Rotating Held Objects

[CountMorillonite]

I can no longer rotate held objects and that's probably because I customized the key strokes needed to perform that task. Problem is, there is nothing under Settings (that I can find) that will allow me to redefine the keystrokes to perform that function. 

So I guess the question is...How do you customize the keystrokes to rotate held objects ? 

[sullium]

The binding to rotate objects is Controls -> Actions -> Parry/Manipulate.

I forget if it does anything else besides that and parrying, if not then maybe it should be renamed to "Parry/Rotate Object" or something like that so it's less ambiguous.

[wesp5]

I believe that Manipulate is supposed to stand for Rotate.

[sullium]

2 hours ago, wesp5 said:

I believe that Manipulate is supposed to stand for Rotate.

Yes but it's a little vague. When I came back to the game from a break, I initially thought it might be for secondary frob-esque actions like snuffing candles. Of course, snuffing candles is actually an extra function of "Use Inv Item" but that's not obvious from reading either so it took a bit of testing/deduction to figure out what does what.

[CountMorillonite]

Thank you all for the help !

I went to "parry/manipulate" and saw that the keystroke was no longer defined. I had customized  ctrl  for   creeping. 

There is nothing wrong with manipulate as a legitimate word. I was just not clear-headed at the time, and the "parry" threw me off.

Sullium - I LOVE frobesque as a word. I intend to use it in casual conversation to make myself appear smart. Which, if asked,  would also act as a segue to "push" Thief as a game to play.

[datiswous]

On 9/2/2025 at 12:00 PM, wesp5 said:

I believe that Manipulate is supposed to stand for Rotate.

It's more than rotate. You can also move the thing forward/backward with scrollwheel.

Sorry I was wrong. You can always move it via scrollwheel, but with manipulate button you can rotate.

Edited September 3, 2025 by datiswous

[sullium]

12 minutes ago, datiswous said:

It's more than rotate. You can also move the thing forward/backward with scrollwheel.

That's actually done with the Next/Prev Inventory Item binds, not the Parry/Manipulate bind (unless I'm missing some other way to use that).

[datiswous]

On 9/2/2025 at 5:14 PM, sullium said:

That's actually done with the Next/Prev Inventory Item binds

Indeed, I just found out, but also with scrollwheel.

[CountMorillonite]

I just realized I don't have to use the scrollwheel  (which I find annoying)  to rotate a picked up item. I use the scrollwheel to move it forward and back but to rotate all I have to do is move the mouse around freely. Scrollwheel not involved. That makes it so much easier. Now I don't have to loathe those moments where I have to return things to their exact position.

[Zerush]

6 hours ago, CountMorillonite said:

I just realized I don't have to use the scrollwheel  (which I find annoying)  to rotate a picked up item. I use the scrollwheel to move it forward and back but to rotate all I have to do is move the mouse around freely. Scrollwheel not involved. That makes it so much easier. Now I don't have to loathe those moments where I have to return things to their exact position.

Yes, moving the mouse while pushin the Z key (by default) to manipulate and rotate objects. See training mission of Manipulating objects.

[datiswous]

15 hours ago, Zerush said:

Z key (by default)

I think it's Z-key or Mouse3, which is the middle mouse button.

[Zerush]

10 hours ago, datiswous said:

I think it's Z-key or Mouse3, which is the middle mouse button.

Well, depends on the Keysetting you use, my middle buton has other functions-