System Shock Remake

[gokudo]

Hi all,

So it's finally been released about 7 years after I've backed it....

My impression is that the textures and graphics even tweaked up to the max look terrible. It's very small compared to the average game at under 4gbs which seems to have been made by sacrificing texture/graphic quality. I really can't bring myself to play it due to this. Am I being too judgemental or am I within my rights? 

 

[kano]

Of course you're free to not play it if you don't want to. Personally, I would have given it the Resident Evil remake treatment; with graphics that would absolutely blow the mind, new areas to explore, surprises and changes for people who think they already know the game just because they played the original one five times over, etc.

 

What we got here is not really that, and yeah, that's disappointing. But I don't think these people were working with a big budget.

 

Also I like the way Doom 3 fleshed out the story and the environments, with those little videos playing on the wall which were there to explain the purpose of each location. I would have also done something similar to that in this remake; because it makes the game world feel more "real" and "lived in". Of course most people went into Doom 3 just wanting another action-packed Doom experience with minimal story or none at all, but I feel that it would have been more appreciated here.

[chakkman]

@gokudo Something wrong with the original thread? 

 

[chakkman]

2 hours ago, gokudo said:

My impression is that the textures and graphics even tweaked up to the max look terrible. It's very small compared to the average game at under 4gbs which seems to have been made by sacrificing texture/graphic quality. 

It wasn't a "sacrifice", it was a deliberate decision. People wanted the game to be as close as possible to the original, including pixelated graphics.  

If you ask me, the former version based on the Unity engine looked and felt better. But, hey... I guess I'm not the right person to judge that, as I never played the original, and always found that the art style of System Shock 2 is much better anyway.

This also illustrates the issue with community funded games: Too many cooks spoil the broth. In game design, you need freedom, not thousands of people who want you to do this and this and that.

Just take a look at the Steam forums and see how all those wimps complain again about everything. Hopeless.

Edited June 2, 2023 by chakkman

[kano]

On the bright side this is probably the one and only game of 2023 that RTX4060TI users can run at anything above 1080p with high quality settings. Hahaha... zing.

[chakkman]

2 hours ago, kano said:

On the bright side this is probably the one and only game of 2023 that RTX4060TI users can run at anything above 1080p with high quality settings. Hahaha... zing.

?

I don't know where you got that from, but, even my RTX 3060 Ti, which is slower than the 4060 Ti, can run many more current games at high quality in 1080p, even some up to 144 Hz.

Of course, some are so ridiculously demanding that not even a 4090 can run them at max quality with a proper frame rate.

You might want to read some tests with benchmarks on the RTX 4060 Ti: https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Geforce-RTX-4060-Ti-8GB-Grafikkarte-279648/Tests/Release-Review-Benchmark-Specs-Preis-1419889/3/

Edited June 2, 2023 by chakkman

[gokudo]

7 hours ago, chakkman said:

@gokudo Something wrong with the original thread? 

 

Other than the fact that I wasn't aware of its existence before posting, absolutely not. Wasn't aware I was committing a capital offence! Sometimes I just feel the need to do things spontaneously.

[chakkman]

20 minutes ago, gokudo said:

Other than the fact that I wasn't aware of its existence before posting, absolutely not. Wasn't aware I was committing a capital offence!

Well, maybe we can skip the public flogging this time.  

Just wanted to say that there already is a System Shock Remake thread.

Having a lot of fun playing it at the moment, by the way. It gets better and better. I was a tad underwhelmed by the first level (which I already knew from the demo) for some reason, but, the second level suited me much more.

[kano]

Biggest disappointment so far is the melee combat. As others have said, it's hard to tell when you score a hit. There really is no "thwack" sound, be it a fleshy one when fighting mutants, or a metallic one when fighting bots, and they don't recoil.

 

This is one aspect that id games always got right. You always knew when you scored a hit on their monsters.