Garbage Performance and Broken AA (1660 Super)

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3 hours ago, Wellingtoncrab said:

@OnlyTaffingCowardsHideLook dude - we have next to no rules here but that doesn’t mean you get to do our act however you want “because internet”.

I think you have established you don’t have much to elaborate on in terms of your feedback about the game not running as well as you would like at 4k. So it follows you do not need to argue or pick fights about it. Unless that is the actual point.

There is appeal in working within the limitations of older technology that not everyone understands. The “trash” as you put it, represents an opportunity for us to express something we might otherwise not be able to. 

So you are free to criticize it, but you don’t need to denigrate it or our members while doing so. Even if no one stops you, it’s not welcome here.

 

Alright settle down, I don't pick fights for no reason generally.

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I've been testing out the Lossless scaling app as well, and I have to say it's providing excellent results scaling 1440p to 4k, so that may be another route for people who don't have access to DLDSR.

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3 hours ago, chakkman said:

Actually, I was rather facepalming than laughing.

But, I guess it could be a good learning effect, which should teach you that you should first check your stuff, before blaming anyone else's work for problems on your end.

Well, technically the issue is that it's built on opengl... otherwise reshade would run a lot better on modern apis.

[chakkman]

And again, you're shifting the blame. Obviously, Reshade doesn't perform very well with OpenGL.

Stop using that crap, and play TDM without such layers which lower performance.

Edited July 12, 2025 by chakkman

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2 hours ago, chakkman said:

And again, you're shifting the blame. Obviously, Reshade doesn't perform very well with OpenGL.

Stop using that crap, and play TDM without such layers which lower performance.

"That crap" has far more up to date lighting and AA shaders... so yeah...

[stgatilov]

I wonder why the discussion lasts so long

Yes, indeed there are several graphical settings which require tons of performance but don't work well enough. I think we are aware of it, but it won't change overnight unfortunately.

If you have performance problems, use stencil shadows, avoid making them too soft, avoid too much antialiasing... Is it all, or did I forget anything? In general, tooltips in the settings tend to note which settings are overly taxing for performance.

Comparing antialiasing to modern games is totally unfair, because modern games stopped using multisampling almost completely. They just use TAA without increasing memory bandwidth that much, of course it is faster. I'm not even talking about all that upscale/framegen.

[stgatilov]

And by the way, if you still hope to "max the game".
Open game console, type "r_fboResolution 3" and hit enter.
Congratulations! Now you need 9x more performance to maintain the same FPS.

There is always some way to waste your GPU, be it 1050 or 4090.
And TDM is not a big single-release commercial game which can test everything on many PC configurations and only provide "safe" options to the players.

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22 hours ago, stgatilov said:

I wonder why the discussion lasts so long

Yes, indeed there are several graphical settings which require tons of performance but don't work well enough. I think we are aware of it, but it won't change overnight unfortunately.

If you have performance problems, use stencil shadows, avoid making them too soft, avoid too much antialiasing... Is it all, or did I forget anything? In general, tooltips in the settings tend to note which settings are overly taxing for performance.

Comparing antialiasing to modern games is totally unfair, because modern games stopped using multisampling almost completely. They just use TAA without increasing memory bandwidth that much, of course it is faster. I'm not even talking about all that upscale/framegen.

Yeah TAA would be a good option to have here, but I don't think it's possible to hack that in, whereas SMAA and DLAA are totally viable.
Also my cpu is so bad Stencil shadows run worse on low than shadow maps on medium...
Maybe it's an AMD problem or an l3 cache problem, either way the Ryzen 4500 is trash.

Edited July 14, 2025 by OnlyTaffingCowardsHide

[datiswous]

On 7/13/2025 at 9:20 PM, stgatilov said:

Open game console, type "r_fboResolution 3" and hit enter.

Woooow, r_fboResolution 7 gives me a very nice slideshow (don't try this at home). Also, r_fboResolution 0.15 gives a nice retro look and you can max out all the other graphic options.

Edit: Sorry for necroposting this thread.

Edited December 3, 2025 by datiswous