that I found a nice texture that I think gives the lamp some personality. Hope you like the result. v0.4 at the bottom.

Console command to spawn the lantern:

spawn mod:weapon_playerlamp

z_handheld_lamp_v0.4.pk4

[wesp5]

I just stumbled upon this thread (because I saw that snatcher is involved which is always exciting ) but I wonder why we would want a lamp that can not be used at the same time as a weapon? This brings back memories of the stupid Doom 3 flashlight which did the same thing just for jumpscares. So if you really want to show a visible lamp, can't the player hold it in his left hand while the right one is still free at least for blackjack, sword and to pick up items?

Edited June 19 by wesp5

[snatcher]

23 hours ago, wesp5 said:

[...] I wonder why we would want a lamp that can not be used at the same time as a weapon? This brings back memories of the stupid Doom 3 flashlight which did the same thing just for jumpscares. So if you really want to show a visible lamp, can't the player hold it in his left hand while the right one is still free at least for blackjack, sword and to pick up items?

It's a ton of work but sure, why not. In the meantime, think of Amnesia-like horror missions... The best example we have is Marsh of Rahena by @ERH+

Which one works best for you? The more options the better.

[nbohr1more]

Arguably, the objection to the flashlight in Doom3 was that it prevented playing the game in a run n' gun style that old Doom players craved. Doom 3 survival horror purists have rebuked both the flashlight mod and BFG exactly because removing the toggle decreases the tension and makes the game more confrontational rather than stealthy. TDM also prefers stealth but we usually rely on other mechanics to enforce it. Still, this is a neat option to increase the scare factor.