Grouping issue

[mr.Doom]

Hi,

I'm mainly using dark radiant for Doom 3 mapping, and it's working great, however sometimes just at random it would seem like the DR-feature for grouping adds (right click group) another brush or entity into the group. Not sure what triggers it, but I can come back to something, and the origin is suddenly half across the map because something else is included. So I'm running the risk of mistakenly removing or moving something without even noticing it, making me stare more at the origin than before as soon as I select something. At first, I was just sure I was the cause of it, like forgetting to unselect something, but it happens occasionally and now when I moved to a new computer it seems like the grouping is completely messed up. I made sure to move the entire dir of files where the .map file is, but I don't know, most groupings now are half done or include things half across the map.

I'm just curious if anyone else uses this feature extensively and have encountered or experienced anything similar? Just an observation.

[Frost_Salamander]

That kind of sounds like the issue described here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/23024-strange-behaviour-in-darkradiant-certain-map-objects-untethered-from-vertex-origin/

A couple of us have experienced it but we're not sure what's causing it.  In your case do the origins end up at 0,0,0?

[mr.Doom]

2 hours ago, Frost_Salamander said:

That kind of sounds like the issue described here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/23024-strange-behaviour-in-darkradiant-certain-map-objects-untethered-from-vertex-origin/

A couple of us have experienced it but we're not sure what's causing it.  In your case do the origins end up at 0,0,0?

Thankfully, It doesn't sound like the same issue because that seems way worse as the actual objects/brushes move around. Mine haven't moved, at least from what I can tell, it is just the grouping that is messed up with additional elements that might have been added or removed to the group. I've never really seen it happen in real-time, it is more that I come back to something I previously grouped and now something else is included half across the map, and if I miss spotting it, then it might have unfortunate consequences as I might delete or move something unintentionally.

[Frost_Salamander]

1 hour ago, mr.Doom said:

Thankfully, It doesn't sound like the same issue because that seems way worse as the actual objects/brushes move around. Mine haven't moved, at least from what I can tell, it is just the grouping that is messed up with additional elements that might have been added or removed to the group. I've never really seen it happen in real-time, it is more that I come back to something I previously grouped and now something else is included half across the map, and if I miss spotting it, then it might have unfortunate consequences as I might delete or move something unintentionally.

Oh OK - I misinterpreted 'halfway across the map' to mean something had moved.

The only other thing I can think of that could mess things up is 'drag selections' in the camera view.  It's very easy to select things in the background without realizing it when clicking around, and stuff could maybe get added to a group, or deleted or anything else.  You can disable this by going to Edit -> Preferences -> Camera -> Enable drag selections.  I have it turned off most of the time, and only enable when I need to drag vertices in the camera view.

[mr.Doom]

3 hours ago, Frost_Salamander said:

Oh OK - I misinterpreted 'halfway across the map' to mean something had moved.

The only other thing I can think of that could mess things up is 'drag selections' in the camera view.  It's very easy to select things in the background without realizing it when clicking around, and stuff could maybe get added to a group, or deleted or anything else.  You can disable this by going to Edit -> Preferences -> Camera -> Enable drag selections.  I have it turned off most of the time, and only enable when I need to drag vertices in the camera view.

Thanks for the tip, will try that